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Originally posted by Ckerr812 Your not getting the point.... Because if you where, you would realize what you just said proves the point I was making. 7 percent of Gross Domestic product of China is = to about 140 percent of Canada's...You have to figure it out with a huge mathematical equation (that's what people go to school for years to figure this out for). Population china over 1 Billion, population of Canada 30 million, you can't compare that. So In conclusion: RJ was right.

nah man you're not getting the point. We have nothing to thank them for. They didn't do anything for us. They did it for themselves. You obviously never paid attention in your economics classes because that's the foundation of capitalism. People (goes for countries too!) do whats best for themselves and as a result everyone is better off. If americans bought billions of dollars in Canadian goods they did it because it gave them some kind of value and other businesses in other countries do and not because they are doing canadians any favour. Pay atention to your lectures next time.. maybe wax your ears or something

Whoever gave the mexico analagy is spot on! Haha never thought of that.

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Originally posted by Ckerr812 Having an opinion on it without education, is just being foolish.

dude if you dont understand what I said your education is definitely in question

lol...No because I realize arguing with you would be about the same as banging my head on the wall for 10 minutes because you have no idea what your talking about.

It's just better to let you live in your little world. Thinking your right..lol

and why don't I have no idea about what I'm talking?? you have a ph.d. in economics that I don't have? just tell me. My point was valid the first time I posted even tho I made a mistake in my numbers.

I want to point out a few things. When free trade first started, Canada lost a HUGE number of manufacturing jobs. We were doing fine really before that. The fact that we have recovered through large exports to the U.S. is largely because of our dollar becoming so devalued over the past 12 years. Now, although it seems good for us to have a low dollar if it increases our exports and tourism to Canada, it actually hurts us in many ways as well. The most important in my opinion is the fact that Canadian property (including companies)is so easily bought by foreign (usually U.S.) investors. Their dollar goes so far here that most of our large companies are foreign owned to as much as allowed by law. That sucks! Another important factor is that our national debt which is signifantly to foreign investors is harder to pay back when our dollar is weaker. Maybe one of the economy masters (pun intended) can tell us about some other bad effects from a low dollar.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek you have a ph.d. in economics that I don't have? just tell me.

heh..you have no idea do you.

We have already proven that canadian economey is dependent on America, I just proved that.

So now you want to argue that the American econemy is dependant on Canada...lol That's just foolish talk. And the funnier thing is...the guy that started this thread now says...Well umm..We don't owe the states anything..after he found out RJ was right in his opinion.

lol..like I said...why would I bother arguing with reasoning like that, it's just a waste of my time you too found out you where wrong and want to cry and name call like babies, so it's not worth my time.

Now your trying to act like you know what your talking about when your talking to someone that knows alot more about this subject then you.

RJ WAS RIGHT! now stop crying about it.

Oh BTW, I do have a Masters degree...thank you for asking.

Ya man we have both rebutted your arguements successfully. Why do you think you know more about this than us? What education do you have that we don't? Come on prof. Ckerr give us an answer!

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Originally posted by Ckerr812 Oh BTW, I do have a Masters degree...thank you for asking.

i think we may have just witnessed an ownage!

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Originally posted by discojoe Ya man we have both rebutted your arguements successfully. Why do you think you know more about this than us? What education do you have that we don't? Come on prof. Ckerr give us an answer!

You don't read to well do you.

Last line in my previous post.

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Originally posted by The Highroller i think we may have just witnessed an ownage!

we've witnessed something.. but id bet money its a lie. He hasnt made a good point yet. He's just screamed at anybody who disagrees with him and calls them uneducated. Id bet serious money its just some kid on his mommies computer trying to cause trouble. Cause that's about how intelligent he sounds.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek obviously you don't know what to say... bye bye lame ass!

ahaha

Ckerr812

you think you know so much, but you are not listening to what people are saying

they arent saying that canada does not get money from the states, they are saying that if worse came to worse, we would not all die of starvation if the usa just disappeared. (as you seem to be putting it)

we have the education and resources to live comfortably.

but naturally 95% of our money comes from down south... because theres so damn much of it there. anyone who opens up a business is going to attempt to market to the states. fuck who wouldn't. Best way to make money is to do business with americans.

but you are missing the point, if the usa did not exist, and we were forced to do business elsewhere, we would be fine in the running.

so bravo for being able to look stats up on the internet, but they dont prove your point at all.

