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Posted by RWC0412 on Feb-09-2003 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by a-aplz
Armin made it so it has to be good.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???
Or not,,, cuz the sound of goodbye is louder then any drum beat


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Feb-09-2003 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Second best song of the EM for me.... behind the AMAZING Scott Bond vs. Solarstone production.

What a track that is.


Not even second best, Mark Otten - Mushroom Therapy (Lightscape Remix) got top tune from me in that set.


Posted by InfiniteSquare on Feb-09-2003 23:44:

whatever


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Feb-10-2003 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
I think it's funny how Armin uses the PvD sound and makes a fairly good tune (better than anything PvD has produced in the past 2-3 years).


I thought u were one of the few tranceaddicts on here that actually had a clue.. guess i was wrong


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Feb-10-2003 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I thought u were one of the few tranceaddicts on here that actually had a clue.. guess i was wrong


What do you mean? If anyone lacks innovation, it's PvD IMO. The guy has potential, he just doesn't use it.


Posted by stama on Feb-10-2003 00:50:

yeah i aint too fond of PVD either. I have never really been interested in him, save for 'For an Angel' which is a masterpiece!

although i am really interested in hearing this track, i think its something that i will like, as long it isn't too similar to a PVD tune.


Posted by TuanAnh213 on Feb-10-2003 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
What do you mean? If anyone lacks innovation, it's PvD IMO. The guy has potential, he just doesn't use it.



PVD's recent works have been shallow completely lacks depth..i listen to it then i get bored after the next couple listens...


Posted by DJ_Skaya on Feb-10-2003 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
The song does sound alot like a PvD tune. And if it were produced by PvD, instead of Armin, all of the Vandit wh0r3z would be making a billion threads about it, claiming it's the best shit since pre-sliced bread

I think it's funny how Armin uses the PvD sound and makes a fairly good tune (better than anything PvD has produced in the past 2-3 years). It's almost like he did it to say "Look Paul, I can use your own sound and make tracks better than you"


I'm sure that's just it, PvD and Armin hate each other, so Armin's going out trying to copy him....

Saying that a mediocre track is better than "Nothing But You", "Vega", or "Out There" shows what little taste you have

Theres MY oppinion for ya


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Feb-10-2003 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Skaya
I'm sure that's just it, PvD and Armin hate each other, so Armin's going out trying to copy him....

Saying that a mediocre track is better than "Nothing But You", "Vega", or "Out There" shows what little taste you have

Theres MY oppinion for ya


It was a joke, damn...lighten up And yes, this mediocre track is better than those listed because, in my eyes, PvD is nothing more than a mediocre producer. PvD as a DJ ranks up there as one of the best...but he needs to work on his productions. The only track from Paul that has gotten play from me recently was "Animacion", and even then it was only a few times. His songs lack depth and it's that simplicity that draws me away from them so quickly.


Posted by Matt on Feb-10-2003 03:17:

okay. just grabbed the Armin EM, and gave this tune a listen.

And I must say I like it. Sure, there's gonna be people who don't. Same thing with Ligaya.

same goes for this one... sorta. Im listening to it now, and I think its pretty good. It seems like a very experimental project by Armin. but this track is starting to grow on me. Reminds me a lot of some tunes off the Final Fantasy VII OST.

and why is it whenever something with vocals is released, people automatically demand a dub?! you guys need to chill out and remember its just music. If you don't like it, just shut up and move on. If your an elitist proghead, why do you care for Armin anyway?


Posted by Cobalt on Feb-10-2003 03:19:

I think it's decent to say the least, if not one of the better tunes I've heard so far this year. And I thought I had high standards.

As for PvD, he'd best start shocking us with some new material; the steam of his previous productions is beginning to sputter out. But I suspect that we'll start hearing some innovation around the time Nothing But You gets released.


