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Hehe. I'm obsessed with this music as well......

I have an old early 90s sony turtable that I can listen to my vinyls on, however I'm scared that the needle is too old and will damage my records. One Dj on here uses an old 80s turntable, and he's playing in the loveparade; I guess he changes the needle on it. Someone above said that you have to change your needles every 6 months with frequent use. This turntable hasn't been used much, but it is old. The needle has never been changed I don't think. I might just buy 1 technics turntable to listen to my records for now. All my friends who Dj have technics, and I don't want to look silly if I start to DJ.

I have a question about these technics tables though. Are they all the same feature wise? The only difference is aesthetics when it comes to different model numbers right??


How is the resale value? Very good right?

Oh hey, another question:
Can I buy any cartidge/needle for the old sony turntable?? I'm not really sure, and I don't want to break the thing because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

Thanks,
David

p.s. I've listened to vinyl vs. cd, and to my ear the vinyl sounds better/more crisp. It could be my imagination though.

Should I start stocking up on vinyls now, eventhough I dont have any turntables yet??

Welcome to these forums and to DJ'ing, Vlad, it's nice to meet one's namesake.

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Originally posted by Vlad Should I start stocking up on vinyls now, eventhough I dont have any turntables yet??

I advise against this. If you start buying vinyl now, you will get addicted (everyone does), and then you won't have money to buy turntables.

IMO, I would honestly try getting the equipment first. The thrill of getting vinyl is a lot more intense when you actually have turntables to play it on.

It might be harder to do (more tempting to get vinyl now, and cheaper), but in the long run it is worth it. Plus, if you just buy vinyl, you'll feel bummed out because you can't actually play it, which is the entire point of getting vinyl in the first place.

Think of it this way... would you buy gas before buying a car?

Good luck!

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Originally posted by Alccode Think of it this way... would you buy gas before buying a car? Good luck!

Wow, that made so much sense it made me laugh, such a good analogy

I have another question, Im currently trying to learn to mix on the computer, using a basic program called MixMeister3. Ive made a few mixes, kinda like demos for myself and friends to listen to. They said its good, but to my ear is still hear imperfections-maybe because I know whats where. But the question is, how do you know what songs to mix with that, can any song be mix with any other songs, and how do you know when to start dubbing in?

Trust me, this is only the beginning of questions

My lifes goal isnt to be a DJ, but I love music to the point where I dedicate every ounce of time that I have free to download, listen and mix with whatever resources I have for now.

Ok guys, I know I out-did myself, but these are the things I plan on buying by the end of the year:

2 Numark TT-200 Turntables or TTX-1 Turntables
Pioneer DJM-500 Mixer
JBL N-26 6" 2-Way Speaker 125W Pair
American DJ PSX Scratchable CD Player or Numark CDN90 Dual CD player
Pioneer HDJ-1000 High-End Pro. Heaphones

Roland MC-909 Sampling Groovebox (Maybe in a year or so AFTER I have bought all of the other equipment)

Ok, I know this is WAYYY more than I want to spend, but Im starting to save up now. I have a few hundred in the bank, and over the summer intent to atleast get the 2 turntables. My b-day is in December, so intend to do some shopping than as well, get the mixer, if I dont already have it. My goal is simply to buy quality stuff that will last years because I dont intend on going out and buying new stuff after a year.

When it comes to building a place to put it, my dad owns a cabinet making company. Ill take time out on the weekends and go to his shop and build one for myself.

Anyone have any comments on the stuff I want to buy, maybe you guys can give me alittle advice on these things.

Anyone have any suggestions???

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Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav for all your turntable tech questions and another piece of advise for n00bs "you can always buy new needles, but sometimes you can't buy a new record. always replace your needles when they start to wear." generally, under a decent amount of use (1-2 hours a day almost every day) you'll want to change your stylus about every 5-6 months it's easier to replace the needle than it is to replace that hard to find record

i dont know anything about needles...so a needle degrades over time? and can ruin a record? what more do i need to know about them...
thanks for the help guys.

Orko

I'm currently using Fl4 (advanced fruityloops or something)
After reading up and using it a bit I was pretty amazed what you could do with this program.. I wondered what you guys thought about it and if there is maybe a better sound program I should use...

hey guys i'm gonna start learning how to dj. Most likely just for myself or as you say "bedroom dj." i'm wondering what kind of mixer to get? so far i've read that i need either a 2 or 3 channel mixer, 3 band eq, and headphone cue. now thats all fine and dandy, but what are some good quality mixers at a good price? i'm not sure about price range probably under $200. i don't see the point in getting a really high quality mixer when i'm learning, but i dunno...

so far i've searched a little and the mixers recommended seem to be for people that already have experience and are just looking to upgrade.

so, suggestions are highly recommended.

thanks, merlin

yes

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Originally posted by Vlad Should I start stocking up on vinyls now, eventhough I dont have any turntables yet??

yes u should. i started stocking up my cd's 1 year b4 i brought my numark axis 8's. start now.

Start collecting vinyl now, you just have to pace ypurself. This is what i did and I have a good 25 tracks (over three months)to practice mixing when i finally got my tables.

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Originally posted by MERLIN hey guys i'm gonna start learning how to dj. Most likely just for myself or as you say "bedroom dj." i'm wondering what kind of mixer to get? so far i've read that i need either a 2 or 3 channel mixer, 3 band eq, and headphone cue. now thats all fine and dandy, but what are some good quality mixers at a good price? i'm not sure about price range probably under $200. i don't see the point in getting a really high quality mixer when i'm learning, but i dunno... so far i've searched a little and the mixers recommended seem to be for people that already have experience and are just looking to upgrade. so, suggestions are highly recommended. thanks, merlin

Find a post by DJ Tranz (SP) and pm him. He�ll help you out.

used tables

whats up guys, im not even a noob yet. i was wondering if anybody knew of someone selling a setup. my budget is rather limited, but i realy wanna try and learn how to mix. so if anyone knows of somebody selling some decks and a mixer. or selling anyting for that matter. please let me know. thanks alot.

