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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee and in england, cigarettes cosabout 4 pounds(9.83 dollars) for a pack of smokes...u think we should pay about 10 bucks for smokes too??

Actually, when I choose to smoke I pay about $8 for pack of smokes, so it isn't all that different.

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if u go to a mcdonalds over there, the face value of the prices are the same as the face value over here...the exchange hoever means something else....

In 2000 I spent $9 CAD on a combo-meal in France [it was for a McTimber (the same as a big-deluxe) and Switzerland. I also paid $8 CAD on a combo-meal in Amsterdamn. I don't think the prices have dropped since I've been there.

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i know several people who didnt come for tiesto cos it was 30+ dollars which is alot for university/ college students to pay based on just part time wages....

I agree the prices are high. But any Gatecrasher event is at least 20 pounds, and personally I'd be happy to go to a monthly Gatecrasher event (since they are now only monthly) and pay that then go a weekly Guv event and be crushed (a-la-labour of love/corsten).

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I agree the prices are high. But any Gatecrasher event is at least 20 pounds, and personally I'd be happy to go to a monthly Gatecrasher event (since they are now only monthly) and pay that then go a weekly Guv event and be crushed (a-la-labour of love/corsten).

see for labour of love and guv 6 y aniv, they shouldve charged 30 or whatever as we paid for labour of love..sorry..maybe more..cos those nigths were filled with more than one talent..

however on a single night when theres only one DJ, its a bit too much to pay and the gatecrasher events usually haveseveral talents so its ok to pay so much..plus the have longer sets (i think)

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee see for labour of love and guv 6 y aniv, they shouldve charged 30 or whatever as we paid for labour of love..sorry..maybe more..cos those nigths were filled with more than one talent.. however on a single night when theres only one DJ, its a bit too much to pay and the gatecrasher events usually haveseveral talents so its ok to pay so much..plus the have longer sets (i think)

You're right on!

The Gatecrasher events for 20 pounds have an enormous amount of talent.

If the Guv wants to charge $40 or $50 for an event, then they need to have the talent (a few top DJs).

Look at the Aria line-up for Indy weekend in Montreal. They better be charging at least $50 / head, or the place is going to be chaos.... Since I hope to go (Jun 13/03) - I hope the price is high enough to keep the crowd reasonablel.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Look at the Aria line-up for Indy weekend in Montreal. They better be charging at least $50 / head, or the place is going to be chaos.... Since I hope to go (Jun 13/03) - I hope the price is high enough to keep the crowd reasonablel.

i heard tix are now @ 55..nnot sure tho

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee i heard tix are now @ 55..nnot sure tho

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Originally posted by Dr. Z

well to see Buuren, Tiesto and Ornadel, 55 is cheap...


however i only wanna see tiesto and maybe ornadel since i heard ehs awesome...AVB is absolutely not in my must see again list.

so there comes the problem for people like me who only wanna see one dj and thats another issue that may come up for many if there were monthly events here like @ gatecrasher

I doubt any university/college student would like to see ticket prices doubled... I'm so careful with money nowadays that at school, I force myself an extra 5 minute walk to a cheaper vending machine just to save 40 cents on pop...

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first off, I would like to say that I enjoy going to the guvernment. I have had some absolutely incredible nights there and I think that the moment where I walk into the main room (after checking my coat) is absolute magic. But with that said, I think that the overcrowding is a problem. I was really diapointed w/ the club after labour of love, many of the ppl in my group were unable to have a good time and i felt responsible b/c I had subjected friends of mine visting from NYC to that madness. I appreciate that teh club is able to keep cover low, but I think that there must be a happy medium that exists between cover and # of ppl.
Rather than staying here in Toronto, I went to montreal. The cost of the ticket was around $30 but I got to hear both seb fontaine and danny howells spin. I was really pleased with how the night turned out. One of the ppl in our group went outside to sell a ticket and reported that the line to get into aria was massive...but at no point was the club overcrowded or too crowded to dance. I hardly waited for coat check, I never waited in the washroom or at the bar. I also found the staff to be much more pleasant than at the guvernment. The guvernment is a great club but there is room for improvement. I would definately prefer to pay more to get into the guv and have a higher quality experience. I am hoping that the opening of Lotus and Distrikt will help w/ the overcrowding at Guv...b/c the management at guv doesn't seem to be doing anything about it.
just my 2 cents,
cs

Speaking of how Guvernment is so unsafe...