Posted by Psygnosis on Feb-10-2003 05:22:

Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

quote:
Originally posted by Nell
There, i said it. it sounds like he stole a PVD sounding beat, the vocals don't go with the flow of the track, the samples used in it have appeared in his previous productions i.e. dust.wav and the only good thing is the melody in the breakdown, but even that dosetn seem to fit the track. yet another day had so much more production quality to it imo. maybe some remixes will do it justice!?

dont turn this into another ligaya thread, cos its not a good production. you people who start going OMFG etc, what you really mean is that it is a new track and that dosent make it good.

start the flaming, but you know im right



Your a fucking idiot, if you say Armin used the same beat as Dust Wave which is true but how is this stealing or bad, Armin is those few Djs that ever uses the same beat and if you want to talk about PVD then you show me one song that didn't use the same sample beat he always uses..

and what do you mean he stole from PVD, PVD has stolen production ideas and created it to his standards and called it his rework *cough KLEA - Tic Toc *cough

As


Posted by DJDigDug on Feb-10-2003 05:27:

Re: Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
*cough KLEA - Tic Toc *cough


What about extracting vocals??


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Feb-10-2003 05:30:

Re: Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
and what do you mean he stole from PVD, PVD has stolen production ideas and created it to his standards and called it his rework *cough KLEA - Tic Toc *cough


ummmmmmmmm well see, that's not stealing, it's a re-work, he's changed it round a bit to suit his style, all he's claimed credit for is exactly that, hence the reason why it's called a rework


Posted by Psygnosis on Feb-10-2003 05:35:

Im just saying to answer the question, he said Armin stole the beat from PVD, and i'm saying that if that was stealing then the KLEA remix is stealing.

AND the Magik Muzik Remix of KLEA is what PVD stole the idea from....dude i got all the KLEA remixes on vinyl and and none of them use the riff or beat the Magik Muzik uses...so PVD likes it and remixes it...whats that called.


Posted by DJ_Ballistic on Feb-10-2003 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
Im just saying to answer the question, he said Armin stole the beat from PVD, and i'm saying that if that was stealing then the KLEA remix is stealing.

AND the Magik Muzik Remix of KLEA is what PVD stole the idea from....dude i got all the KLEA remixes on vinyl and and none of them use the riff or beat the Magik Muzik uses...so PVD likes it and remixes it...whats that called.



it's called a remix ffs, the bassline is different as well, like a remix of a remix, he hasn't gone and made a new song with the synth/vocals which is basically what he kept, and made a song with em now has he, which is what armin did


Posted by Psygnosis on Feb-10-2003 05:41:

Ok im confused, what is the creator of this thread saying Armin stole.


Posted by stama on Feb-10-2003 05:55:

i dont think they are saying armin 'stole' anything, although he used samples he has already used in his earlier productions, eg. Dust.wav.

I think the whole PVD 'rework' idea is lame, a cop out.


Posted by Mills on Feb-10-2003 10:32:

Thinking back when I first heard the beginning of this song on his E-Mix I thought it was gonna kick into PVD - For An Angel.


Posted by sifntj0r on Feb-10-2003 12:40:

Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

quote:
Originally posted by Nell
There, i said it. it sounds like he stole a PVD sounding beat


thats like cheating on ur wife by sleeping with another man.


Posted by DJ-RED on Feb-10-2003 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
The song does sound alot like a PvD tune. And if it were produced by PvD, instead of Armin, all of the Vandit wh0r3z would be making a billion threads about it, claiming it's the best shit since pre-sliced bread

I think it's funny how Armin uses the PvD sound and makes a fairly good tune (better than anything PvD has produced in the past 2-3 years). It's almost like he did it to say "Look Paul, I can use your own sound and make tracks better than you"


I got to say I totally agree with u... If it was PVD's production every one would have said it was 1337 and that is roxored.


Posted by Asperge on Feb-10-2003 17:35:

Ok the track does sound like his other productions, but whatever, that is his style! In my opinion this track is good, not armin's best not his worst but okay, and I do really like the vocals!

8/10


Posted by Biohazard on Feb-10-2003 17:52:

Amazing track, one of armins best ever!

One of THE tunes of 2003


Posted by Dave_Masters on Feb-10-2003 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Biohazard
Amazing track, one of armins best ever!

One of THE tunes of 2003


get real!!

I have to agree, i think its a poor track and im one of armins biggest fans


Posted by arturob on Feb-10-2003 18:23:

hello,

if there is someone innovative in the industrie is pvd...

I think when he began with his reworking concept back in 2001, that was very smart of him if you would ask me. I also think TPOD was very revolutionary for the Mix-CDs concept as what Paul did, was not seen before

there is an interesting interview about Global you all should read...

...and yes, finally someone agrees with me that some armin`s production are very alike to Paul`s.

xxx
f0x


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