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There is a Uni in Newcastle au, heaps of ppl I know went there.

Newcastle au is over 2 hours from Sydney.

Newcastle au looks like a nice city. I can't find any good pictures of it on google though.

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Originally posted by Chookie There is a Uni in Newcastle au, heaps of ppl I know went there. Newcastle au is over 2 hours from Sydney.

last years uni games were in newcastle werent they?
apparenlty it went off
couldnt afford to go up though

yeah i know quite a few ppl at newcastle uni as well...

hahaha...hooliganism...you brits are tame in comparison to us greeks

id sure youd fear for your life if u came over

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Originally posted by evil_bastard The BBC also did a series on hooliganism last year with undercover cameramen. A lot of their info is on here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/st...2002/hooligans/

I remember watching this doco on telly over here and it really showed how wily and clever these 'hooligans' were (as clever as thugs could be i guess). They had these intricate networks from different regions and they were solely intent on causing havoc.

It was funny how it followed the 'godfather' hooligan who seemingly ran the syndicate, detailing all the nasty shit he was gonna do. And then they covered his local soccer match that he played in and he was an absolute hack, he looked like Paul Gascoigne (as he is now) but add another 20kgs.

The undercover reporter even had to get a Chelsea FC tatoo just to prove his worth. That's a good indication of how serious the bbc took this piece of work. Very interesting doco, i highly recommend it to those who haven't seen it.

Also Newcastle is home of Mr. Natalie Imbruglia himself, Daniel Johns and Silverchair.

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Originally posted by stipsy hahaha...hooliganism...you brits are tame in comparison to us greeks id sure youd fear for your life if u came over

There are many places I'd fear for my life in an England strip, but that still doesn't mean I wouldn't wear it.

I don't mean to glorify hooliganism in any way (that's real hooliganism, I mean), but a lot of British hooligans regard fans who use knives/flares etc as cowards. It's all supposed to be about having a big ruck and being up for a fight. In their eyes, a "good" hooligan is one who stays with the fight. As for calling the British hooligans 'tame', the British hooligans are amongst the most feared hooligans in the world amongst police forces. It is not what they do but what they cause - English fans carry around a notoriety which other nations like to challenge, and pretty much everywhere we go there is trouble. Britain started the trend, but countries like Argentina have taken it way too far now to the point where they had to suspend their season because there was just anarchy regarding football. Italy and Eastern Europe have had growing problems too. Have you any idea how many English people were rejected entry to Korea/Japan in the summer of 2002? An awful lot. And the reasons were often trivial, such as being with someone who had a minor conviction ten years ago. The Japanese were worried about the English, everybody is, and as I say it is not always the English that cause the trouble, but if English fans are there, trouble is never far away.

I don't doubt the Greeks have got some right tossers, it seems we all have these days, but if you want to try and boast you have the most tossers I'm not stopping you. I'll openly admit England has problems but your language ("tame") suggests murdering people in the name of football is reasonable practice. Please correct me if I've jumped to the wrong conclusion, but that's the impression I got. I'd prefer to think that you were just enjoying a bit of friendly rivalry (?).

what im trying to say is...

if the toon army drew someone like panathinaikos in a CL or uefa match..and you boys rocked up to leoforos alexandras stadium and tried to act like king dicks youd be going home with a fork wedged up your arse!!!

in athens you have to be careful with wearing club tops in certain areas...its like asking to be belted...i know its a sad state of affairs..but unfortunately their passion for soccer goes to far...

p.s hope robert leaves yous

GO TOFFEES

I think you may be underestimating the problem elsewhere stipsy. There are many areas where that happens, throughout England and Europe, and city pubs won't let you in at night because it's a major cause of trouble. Trains will be held up by police if there is an obvious football fan presence.

But the difference with countries like Greece and Turkey, and the reason they are often frowned on as cowardly by Western European hooligans, is that they always come to the fight with weapons. What English hooligans generally want is a lot of chaos, destruction, and a big fight. But a big fight doesn't work if one side has weapons and the other doesn't. The English hooligans have an attitude of "let's keep this to fists, show what you're made of" kind of approach and have espescially grown to loathe the Istanbul supporters.

English fans travel by their thousands all over the world, and are known for their habit of getting drunk before the game begins (this includes non-hooligans). There aren't many fans that travel as much as the English, if any. Every away game is a sell-out, and many more fans often come hoping to buy home tickets in the street. I went to Barcelona in December and there were thousands of us, you could see black and white strips everywhere. Yet we've played 4 games at our home ground in Newcastle (hosting an Italian side, a Dutch side, a Ukranian side, and another Italian side) and thus far in the Champions League and I've seen no foreign fans in Newcastle. Where are they hiding? A couple of people say they've seen one or two roaming around the city centre but that's about it. It's nothing like the mini-invasion of English fans in strips you see abroad. Of course English fans would get involved in trouble in Athens, and believe me the same would happen in England if the Panathinaikos supporters actually bothered to come here in strips in their thousands.

