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ok well here's a little thing I like to do. If I'm playing a record at +3 pitch, then it's key is going to be a little high, so I make it more bassy with the EQ's. Likewise, if I play the track at -3 pitch then the key will be lower, so I'll put up the high end EQ's.

I have DJM-500 and +12 for BASS seems high.....just my opinion though.

I usually set the

HIGH 1 or 2 lines

MID 0

BASS 2 1/5 lines

For DJM-500.....it's like -20 to +12 or something. I always use the lines.

I always mess around with the TRIM/GAIN though.

It's actually pretty bad practice to play a song through with the eq's not on 0. Tracks are mastered professionally in a studio before they are pressed onto vinyl by people who know what they are doing and know how to make the record sound good on vinyl. All you do when you come along and change the eq is introduce distortion and make the track sound differently to how it was intended by the producer.

Note that here I am talking about when you are actually playing a track, like in the middle of a track. Whilst actually mixing you need to use the eq's, so you can create a smooth transition between the two tracks. Playing a song through at +5 bass isn't big or clever, it just makes the track sound distorted and not the way it is intended. Also, I am not talking about creating effects with the eq's here, like playing with the mids or cutting the bass during a buildup. I just mean while you are letting the track play.

Even when setting up a sound system so that it sounds right in a particular venue, you shouldn't adjust the eq's on the mixer. This is what the eq and crossover in the amp rack are for, or the graphic equaliser/bass/treble controls on the amp. Eq's on the mixer should be set to 0 - adjust the eq on the amp to get the sound right.

There are exceptional circumstances though, like if you have a really bad pressing or a worn out record. I have a second hand copy of Camisra - Let Me Show You that is really worn out, and there is hardly any treble in it at all. Here, you should tweak the eq on the mixer to make the record sound ok, because you're not going to start adjusting the eq in the amp rack just for that one song.

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Originally posted by DJ-Kuza ok well here's a little thing I like to do. If I'm playing a record at +3 pitch, then it's key is going to be a little high, so I make it more bassy with the EQ's. Likewise, if I play the track at -3 pitch then the key will be lower, so I'll put up the high end EQ's.

You should always set the levels according to the track. You can't just always put them at +1, 0, +2.

Oh yeah, if a particular track is too loud/quiet, this is where you should use the gain or trim control. That's what it's there for.

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Originally posted by DJTJ It's actually pretty bad practice to play a song through with the eq's not on 0. Tracks are mastered professionally in a studio before they are pressed onto vinyl by people who know what they are doing and know how to make the record sound good on vinyl. All you do when you come along and change the eq is introduce distortion and make the track sound differently to how it was intended by the producer. Note that here I am talking about when you are actually playing a track, like in the middle of a track. Whilst actually mixing you need to use the eq's, so you can create a smooth transition between the two tracks. Playing a song through at +5 bass isn't big or clever, it just makes the track sound distorted and not the way it is intended. Also, I am not talking about creating effects with the eq's here, like playing with the mids or cutting the bass during a buildup. I just mean while you are letting the track play. Even when setting up a sound system so that it sounds right in a particular venue, you shouldn't adjust the eq's on the mixer. This is what the eq and crossover in the amp rack are for, or the graphic equaliser/bass/treble controls on the amp. Eq's on the mixer should be set to 0 - adjust the eq on the amp to get the sound right. There are exceptional circumstances though, like if you have a really bad pressing or a worn out record. I have a second hand copy of Camisra - Let Me Show You that is really worn out, and there is hardly any treble in it at all. Here, you should tweak the eq on the mixer to make the record sound ok, because you're not going to start adjusting the eq in the amp rack just for that one song.

You should read my post about the key of the track. Some tturntables try to give you a "key Control" button but it's better to use the EQ's like I mentioned 2 times now.

and another thing, while i agree with you DJTJ, that tracks are meant to be heard at 0 eq, not all tracks are created equal.

true, if every song was perfectly mastered, then that would be fine, but some aren't, either because they are poorly mastered, worn out, whatever. for these you have to compensate.

and furthermore, it's all about your personal taste, personally, i like the way it sounds with the bass and treble cranked up a bit, give that CLUB sound if you know what i mean.

this is how i usually have my EQ set up in winamp:


at home, i have a 7 band stereo EQ, and both sides are set up similarly.

theoretically, i should be able to leave my mixer EQ at 0 then, cuz i have my club sound from the EQ already, but i find it sounds even BETTER if i put the bass and treble up a bit on the mixer as well.

of course, i adjust for each song and for each mix, but i find these settings in general work best for me.

above all, your goal is to make it sound GOOD, not "like it was intended" all the while being careful not to clip at any stage.

part of being a good DJ is knowing how to use the eq's while you are playing out. watch any video of tiesto, corsten, PvD, they all use EQ's

Am I doing something radically wrong? Cuz here's what I do.

I have a DJM 300. Gain/trim are usually 1/4 of the way up. LIve track has all eq's totally up. When i'm brining in the incomming track...the all eq's are totally off. and I mix ONLY usuing eq's. I feel this gives me more flexibility and accuracy in my mixing.

well... some would say, you are doing nothing wrong.

but, why would you want all your EQs maxed out? you mean like cranked right as far as they go up? then how would you adjust them if you needed too, all there is to go is down?

ideally, you should have them at 0 or as close too as possible. then you should be able to turn your gain up to about halfway instead of only a quarter up.

technically, as long as it isn't clipping it's ok but the closer you have everything to the middle, the more flexibility you have.

