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If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land? 
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| Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land? |
oh yea well my friend can still clap with one hand 
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Ah, I asked that once too (can't remember where though). And the answer I got was: The cat stops just before it hits the ground and starts to spin around with ever increasing speed until it becomes too much and the cat explodes all over the place. |
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| Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land? |
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| i rather think this would lead to the implosion of the enitre universe |
whos got a cat and some buttered toast..lets try this one out
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| Originally posted by TranceGiant after readin it 8 times i still dont get it. their time- position, our time-position, why's that relevant? There are two oranges and a line connecting them. Orange A sees orange B like orange B sees orange A. A 2 billion year lag is a 2 billion year lag, so if we see them with delay x, why's their delay 2x ? Why does it add up? |
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| Originally posted by sherman what i got from it is that he meant that when we look at them they are 2 billion years behind us, and then they look back from that time (2 billion years behind us) so when they are looking back they are already that far behind us, and then the 2 billion year lag is added to that...and you get the 4 billion....but as far as i know if they were looking at us at the same time as them it would be the same time lag for both of us...if i'm wrong someone please correct me |
No, no, trust me here.
You look at a planet 2 billion LY away, you are seeing the planet as it was 2 billion years ago, right? Thus, assume you could see aliens on the planet. They too would be 2 billion years old. Now, what I'm trying to say is that if they (being two billion years old) were to look at us (being 2 billion light years away) they would see our planet as it was 4 billion years ago (as they are two billion years old already, then you add the 2 billion years light lag). Do you all get me? I can see this conversation going on for days, just quietly. 
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| okay, i confess myself defeated... just PM me with your mail adress and i shall send it right away! |
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| Originally posted by kirbtastic for the US east coasters: why do we drive on the park way and park on the drive way. |
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| Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land? |
Right I'm gonna clear up this light year thing. A light year is the distance you would travel in one normal earth year if you were travelling at the speed of light.
Therefore, yes you are seeing an object as it was it was 2 billion years ago if it is 2 billion light years away. But a light year is essentially a measure of distance not time.
Got a good question that has always mashed my head up.
If you were to go back in time and punch one of your mates in the head, would the current version of your mate suddenly have the memory of that event occurring spring into his/her head????
This is just one scenario that you could try within quantum experiments.
what do you think???
I remember having a similiar discussion once in this forum..I dont remember how but i kinda found a good explanation as to why time travelling (BACK in time) isn't possible.
i think it was like.... When you decide to travel back to point X and time passes you'll eventually be back in present, having already been to point X, so the moment you juimo into a time machine ull realize uve already been there..erm..something like that
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| Originally posted by Arbiter The cat will land on its feet, but as it does so, the twine tying the buttered toast to its back will snap, and the toast will fall of, landing butterside up. |
whoa Trance giant that mashed me head up more!!!
But if you travel back to point x, when you arrive at point x you will be moving with the normal flow of time AT point x. So theoreticaly you could not catch up to the present you left any quicker than normal. And when you did whatever you did in the past would still affect the future (the present you left)
So if you went back 10 minutes it would take you ten minutes to reach the point you left. In that time you do the punching in the face thing I was on about and see the result.
BUT.............
When you arrive back in the present you left will it be the same, because you changed something????
I guess the moment u DECIDE to go back 10 minutes and punch your mate he'll already be punched, so u actually wont have to travel...
cause when u enter the time machine, go back, punch him, ull be eventually back to the point of "present" with your wanting to go back and punch, but uve alreadyx punched him...it enver stops
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| Originally posted by Prototrance Right I'm gonna clear up this light year thing. A light year is the distance you would travel in one normal earth year if you were travelling at the speed of light. Therefore, yes you are seeing an object as it was it was 2 billion years ago if it is 2 billion light years away. But a light year is essentially a measure of distance not time. |
The universe is infinite. If the universe is expanding, then what's outside where it hasn't expanded? Large walls? Then what's outside of them?
How deep is the universe?
What's up and down in space?
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| Originally posted by kirbtastic no shit mr. wizard. if u look up at a star that is 2 billion light years away means u are looking at the light the left that star 2 billion years ago...your seeing how that star was 2 billion years ago, not how it is at this present time. so in actuality, u are looking into that past |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Ah, I asked that once too (can't remember where though). And the answer I got was: The cat stops just before it hits the ground and starts to spin around with ever increasing speed until it becomes too much and the cat explodes all over the place. |
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| Originally posted by diffusion The universe is infinite. If the universe is expanding, then what's outside where it hasn't expanded? Large walls? Then what's outside of them? How deep is the universe? What's up and down in space? |
it would take 4 billion years for light to travel from our planet to their planet and then back to our planet again. so if we had to communicate with them, there would be a 4-billion-years lag time between responses.
however, the distance between us is still 2 billion light years. so if we look at them, we'll see their civilization as it was 2 billion years ago, and if they look at us, they'll see us as we were the same 2 billion years ago.
you know how in the beginning of Contact the camera is traveling through the universe and there's the sound of the radio stations? the further it travels, the older the programs become. so if there was a civilization capturing our signals 64 light years away from here, they'd soon hear announcements about germany invading poland... and if they were to instantaneously move 6 years closer to earth, they'd hear announcements about the end of WWII
there might be advanced civilizations on the distant planets we're looking at, the problem is that neither we nor they can see each other because of this light lag.
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| Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike heh. I love this one. The ultimate paradox. most likely will never no |
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