At least 21 people died in a crowded Chicago nightclub yesterday

story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=1&cid=578&u=/nm/20030217/ts_nm/life_club_dc

Hopefully Guv owners will learn from this.

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Originally posted by Durafei Speaking of how Guvernment is so unsafe... At least 21 people died in a crowded Chicago nightclub yesterday story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=1&cid=578&u=/nm/20030217/ts_nm/life_club_dc Hopefully Guv owners will learn from this.

I saw this on CP24 this morning. That is really sad. Durafei, Guv will not learn from this. The most they will do is have the owner write some ind of statmemnt that this was tragic and that he assures this will never hapen here even tho Guv really does not have enough fire exits and they pack that place to its "legal" capacity. I seriously Hope this will never hapen here tho like it did in Chicago.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Do you know that people in England pay 20 pounds ($50) to see an act (mind you, the acts are usually amazing)?!?!? I would rather pay $50 to $70 to see an act rather than have it be packed. Guv - take my advice, raise the price to $50 per act and don't jam the place.

Try not to oversimplify things. There's a reason they overpack it. More people = more money from alcohol, which is really where they make their money. I agree it's wrong, especially after all the disasters in the past year (indonesia, 50 people dying in a club in venezuela, and now chicago) but it is all about money. Keep in mind they are on EXTREMELY expensive property and djs' salaries are rising at a rediculous rate. You factor in security, heating/cooling, electricity, marketing promotion and you may find they arnt making as much money as you may think.

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Originally posted by fantom Now, if they were to fix the ventilation so I don't smell (ok, stink) like smoke and cigarettes once I get out, now that would be a much better move...

Well then my friend, your wish will soon come true. As of June 2004, all bars and clubs in Toronto will be smoke-free. This is the last "phase" of the city's smoke bylaw. Awesome!!

As for overcrowding, I absolutely hate that about the Guv. I go to see the big DJs so I can dance to their magic, as well as share the experience with friends. If I can't dance to it (I like LKD need a LOT of room), it already takes away over 50% of the pleasure away from me.

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Originally posted by Arcticboy Well then my friend, your wish will soon come true. As of June 2004, all bars and clubs in Toronto will be smoke-free. This is the last "phase" of the city's smoke bylaw. Awesome!!

June 2004?!
Damn, that's too far into the future for me...

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Originally posted by Arcticboy Well then my friend, your wish will soon come true. As of June 2004, all bars and clubs in Toronto will be smoke-free. This is the last "phase" of the city's smoke bylaw. Awesome!!

hopefully i quitsmokingby then...

u see all over the world, u can smoke anywhere..from the taxi u sit in to the mall u shop in...oonly here in north america as far as i know are they so strict with smoking which makes more and more people want to smoke thinking its cool or watever other reason

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Originally posted by Arcticboy Well then my friend, your wish will soon come true. As of June 2004, all bars and clubs in Toronto will be smoke-free. This is the last "phase" of the city's smoke bylaw. Awesome!!

Hhhhhmmm, I wonder how this will affect cigarette company sponsorship of club events??

Maybe they will make a Gold Club tent at Guv instead?

itikia

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Originally posted by itikia Hhhhhmmm, I wonder how this will affect cigarette company sponsorship of club events?? Maybe they will make a Gold Club tent at Guv instead? itikia

hahahaha............never thought about that..ahahhahahhaha

so now nicoderm and nicorette will start sponsoring events

isn't the no smoking inside club bylaw already commonplace in most Canadian cities .. ? atleast that's from what i've heard..

i think Montreal will be the last place to ever impose something like that ..