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Originally posted by Special_K you shouldnt have 1 standard that you have your eq's at. Every song is diffrent and therefore every song should be EQ'd diffrently. It just makes sense. Your EQ's are there for a reason, use them. And if you havnt started using EQ's while you are mixing, start.

unless your records are poor pressings you shouldnt NEED to to touch them (unless youre a born fiddler)

i believe the eq on most mixers should be used for creative purposes and not trying to make to tune sound better if you know what i mean.
im your mixer sounds crap unless unless you boost the eq. you probably have a shit mixer...like my old newmark one....shit sound quality

Or you could all ignor me and never learn what the EQ's are really for.

i use the EQs all the time. Even if the vinyl is perfectly pressed, sometimes increasing the mids and/or highs can bring out an extra oomph from the song. That's just me tho.

OK, I see what you guys are saying. But you are all talking about giving tracks "oomph" or Crispier highs and what not. Thats all great. But, I'm talking about EQ SETTINGS FOR MIXING PURPOSES. I set my live eq;s all the way to the right and incomming track all all at zero because it gives me the MOST EQ RANGE TO MIX WIHT. If you guys aren't using EQS to mix, then you are missing out. Whats the fun in keeping eq's at 12 o clock and mixing with the faders, and occasionally adjusting the bass eq's? thats gay. Its soo much fun to have the eq's all the way up...SO when you really want to play with them for effects purposes, you can cut them ALL THE WAY, and SLAM THEm back up again. Just try it. Its fun as hell on DJM EQs

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I set my live eq;s all the way to the right and incomming track all all at zero because it gives me the MOST EQ RANGE TO MIX WIHT.

When you put EQs all the way to the right, your trim/gain is below zero right?

steve

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Originally posted by KoreanDJ When you put EQs all the way to the right, your trim/gain is below zero right? steve

yes. on my DJm 300 they are about 25% up.

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Originally posted by ExcelonGT yes. on my DJm 300 they are about 25% up.

Dude, you have no idea what you are doing. I suggest selling your shit to me, cheap.

0 DB should be your MAX output.

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Originally posted by DJ-Kuza Dude, you have no idea what you are doing. I suggest selling your shit to me, cheap. 0 DB should be your MAX output.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DJ-Kuza
Dude, you have no idea what you are doing. I suggest selling your shit to me, cheap.

0 DB should be your MAX output. [/QUOT

Listen to me spin sometime you bitch

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Originally posted by Special_K you shouldnt have 1 standard that you have your eq's at. Every song is diffrent and therefore every song should be EQ'd diffrently. It just makes sense. Your EQ's are there for a reason, use them. And if you havnt started using EQ's while you are mixing, start.

Dito.....

Altough, the standard is ZERO. With a clean "audiophile" grade system "0" sounds best for listening, the track is Mastered that way. I find with my system and GOOD records very little adjusting is needed, but still required. Shitty records require major tweaking though. I tried MP3's for fun and they sound horrible.

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Originally posted by ExcelonGT OK, I see what you guys are saying. But you are all talking about giving tracks "oomph" or Crispier highs and what not. Thats all great. But, I'm talking about EQ SETTINGS FOR MIXING PURPOSES. I set my live eq;s and incomming track all all at zero because it gives me the MOST EQ RANGE TO MIX WIHT. If you guys aren't using EQS to mix, then you are missing out. Whats the fun in keeping eq's at 12 o clock and mixing with the faders, and occasionally adjusting the bass eq's? thats gay. Its soo much fun to have the eq's all the way up...SO when you really want to play with them for effects purposes, you can cut them ALL THE WAY, and SLAM THEm back up again. Just try it. Its fun as hell on DJM EQs

Dude I dunno what you talking about. I constantly use the EQ to mix (I didn't think there was another way??) but I don't understand "all the way to the right"?? +6dB on my board whats yours???

How many pairs of speakers have you been through??? OR you don't have a decent amp.

Maxing out your EQ ahahahahahahahahahahahha

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Originally posted by P`zazz Inter-M DM-602 --> check it out @ www.inter-m.com got it back in the days when my knowledge of dj technology was limited so I blew some hard cash on it thinking it was good

That Mixer ROCKS.... Where is it made. That EQ would be a blasting trip to use, + or - 12 dB not awesome, but i've managed on worse.

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Originally posted by The Greener That Mixer ROCKS.... Where is it made. That EQ would be a blasting trip to use, + or - 12 dB not awesome, but i've managed on worse.

well the eq affects only the master output and not each chan separately and it has no gain/trim, transitions sound crap even if beatmatching is perfect

To put an end to this...

#1 if you are NOT constantly at ALL times adjusting and aware always of your Eq's every position? - you don't know how to mix!!

#2 if you use a crossfader for mixing? - you definatly!! don't know how to mix

#3 if you take any advice on mixing from others, copy peoples style and/or Image?? - you are a POSER and in the Music Bizz a POSER is the biggest insult you can get.

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Originally posted by P`zazz well the eq affects only the master output and not each chan separately and it has no gain/trim, transitions sound crap even if beatmatching is perfect

' Oh really? I tought the EQ was for separate input & output channels? Leme geuss
Right Chan. Left Chan. have diff eq's??

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