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Originally posted by ResonantDrag we should be more careful tossing words implicating non-allied imperialist states in this period of world history

absolutely not!

see, i think this is part of the problem with this world we've been living in. Iran does suck, okay? North Korea does suck!


you call it the way you see it if want to do something about it.

you, and others like you, don't want to do anything about it. or at least it appears that way if you are not even willing to have the courage to, at the very least, verbalize the fact they suck.

besides i don't think Krypton knows his history well enough to realize that the term "Axis" was originally coined by Germans and the Italians to describe themselves, not by the "Allies".

if he'd known that he wouldn't have made that indignant statement.

thats what i was getting at.

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Originally posted by Q5echo absolutely not! see, i think this is part of the problem with this world we've been living in. Iran does suck, okay? North Korea does suck! you call it the way you see it if want to do something about it. you, and others like you, don't want to do anything about it. or at least it appears that way if you are not even willing to have the courage to, at the very least, verbalize the fact they suck. besides i don't think Krypton knows his history well enough to realize that the term "Axis" was originally coined by Germans and the Italians to describe themselves, not by the "Allies". if he'd known that he wouldn't have made that indignant statement. thats what i was getting at.

Did you ever hear us praise Iran, Iraq, or NK? Why do you assume because we don't believe invading these countries is the best course of action, you think we support these states? In the world of diplomacy, you don't call your counter-part 'axis of evil' if you really want a peaceful solution. That isn't calling it like it is. That is hawkish rhetoric.

You talk about courage? What, courage means invading other countries? You were so keen to defend our peaceful resolutions with NK, but so against any peaceful resolution with Iraq. Your views are inconsistant with what you preach.

My 'indignant' statement had nothing to do with where 'axis' powers came from. What the hell is your point by pointing out 20th century axis's callling themselves 'the axis'? What the hell are you trying to argue? My statement was meant to chastise this criminal administration who labelled, as ResonantDrag made clear to you, non-aligned failed states, as an axis like that of the 20th century. Where did we go after this label was made? We ousted Saddam. Great, now Saddam's greatest enemy, Iran, now has its hands free of a hostile Iraq. Not because anything that happened because of the Iraqi people, but because of a foreign powers influence. The very thing Al-Qaida has made clear is its reason for carrying on with its war. Don't you realize that foreign interference is the worst evil our world is facing today. And our great nation, the United States of America, has been turned into the greatest violator of the principal of sovereignty today. It's truelly sad. You probably want to label me anti-american or whatever. I love my country, even when its ruled by criminals. I just want my country to follow the rules like everybody else.

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