Itikia, I actually wondered about that. I suppose smokers will still go, just can't smoke inside. Don't know if it'll affect the gold club series.

LKD, you're wrong, the north american policy has led to much fewer smokers, check your statistics.

Fantom, patience my boy.

Desidel, is that true? Didn't know other cities had already done this. Frankly, I think it should be national or at least provincial. Like any other legislation aimed at protecting people's health.

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Originally posted by Arcticboy LKD, you're wrong, the north american policy has led to much fewer smokers, check your statistics.

OMG..dunno how u can say that....

first off..i dunno what u understood by my post

second of all,i moved to canada 2 years ago and the percentage of smokers is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more than back in the middle east where u can smoke anywhere, anytime and no one can do anything to u. There were only 5 smokers including me among all the people i knew my age. while over here, there may be only 5 people my age who dont smoke...and i know ALOT of people..its a psychological factor that makes people smoke here..in order to rebel against the law at an age before being legal while we dont have such restrictions elsewhere

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Originally posted by Arcticboy Desidel, is that true? Didn't know other cities had already done this. Frankly, I think it should be national or at least provincial. Like any other legislation aimed at protecting people's health.

yea .. it's true, when i was in Ottawa last winter there was no smoking allowed in any clubs. It felt kinda weird being inside of a club and not having the (usual) smells there..

atleast it was a lot easier to breathe and ur clothes only end up smelling like sweat at the end of the night

Wow, smoke free in less than 2 years!?!? Cant wait. Im sick of smelling like smoke, and burn holes after going to clubs!!!

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Originally posted by Arcticboy Desidel, is that true? Didn't know other cities had already done this. Frankly, I think it should be national or at least provincial. Like any other legislation aimed at protecting people's health.

I live in Waterloo and smoking is prohibited in clubs here. They do have a special smoking area though.


As far as the nubmer of smokers, I've been to europe this summer and EVERYBODY fuckin' smokes there ! it's insane !
Back in Russia even more people smoke. yet it seems that fewer die of cancer.

From what I have been told, in order for Benson to sponsor events for any nightclub they must have installed some of those cigarette machines in the club or they must sell Benson cigarettes exclusively. Either way, they make sure they sell their product inside the nightclub, but with the imposition of this new by-law Benson will definitely have to re-think their Nightclub marketing strategy as not many people will be buying inside the nightclub if they cannot smoke. The question that tobacco companies will need to ask themselves is, will they really get back 2-4 times of the sponsorship dollars they put into a club after the new by-law takes effect? I think not.

If you take a look at the UK club scene, tobacco sponsorship of club events quickly went extinct. Maybe this will happen here also, but only time will tell.

itikia

I can honestly say that it'd take a Chicago E2 catastrophe (21 People die in Stampede towards doors) before the Guv's greedy owners start paying attention to capacity by-laws and fire regulations. Every time a big headliner is there they cram as many possible patrons in there to maximize profits.

Bearing this in mind I won't go to a GUV party until things change, Ferry, Armin even PVD (although he hates Guv and will more likely than not be a Viva DJ on future trips i.e. April 20th [unconfirmed]).

So the Guv can do whatever it wants. I'm a Viva Patriot through and through. And now that Lotus has been exposed fo rthe Sham it is, even more so.

Indeed ottawa is smoke free. I think it happened here last year and when it passed through there was a HUGE uproar in the bar industry. I think at the time it was only the second canadian city behind halifax or something to implement it. I didnt know about waterloo durafei so maybe im a little off. Anyway the point is..innitially the bars felt naked. Like they were really missing something. But you get used to it and really begin to appreciate it. I mean I come back from clubs in montreal and I have to actually have two or even three showers before I get the smell out of my hair.

edit maybe it was two years ago..

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