Phil

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Originally posted by Vlad Ok guys, I know I out-did myself, but these are the things I plan on buying by the end of the year: 2 Numark TT-200 Turntables or TTX-1 Turntables Pioneer DJM-500 Mixer JBL N-26 6" 2-Way Speaker 125W Pair American DJ PSX Scratchable CD Player or Numark CDN90 Dual CD player Pioneer HDJ-1000 High-End Pro. Heaphones Roland MC-909 Sampling Groovebox (Maybe in a year or so AFTER I have bought all of the other equipment) Ok, I know this is WAYYY more than I want to spend, but Im starting to save up now. I have a few hundred in the bank, and over the summer intent to atleast get the 2 turntables. My b-day is in December, so intend to do some shopping than as well, get the mixer, if I dont already have it. My goal is simply to buy quality stuff that will last years because I dont intend on going out and buying new stuff after a year. When it comes to building a place to put it, my dad owns a cabinet making company. Ill take time out on the weekends and go to his shop and build one for myself. Anyone have any comments on the stuff I want to buy, maybe you guys can give me alittle advice on these things. Anyone have any suggestions???

no dude, get technics turntables, 1200mk3. and get sony mdr-v700 headphones. pioneer is a good brand, american dj isn't. vestax and stanton make good mixers as well. i'd go for the numark cd player over the american dj one.

NO NO NO NO NO - DON'T BUY SONY HEADPHONES
unless it's the 7506s. All the other models break without fail.

If you don't believe me, then check the headfones thread.

wow really? i always thought those were the best ones.. a lot of dj's use those though.

Re: used tables

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Originally posted by IspI whats up guys, im not even a noob yet. i was wondering if anybody knew of someone selling a setup. my budget is rather limited, but i realy wanna try and learn how to mix. so if anyone knows of somebody selling some decks and a mixer. or selling anyting for that matter. please let me know. thanks alot. Phil

well im thinking about selling mine, but i dont know if ur gonna buy it bcuz i have cd decks. interested?

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Originally posted by incyde wow really? i always thought those were the best ones.. a lot of dj's use those though.

sometimes djs are paid to use a product
sony is an example of that... they pay the djs to use those headphones

read the headphone thread for more info

thanks shawn, but i think im gonna start with vinyl before i invest too much money. does everyone agree that technics 1200s are the way to go? i can get 1200mk3d's for about $200 a piece brand new, this sounds like a really good deal but i jsut want to get the input of a few veterans, so that i dont get screwed. i also need a mixer, what is a good one to start out with? do i need BPM counters? i heard that BPMs are good to have when you are starting out. I would like to get quality equiptment so that i dont have to buy a "starter" mixer only to try and sell it and buy another one, id rather just get it all now. any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks alot guys!!!

Phil

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Originally posted by IspI thanks shawn, but i think im gonna start with vinyl before i invest too much money. does everyone agree that technics 1200s are the way to go? i can get 1200mk3d's for about $200 a piece brand new, this sounds like a really good deal but i jsut want to get the input of a few veterans, so that i dont get screwed. i also need a mixer, what is a good one to start out with? do i need BPM counters? i heard that BPMs are good to have when you are starting out. I would like to get quality equiptment so that i dont have to buy a "starter" mixer only to try and sell it and buy another one, id rather just get it all now. any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks alot guys!!! Phil

well im not a vinyl dj but i have bpm counters on my cd players, and i use them everytime i beatmatch. well i dont think there are turntables that have bpm counters, so the only thing left is the mixer. if it were me, i wouldnt trust the bpm counters on the mixer bcuz their never that accurate. but if you want a mixer with bpm counter, u should get the american dj mixer, i cant remember wat its called, i think its qmix 2 or something like that. btw, thats the only mixer i know that comes with bpm counters, their might be more but i dont know. so just see watever u can find.

i wouldnt trust any bpm counters and even if u had accurate ones its likely if u play out at a club that the club wont have them so its best just to take the old practice makes perfect method with beatmatching

so Im guessing the numark tt-200s or ttx I was thinking about getting are a bad idea?

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Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav BPM counters are like masturbation you think you're having fun and getting something done but in reality you're just fucking yourself

bmp counters

I read up on the lesson given on http://www.recess.co.uk/ but had a question on pitch control.
"When you line up and start the 130BPM tune at 0 pitch, you'll notice that the bass beats will start to run loose, and very quickly go out of time. So, what you need to do is increase the pitch of the tune with 130BPM's. You have a choice, you can either roughly set the pitch fader to a point on the scale, let the record play, and see if you've gotten anywhere near the increase you needed, or you get out your calculator, and work out what %age you'd have to increase a 130BPM tune to be running at around 135BPM (just under 4% - I just did it)."

Well, its been a while since I took algebra, and I suck at math anyway.
What is the equation he used to get a 4% pitch increase?

Thanks for the help!

4% means that in fact, you do this:
130 BPM X 1.04 = 135.2 BPM

But, the site also says:

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DJ'ing using a calculator will look kinda strange, you'll have to learn to hear it...

there are some cd players that even let you adjust the bpm number up and down instead of percentage... if u dont get the percentage and nva learn, then pick up ones that have a bpm adjuster and buy a mixer with bpm counter

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