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Posted by joeh on Jan-22-2003 00:54:

Re: Re: Re: yay americans!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
it wouldn't be proper to have some national pride, right you jolly ole chap? Those bloody American bastards are at it again. God save the queen!!!


Sorry, are on crack?


Posted by The Master on Jan-22-2003 01:01:

[prediction] THIS THREAD WILL BE CLOSED THANKS TO THE (HIGHLY UNUSUAL) FLAMING OF SOME UKTAs [/prediction]


Posted by Chuck Norris on Jan-22-2003 01:02:

America helping Afgahnistan? Pfft, closest thing i've seen from America helping Afgahnistan is Rambo 3.

quote:
Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer
so is having your head stuck up your own arse.


Lmao...


Posted by joeh on Jan-22-2003 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by The Master
[prediction] THIS THREAD WILL BE CLOSED THANKS TO THE (HIGHLY UNUSUAL) FLAMING OF SOME UKTAs [/prediction]


Dont use all capitals, dear.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Jan-22-2003 01:07:

When you post stuff like this your likely to get flamed, for an instance you don't see me fucking posting the words for nationalist songs ranting on about stuff, and if I do which never will happen I'll expect to see flames.


Posted by Ian on Jan-22-2003 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by xxTRANCEBOYxx
America helping Afgahnistan? Pfft, closest thing i've seen from America helping Afgahnistan is Rambo 3.



Lmao...

or this


and i dont find the war there funny, tho this makes it less harsh


Posted by Chuck Norris on Jan-22-2003 01:14:

Haha, good call Ian


Posted by TuanAnh213 on Jan-22-2003 01:46:

way to go kirbtastic...thanks for posting that to improve out already oh-so-great reputation as americans






Posted by Lira on Jan-22-2003 01:51:

Rofl at ferrycorstenfan's picture
quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
I aim to please

It's because I liked the way you put it


Posted by plastikE on Jan-22-2003 03:17:

quote:
Originally posted by JM
i totally agree with you my PAC10 friend!!!!

(or is it now PAC 12) shit.



>JM<


haha, its Pac10

U of A just got back to #1 in the nation woooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!


Posted by kirbtastic on Jan-22-2003 04:51:

flame away fellas..the truth is we are the number 1 world power these days because we protect our interests...every world power has done it since the beginning of civilazation...Britain did it before us, but instead of oil, u did it for coal and spices.

who ever said we call native americans "indians"...it was actually cristopher columbus that started calling them that because he though he landed in the west indies. he was a european. u also have to realize that this country was colonized by europeans..they were screwing the native americans way before america was even a country, the french and indian war, which was a result of the seven years war. then the spanish came here and wiped out entire civilizations of natives from north and south america. that was done for gold and land. even our name was created from a europen explorer Amerigo Vespucci.

if u want to talk about WWII..we didnt come into the war until we were attacked. pearl habor was attacked unprovoked..and yes many civilians were killed in that attack. and if u really want to bitch about destroying countries..look what russia did to eastern europe after WWII.

so all the people who think we are such a terrible country..look at your own countries history..i think youll find that there isnt much of a difference...the only thing is, we are on top now. this is a capitalistic world we live in, like it or not. if you disagree with capitalism, sell your house and move to some third world country to live in some grass hut and raise your own food...but when a famine or a drought hits and you cant feed yourself or your family, make sure you dont accept any american aid, so u can take your stand against capitalism and you can watch you and your whole family starve to death.


Posted by kirbtastic on Jan-22-2003 05:05:

1 more thing as far as that statement of being fat and lazy..how stereotypical can you be..the average american work week is 40 hours..my work week varies between 60 and 80 hours. i dont have off on weekends..i havent taken a vacation in 2 years.

i know that is more than most european countries


Posted by J.L. on Jan-22-2003 05:50:

just remember... it was canadians that burned down the white house...


Posted by Crazy Serb on Jan-22-2003 06:41:

quote:
Originally posted by ferrycorstenfan



HAHAHHAA!
That's so funny, I can actually see it happening...

quote:
Originally posted by kirbtastic
1 more thing as far as that statement of being fat and lazy..how stereotypical can you be..the average american work week is 40 hours..my work week varies between 60 and 80 hours. i dont have off on weekends..i havent taken a vacation in 2 years.

i know that is more than most european countries


Bro, that's gotta suck big time... I mean, you might love it (for whatever the reason), but working 60-80 hours a week?! What's the point?! Does a word "LIFE" exist in your dictionary at all? See, that's the reason why Europe will always be ahead of the North America, when it comes to social life... Europeans accomplish more by working less, and still have time to enjoy their life.


Posted by KoreanDJ on Jan-22-2003 07:09:

When they try to kill me, i guess it's time to bust out my wakuzashi and shuriken!