I know Athens can be a very dodgy place, my brother went there and I don't deny Panathinaikos have got some serious hooligans, but don't underestimate the problems elsewhere, because if you wandered into Milwall or Chelsea in any Greek strip you'd get an unpleasant surprise. As I said earlier, England doesn't have the most violent hools in the world (knives, guns etc) but they are an incredible magnet for trouble because of their reputation.

TOON ARMY!!

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Originally posted by webmeister Quite similar to Newcastle, Australia, but replace "season tickets for Newcastle Fottball Club" with "pot and longnecks of VB" and you've pretty much got the picture

Well done, and ur close to the truth as well.

maybe youll remember our 3000 supporters at old trafford 2 years ago who were making way more noise than man u supporters....and they were all in their panathinaikos gear

Man Utd is a massive game for any European side, and to give you an idea, Barcelona police estimated there were 4,000 Newcastle fans there when we played about a month ago. Panathinaikos is probably a bigger club for Greece than Newcastle is for England.

My point is not only that many other supporters tend not to travel in so many numbers, but that their presence is never obvious until maybe matchday, and even then they usually keep a low profile until they're actually at the ground. I don't blame them, if you walked the streets of any British city insulting the local fans people would go mental because it is like the national religion. If Panathinaikos ever come to the Toon I wouldn't expect to see a Greek 'invasion' where there are just Greek shirts in every street of Newcastle city centre and all I can hear for a week is greeks chanting and drinking throughout the city. I've never seen that here.

I think the last time England and Greece met in 2001 about 500 English hooligans were banned from travelling to Athens. I imagine English and Greek fans would probably be a pretty violent situation if it was in a 'neutral' territory, but using weapons tends to give nations a bad reputation. Look at Turkey, it seems every football fan in Europe wants a piece of them.

haha i was just watchin the world game on sbs and they were talkin about crowd violence. the teams involved were sydney olympic and your australian favourite, newcastle united. it was all started by the olympic though, who IMO are a bunch of fagots and i dont even follow australian soccer. one newcastle united supporter was hospitalised after a suspected broken jaw...a poor effort for a brawl

GATE 7 boys vs. toon army, would be good to watch

gate 7 boys?

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Originally posted by OLi_A gate 7 boys?

Yes the Olympiakos equilavent of the toon army.

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Originally posted by OLi_A haha i was just watchin the world game on sbs and they were talkin about crowd violence. the teams involved were sydney olympic and your australian favourite, newcastle united. it was all started by the olympic though, who IMO are a bunch of fagots and i dont even follow australian soccer. one newcastle united supporter was hospitalised after a suspected broken jaw...a poor effort for a brawl

errr correction sydney united vs ........

So what is the crowd control like in Australian football (soccer)?

Is it really lax like Eastern Europe where you can take flares/fireworks etc into the ground, or have they banned that (like England)?

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Originally posted by evil_bastard So what is the crowd control like in Australian football (soccer)? Is it really lax like Eastern Europe where you can take flares/fireworks etc into the ground, or have they banned that (like England)?

Flares/fireworks are prob not allowed but somehow the fans get away with it, and the clubs end up getting fined.

As previously stated in this thread, the football authorities havent even heard of crowd segregation in stadiums, Which I think should be done, not only does it prevents violence, but ot creates a better atmosphere and moderated tension.

When somebody gets killed you'll be surprised how suddenly eager they become to segregate crowds! Most countries are the same though, they will ignore a problem until it is too late, the public get ouraged, then they step up security tenfold to everyone's inconvenience.

Do people get arrested for taking flares in or do enough people do it that they turn a blind eye?

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Originally posted by Euphorica@AUS Hey nigga Newcastle sux0rs in australia that is This is the team to follow South Melbourne Soccer Club THis is the team to suppport in AUstralia Ohh and we are third after a 1-0 win today agains Northern Spirit.

Too right, South Melbourne is da shiznit

"HELLAS HELLAS HELLAS"

South Melbourne were beaten by Perth Glory yesterday, Newcastle can only fight for third place really but you guys have a game in hand

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Originally posted by evil_bastard South Melbourne were beaten by Perth Glory yesterday, Newcastle can only fight for third place really but you guys have a game in hand

i know!!
i saw the highlights (lowlights?) on tv, when i was on the phone hehe
all of a sudden i just start yellign "shit! fuck!! nooooo!!"

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