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Originally posted by Ckerr812 heh..you have no idea do you. We have already proven that canadian economey is dependent on America, I just proved that.

No you didn't prove shit. Yes Canadian economy is dependant, but not in the way you and others make it sound like. If it was that case, we would be in deep shit because of how the economy is doing south of the border.

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So now you want to argue that the American econemy is dependant on Canada...lol That's just foolish talk. And the funnier thing is...the guy that started this thread now says...Well umm..We don't owe the states anything..after he found out RJ was right in his opinion.

you are assuming that, I said that exports to Canada are important to the US economy. 150B USD isn't pocket change by my standards, that's alot of jobs. Don't forget also our market is 10 times smaller than theirs, they can't export as much as they want taking this into account. While Canada(thanks to high level of industrialization) can produce more than its domestic demand thus exporting this much to our neighbour to the south. We are so close to this giant named the USA that you can't ignore its huge market.

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lol..like I said...why would I bother arguing with reasoning like that, it's just a waste of my time you too found out you where wrong and want to cry and name call like babies, so it's not worth my time.

yes i admited I missed on ONE figure. don't argue with me if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you, just ignore this whole thread.

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RJ WAS RIGHT! now stop crying about it.

no he's still wrong.

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Oh BTW, I do have a Masters degree...thank you for asking.

yes ass-master.

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Originally posted by discojoe we've witnessed something.. but id bet money its a lie. He hasnt made a good point yet. He's just screamed at anybody who disagrees with him and calls them uneducated. Id bet serious money its just some kid on his mommies computer trying to cause trouble. Cause that's about how intelligent he sounds.

Well you just made an opinion that you have no idea what your talking about, you don't know me, never met me and can't back that up one bit.

That means your just bullshitting exactly the same as when you make opinions about National Economies.

I can back it up, cause I have met many Ta's and they know me and where I went to school...lol

There's a point for you.

and for the record I was never yelling.

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Originally posted by Ckerr812 America buys 80 percent of Canadian exports....gee..if America didn't buy them, who would? ..Think about it. No one..that's who. because to educate someone in Geo Political and economic inflation and how the world economy works will take years.

so if I can go run to my text book and regurgitate "Geo Political and economic inflation" so I can sound so smart, means i'm educated?

HAHAHA
you sound like tommy boy when he says "uhh I was just checking the specs on the in-line of the rotation gerter.. ahh im retarded"

and back to who would buy our exports?
well anyone we bothered marketing them too. thats what humans do is make their products appealing to others for purchase.

cause you seem to think that if the US didnt buy our stuff no one would and we'd all give up and just not export anything.

huh

perhaps you wouldn't try a way to export but many would make fortunes doing so.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek No you didn't prove shit. Yes Canadian economy is dependant, but not in the way you and others make it sound like. If it was that case, we would be in deep shit because of how the economy is doing south of the border. you are assuming that, I said that exports to Canada are important to the US economy. 150B USD isn't pocket change by my standards, that's alot of jobs. Don't forget also our market is 10 times smaller than theirs, they can't export as much as they want taking this into account. While Canada(thanks to high level of industrialization) can produce more than its domestic demand thus exporting this much to our neighbour to the south. We are so close to this giant named the USA that you can't ignore its huge market. yes i admited I missed on ONE figure. don't argue with me if you don't want to. Nobody is forcing you, just ignore this whole thread. no he's still wrong. yes ass-master.

Are you that unhappy with your life you want to argue all the time?

Not me guy.....

Facts are facts...if you don't want to learn then hey..I am not going to say anymore. But it's that kinda attitude when I was young that I really regreted, I didn't listen to what people told me and thought I knew it all...but it's that kinda attitude that lands you a job at mcdonalds for the rest of your life.