Stevek


Posted by quddha on Jan-22-2003 07:23:

quote:
Originally posted by kirbtastic
1 more thing as far as that statement of being fat and lazy..how stereotypical can you be..the average american work week is 40 hours..my work week varies between 60 and 80 hours. i dont have off on weekends..i havent taken a vacation in 2 years.

i know that is more than most european countries


well, its true that usa has the highest rate of obesity.

as for tooting ur own horn, well I don't really care, but many others around the world do, and they despise it. Its like the rich brat saying "oh, they're just jealous of my money and greatness" when its really the attitude that they dont' like.


Posted by kirbtastic on Jan-22-2003 08:01:

quote:
Originally posted by quddha
well, its true that usa has the highest rate of obesity.

as for tooting ur own horn, well I don't really care, but many others around the world do, and they despise it. Its like the rich brat saying "oh, they're just jealous of my money and greatness" when its really the attitude that they dont' like.


i wasnt saying anything about how much money i have, i dont know where u got that idea from. i was saying that the rest of the world has this stereotypical view of us that we are all fat and lazy when in fact our work week is longer and we get less vacation time than most european countries.

i agree with you that a lot of americans are over weight and it is disgusting..especially when im stuck next to a 300 pound man on the bus ride into new york. this country thrives on fast food and that shit makes you fat. when u get 15 to 30 minutes for a lunch break its just easier i guess. i know in italy my relatives stop working at 1 and go home to have a nice healthy lunch. i myself cant stand fast food and my kids wont eat that crap either.

it just aggrevates me that in a lot of these forums we have all these people that bash america and have no personal experience of what its like to live here or has ever met an american. we get judged from our TV shows, our media and our music or what someone has told them to believe about us. i never been to england, i would never assume that they all act like benny hill or mr. bean. i saw on the BBC once where a group of people from Scotland set fire to a bus of the opposing soccer teams(or football)fans. Should i think taht everyone from Scotland is so crazy that that they would try to murder innocent fans over the outcome of a game. its just not fair to judge the whole country because of the behavior of some.


Posted by Ste on Jan-22-2003 09:40:

quote:
Originally posted by The Master
[prediction] THIS THREAD WILL BE CLOSED THANKS TO THE (HIGHLY UNUSUAL) FLAMING OF SOME UKTAs [/prediction]


actually it was destined for closer right from the ctrl-v of the first post


Posted by Martin McG on Jan-22-2003 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by kirbtastic
i saw on the BBC once where a group of people from Scotland set fire to a bus of the opposing soccer teams(or football)fans. Should i think taht everyone from Scotland is so crazy that that they would try to murder innocent fans over the outcome of a game.


ROFL! i just found that stereotypical view funny


but seriously in the past 10 years there have been lots of murders here especially after celtic - rangers games! there are usually assualts every weekend due to football colours being seen by opposing supporters!


Posted by Furel on Jan-22-2003 12:07:

quote:
Originally posted by kirbtastic
so all the people who think we are such a terrible country..look at your own countries history..i think youll find that there isnt much of a difference...the only thing is, we are on top now. this is a capitalistic world we live in, like it or not. if you disagree with capitalism, sell your house and move to some third world country to live in some grass hut and raise your own food...but when a famine or a drought hits and you cant feed yourself or your family, make sure you dont accept any american aid, so u can take your stand against capitalism and you can watch you and your whole family starve to death.


You see, what you said here in this post, I think is really wrong... There are some people living in "grass huts" and raising their own food down here, and they didn't choose to. The USA are not trying to aid them. If they had chosen to go against captalism like you said, then I'd agree with you. And I've read once that the amount of money the USA invests in warfare, army etc anually, if used in Africa to produce food, famine there would be over. Maybe you'll say "but we have to protect our country". Thats right, but the reason you have to defend yourselves is because you guys are always on war, making new enemies everyday. We barely have an army cause we think killing people is not the best way to defend our interests... I think that you (USA) are digging your own hole, but you dont realize it. We all now that youre on top now, but you people act like those arrogant, rich and usually powerfull persons that goes against all things and everyone, making things their ways just to defend what's their... No one likes these kind of person, except themselves....

I'm not against USA, actually, I have many friends there, I have been there and I enjoyed it, but sometimes you guys act bad... My country sux in many ways too, the difference is we admit it!


Posted by joeh on Jan-22-2003 13:32:

quote:

flame away fellas..the truth is we are the number 1 world power these days because we protect our interests...every world power has done it since the beginning of civilazation...Britain did it before us, but instead of oil, u did it for coal and spices.


The point is, your doing it now, in this modern age - not 100 or 200 years ago.

quote:

who ever said we call native americans "indians"...it was actually cristopher columbus that started calling them that because he though he landed in the west indies. he was a european.

But again, you still call them indians, whilst the rest of the world calls them 'native americans', you call them indians.

quote:

u also have to realize that this country was colonized by europeans..they were screwing the native americans way before america was even a country, the french and indian war, which was a result of the seven years war. then the spanish came here and wiped out entire civilizations of natives from north and south america. that was done for gold and land. even our name was created from a europen explorer Amerigo Vespucci.

