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Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jan-30-2003 18:56:

If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-30-2003 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land?


Ah, I asked that once too (can't remember where though).

And the answer I got was:
The cat stops just before it hits the ground and starts to spin around with ever increasing speed until it becomes too much and the cat explodes all over the place.


Posted by XxremedyxX on Jan-30-2003 19:03:

oh yea well my friend can still clap with one hand


Posted by TranceGiant on Jan-30-2003 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Ah, I asked that once too (can't remember where though).

And the answer I got was:
The cat stops just before it hits the ground and starts to spin around with ever increasing speed until it becomes too much and the cat explodes all over the place.



i rather think this would lead to the implosion of the enitre universe


Posted by Arbiter on Jan-30-2003 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land?


The cat will land on its feet, but as it does so, the twine tying the buttered toast to its back will snap, and the toast will fall of, landing butterside up.


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Jan-30-2003 22:46:

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i rather think this would lead to the implosion of the enitre universe


I had a debate with my friend just a few days ago about the very same thing and we also came to the same conclusion.


Posted by kirbtastic on Jan-30-2003 22:54:

whos got a cat and some buttered toast..lets try this one out


Posted by sherman on Jan-31-2003 02:50:

Dancing Dude

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
after readin it 8 times i still dont get it. their time- position, our time-position, why's that relevant? There are two oranges and a line connecting them. Orange A sees orange B like orange B sees orange A. A 2 billion year lag is a 2 billion year lag, so if we see them with delay x, why's their delay 2x ? Why does it add up?


what i got from it is that he meant that when we look at them they are 2 billion years behind us, and then they look back from that time (2 billion years behind us) so when they are looking back they are already that far behind us, and then the 2 billion year lag is added to that...and you get the 4 billion....but as far as i know if they were looking at us at the same time as them it would be the same time lag for both of us...if i'm wrong someone please correct me


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jan-31-2003 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by sherman
what i got from it is that he meant that when we look at them they are 2 billion years behind us, and then they look back from that time (2 billion years behind us) so when they are looking back they are already that far behind us, and then the 2 billion year lag is added to that...and you get the 4 billion....but as far as i know if they were looking at us at the same time as them it would be the same time lag for both of us...if i'm wrong someone please correct me


that is correct


Posted by Renegade on Jan-31-2003 06:09:

No, no, trust me here.

You look at a planet 2 billion LY away, you are seeing the planet as it was 2 billion years ago, right? Thus, assume you could see aliens on the planet. They too would be 2 billion years old. Now, what I'm trying to say is that if they (being two billion years old) were to look at us (being 2 billion light years away) they would see our planet as it was 4 billion years ago (as they are two billion years old already, then you add the 2 billion years light lag). Do you all get me? I can see this conversation going on for days, just quietly.

quote:
okay, i confess myself defeated... just PM me with your mail adress and i shall send it right away!


It's [email protected] .

Quite a cool address if I don't say so myself.


Posted by drizzt81 on Jan-31-2003 08:30:

quote:
Originally posted by kirbtastic
for the US east coasters:
why do we drive on the park way and park on the drive way.


because of the freaking speed limit.. at the speeds you are allowed to go on PARK ways, you may as well park and walk...

sorry. digruntled german driver here...


Posted by drizzt81 on Jan-31-2003 08:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land?


it will float, of course.. just about when it would normally hit the ground, it will stop and spinn really fast, until the mechanism, by which you have fastened the toast to the cat, breaks away due to it not being able to provide the centripedal force needed for such fast rotation.

Then, the car will land on its feet _AND_ the toast on the buttered side...


that is ooo simple *jeeS*


Posted by Prototrance on Jan-31-2003 12:52:

Right I'm gonna clear up this light year thing. A light year is the distance you would travel in one normal earth year if you were travelling at the speed of light.
Therefore, yes you are seeing an object as it was it was 2 billion years ago if it is 2 billion light years away. But a light year is essentially a measure of distance not time.


Posted by Prototrance on Jan-31-2003 12:55:

Got a good question that has always mashed my head up.

If you were to go back in time and punch one of your mates in the head, would the current version of your mate suddenly have the memory of that event occurring spring into his/her head????
This is just one scenario that you could try within quantum experiments.

what do you think???