So I see this thread has some growing up to do.

way to go, you're trying to divert our attention... you're good at that!

A-grade looser.

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Originally posted by Arcticboy I want to point out a few things. When free trade first started, Canada lost a HUGE number of manufacturing jobs. We were doing fine really before that. The fact that we have recovered through large exports to the U.S. is largely because of our dollar becoming so devalued over the past 12 years. Now, although it seems good for us to have a low dollar if it increases our exports and tourism to Canada, it actually hurts us in many ways as well. The most important in my opinion is the fact that Canadian property (including companies)is so easily bought by foreign (usually U.S.) investors. Their dollar goes so far here that most of our large companies are foreign owned to as much as allowed by law. That sucks! Another important factor is that our national debt which is signifantly to foreign investors is harder to pay back when our dollar is weaker. Maybe one of the economy masters (pun intended) can tell us about some other bad effects from a low dollar.

You are right that there are 'bad effects' of a canadian dollar, and you're probably right that we lost alot of manufacturing jobs but you are wrong that our low dollar is the reason we have recovered. The reason we have recovered (according to macroeconomic economic theory anyway) is because free trade causes a decrease in the general level of prices for everyone. When production leaves canada and goes to mexico or elsewhere where labour and other inputs are cheaper it causes prices of products to fall. When prices of products fall the disposable income of residents goes up proportionally. Maybe Ckerr with his masters can explain to us how a reduction in overall level of prices helps the economy and increses the number of jobs

The cause of the low canadian dollar is a result of a number of factors. One reason many economists claim is that it's a result of the lower level of productivity in Canada. Maybe Ckerr can explain the theory of how productivity affects the currency in an open market economy. come on Ckerr it is economics 101.. enlighten us

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Originally posted by ahlamalek way to go, you're trying to divert our attention... you're good at that! A-grade looser.

I'll have a big mac and medium fries to go.

and buddy, you're like older than me a full blown 3 months!!! WOW!!! that makes you sooo much more mature than me!!

keep watching the simpsons, southparks and that transformers movie lame ass!

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Who is Christopher Kerr? I was born on December 21st, 1978, the longest night of the year! Born: St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada Currently Residing: Between Toronto and St.Catharines. Favorite shows: The Simpsons, South Park, CSI, Who's Line Is It Anyway, Dexters Lab and Magnum P.I.. Favorite Movies: Blade one and two, Spiderman, Tomb raider, Lord of the Rings, Training Day, Gladiator, Star Wars (all of them), and Transformers (the movie).

spiderman was the cheesiest and gayest movie ive ever seen

Avro, leave him alone, he'll start crying

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Originally posted by ahlamalek and buddy, you're like older than me a full blown 3 months!!! WOW!!! that makes you sooo much more mature than me!! keep watching the simpsons, southparks and that transformers movie lame ass!

lol...Yea...I love the simpsons, Southpark, and tranformers.

BTW...

I'll have a small coke to with that..no ice.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek and buddy, you're like older than me a full blown 3 months!!! WOW!!! that makes you sooo much more mature than me!! keep watching the simpsons, southparks and that transformers movie lame ass!

HAHAHAAHA busted.. masters degree in ecnomics and his favourite movies are: F Blade one and two, Spiderman, Tomb raider, Lord of the Rings, Training Day, Gladiator, Star Wars (all of them), and Transformers (the movie).

How old are you reall? Come on man spill it


Tomb raider ahahahah. So what's angelina jolie's net worth Ckerr? or should i say Lara Croft.
Question.. Do you have nude raider? Cause I need to borrow it off you!

hahaha

btw malek is argueing with you (and beating you i might add) in his second or third language.

third language... gosh my english is so bad sometimes

So you guys like to look like jerks or what?

I still have a masters....

What does that prove, that I like movies and TV..lol


BTW, you want some number of some ta's you can call and ask them?..lol So sad, you have to resort to childish games.

Way to go...

Future mcdonalds employees.

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