Do you seriously belive that all the people who colonised America, the europeans, then left to go back home and a peaceful lot came along to start america???? It may well have been your ancestors who came along and did all that, then stayed to start america.

quote:

if u want to talk about WWII..we didnt come into the war until we were attacked. pearl habor was attacked unprovoked..and yes many civilians were killed in that attack.

You said that hitler killed Americans, and Hitler wasn't in charge of the Japanese military in world war one, did you even do history at school?

quote:

and if u really want to bitch about destroying countries..look what russia did to eastern europe after WWII.

Is this some magical 'comeback'??? I'm not even russian so I�m not sure if this is supposed to offend me?

quote:

so all the people who think we are such a terrible country..look at your own countries history..i think youll find that there isnt much of a difference...the only thing is, we are on top now.

again, the point is, mate, that you are still at it in these modern times - when most other countries saw the error of their way 100 years ago.

quote:
this is a capitalistic world we live in, like it or not. if you disagree with capitalism, sell your house and move to some third world country to live in some grass hut and raise your own food...but when a famine or a drought hits and you cant feed yourself or your family, make sure you dont accept any american aid, so u can take your stand against capitalism and you can watch you and your whole family starve to death.

Never mind that you cause these countries to be poor in the first place?? - how?? Well if these countries start to export any products that america makes - you put quotas on them - destroying their export business - making them poor etc.

Kirbtastic, you are constantly trying to start up flame wars, you are constantly wrong, so why don�t you just stop??


Posted by joeh on Jan-22-2003 13:52:

quote:

i wasnt saying anything about how much money i have, i dont know where u got that idea from. i was saying that the rest of the world has this stereotypical view of us that we are all fat and lazy when in fact our work week is longer and we get less vacation time than most european countries.

You have the highest obesity in the world, mate.

quote:
i agree with you that a lot of americans are over weight and it is disgusting..especially when im stuck next to a 300 pound man on the bus ride into new york. this country thrives on fast food and that shit makes you fat. when u get 15 to 30 minutes for a lunch break its just easier i guess.

Once i bought a pair of XL (my size) trousers in america, and they were seriously at least 20 inches too big at my waist - this prooves something, not sure what though.

quote:

i know in italy my relatives stop working at 1 and go home to have a nice healthy lunch. i myself cant stand fast food and my kids wont eat that crap either.[/QUOTE
you are obviously one of the few then.

[QUOTE]it just aggrevates me that in a lot of these forums we have all these people that bash america and have no personal experience of what its like to live here or has ever met an american.

I, myself have been to america (read above), and i have met plenty of americans both there and over here.

quote:
we get judged from our TV shows, our media and our music or what someone has told them to believe about us.

Your tv shows are crap, your media is heavily biased, etc, etc.

quote:
i never been to england, i would never assume that they all act like benny hill or mr. bean.

Never met Coup, have you

quote:

i saw on the BBC once where a group of people from Scotland set fire to a bus of the opposing soccer teams(or football)fans.

10 scottish people set fire to a bus - the american goverment kill millions a year through sanctions/trade quotas etc. Scotland is obviously worse than america.

quote:
Should i think taht everyone from Scotland is so crazy that that they would try to murder innocent fans over the outcome of a game. its just not fair to judge the whole country because of the behavior of some.

As above, The behaviour of some scottish fans - the behaviour of the american government/army..


Posted by XxremedyxX on Jan-22-2003 15:35:

Re: Re: yay americans!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Furel
Ok, now we all know that the USA didn't help Afghanistan 20 years ago just because they are OH SO NICE... We all know they were using Afhganistan soldiers as pawns to fight back agains the Soviets... I mean, if it were UK or any other allied country, I REAAALLY doubt they would help the Afghan people. My point is, the Americans (USA) do help other countries, but only when it has something to do with their interess...


No shit, i believe they call it good strategy. Every country is going to do something that benefits itself.


Posted by UWM on Jan-22-2003 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Furel
but sometimes you guys act bad... My country sux in many ways too, the difference is we admit it!


Yes, I'm sure all Brazilians run around going on about how badly their country sucks.

Kirbtastic, don't ever try to say anything pro-United States here, unfortunately you will just end up getting flamed to no end. No matter how much you try to defend yourself, or how many valid points you make, it just doesn't fly.


Posted by Furel on Jan-22-2003 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by uwmadtrance
Yes, I'm sure all Brazilians run around going on about how badly their country sucks.


Man, I dont go around saying: BRAZIL SUCKS Y'ALL! Cause it is not like that... The thing is, when someone say or asks me like: is there corruption etc, I dont answer: hmm... we won the world cup! I say, yes there is... You guys just dont... Many people here have said true things about your foreing policy that you just refuse to admit it, instead, you say something diferent... go trhu the posts and youll see what im talking about... Actually, just read my post and what you wrote about it... what was your point anyway?


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