Posted by TranceGiant on Jan-31-2003 13:04:

I remember having a similiar discussion once in this forum..I dont remember how but i kinda found a good explanation as to why time travelling (BACK in time) isn't possible.
i think it was like.... When you decide to travel back to point X and time passes you'll eventually be back in present, having already been to point X, so the moment you juimo into a time machine ull realize uve already been there..erm..something like that


Posted by Fundamental on Jan-31-2003 13:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
The cat will land on its feet, but as it does so, the twine tying the buttered toast to its back will snap, and the toast will fall of, landing butterside up.


Damn good answer!!!

OK, here's one...

If you breathe in cold weather you can see your breath. What happens if you fart in cold weather? Do the same rules apply?

And if not, WHY NOT?


Posted by Prototrance on Jan-31-2003 13:12:

whoa Trance giant that mashed me head up more!!!
But if you travel back to point x, when you arrive at point x you will be moving with the normal flow of time AT point x. So theoreticaly you could not catch up to the present you left any quicker than normal. And when you did whatever you did in the past would still affect the future (the present you left)

So if you went back 10 minutes it would take you ten minutes to reach the point you left. In that time you do the punching in the face thing I was on about and see the result.

BUT.............
When you arrive back in the present you left will it be the same, because you changed something????


Posted by TranceGiant on Jan-31-2003 13:20:

I guess the moment u DECIDE to go back 10 minutes and punch your mate he'll already be punched, so u actually wont have to travel... cause when u enter the time machine, go back, punch him, ull be eventually back to the point of "present" with your wanting to go back and punch, but uve alreadyx punched him...it enver stops


Posted by kirbtastic on Jan-31-2003 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Prototrance
Right I'm gonna clear up this light year thing. A light year is the distance you would travel in one normal earth year if you were travelling at the speed of light.
Therefore, yes you are seeing an object as it was it was 2 billion years ago if it is 2 billion light years away. But a light year is essentially a measure of distance not time.


no shit mr. wizard. if u look up at a star that is 2 billion light years away means u are looking at the light the left that star 2 billion years ago...your seeing how that star was 2 billion years ago, not how it is at this present time. so in actuality, u are looking into that past


Posted by diffusion on Feb-02-2003 14:48:

The universe is infinite. If the universe is expanding, then what's outside where it hasn't expanded? Large walls? Then what's outside of them?

How deep is the universe?

What's up and down in space?


Posted by U121 on Feb-02-2003 14:52:

quote:
Originally posted by kirbtastic
no shit mr. wizard. if u look up at a star that is 2 billion light years away means u are looking at the light the left that star 2 billion years ago...your seeing how that star was 2 billion years ago, not how it is at this present time. so in actuality, u are looking into that past


heh... actually everything that u see is how it looked in the past... just more or less long back in the past... if for instance u look at your hand from 33 centimeters you see how your hand looked like about 0.00000000000000001 seconds ago... and when u look at the moon u see how it looked like about 14 secs ago... BTW 8 minutes to the sun


Posted by diffusion on Feb-02-2003 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Ah, I asked that once too (can't remember where though).

And the answer I got was:
The cat stops just before it hits the ground and starts to spin around with ever increasing speed until it becomes too much and the cat explodes all over the place.



Makes sense
roflmao


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Feb-02-2003 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by diffusion
The universe is infinite. If the universe is expanding, then what's outside where it hasn't expanded? Large walls? Then what's outside of them?

How deep is the universe?

What's up and down in space?


heh. I love this one. The ultimate paradox. most likely will never no


Posted by whiskers on Feb-02-2003 15:20:

it would take 4 billion years for light to travel from our planet to their planet and then back to our planet again. so if we had to communicate with them, there would be a 4-billion-years lag time between responses.

however, the distance between us is still 2 billion light years. so if we look at them, we'll see their civilization as it was 2 billion years ago, and if they look at us, they'll see us as we were the same 2 billion years ago.

you know how in the beginning of Contact the camera is traveling through the universe and there's the sound of the radio stations? the further it travels, the older the programs become. so if there was a civilization capturing our signals 64 light years away from here, they'd soon hear announcements about germany invading poland... and if they were to instantaneously move 6 years closer to earth, they'd hear announcements about the end of WWII


there might be advanced civilizations on the distant planets we're looking at, the problem is that neither we nor they can see each other because of this light lag.


Posted by whiskers on Feb-02-2003 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
heh. I love this one. The ultimate paradox. most likely will never no



gotta love the MIB1 interpretation


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