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Originally posted by m0sh The worst thing is bass (subs) so really stay away from them

It will be between 2-6kHz and the treble above about 8/9/10 kHz that does the most damage- due to the emphasis speakers place on these,and the sensitivity of the hearing at these freqencies. This can also hit your ears natural resonant frequencies and can hurt and do worse damage.

Bass frequencies themselves dont do as much damage due to the wavelength, but the problem with bass and subs is the sound pressure . The air movement and energy is many many many more times that of the highr frequencies and consequently the air movement is what can quite literally blow your eardrum apart. Big bank of subs=loadsa air movement.

(i also studied this a few years back at uni and college before that)

regardless-
take care of your ears, and each other (/jerry springer...)

well yeah air pressure and all that...what makes it really bad

I even heard it hurts internal organs but I'm not sure about that

I got my earplugs fitted about a week ago and i must say that theyre bloody nice. It doesnt block off everything like those foamy ones but actually filters everything and makes it softer (around 20 DB). I can still beat match easily so no problems there
What i also learnt that u can listen to music as long as u want if its around 80 DB (this differs a bit per person)

Paul van Dyk said that hearing damage isn't caused by loud music but by harmful frequencies coming from shitty equipment. I believe it because he's been around insanely loud systems for the last 20~ years and can still mix and hear perfectly...that being said, get some ear plugs for those shitty sound systems.

Most definitely shitty sound causes more damage than clean sound and high pitch noises are even more damaging, but trust me... don't start believing that you can listen to your car stereo at 120+ db all the time just cause you got top of the line subwoofers and speakers.... Pretty soon you wont even be able to hear the kids makin fun of you heh.

/me turns down winamp.

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Originally posted by `pr0digy /me turns down winamp.

But your sig says you are not even playing anything

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Originally posted by Jah hey ive wanted some ear plugs for a while now, can i just ask do you have to goto a audiologist and get special moulds or are there more 'generic' ones, i dont really have alot to spend on these plugs i just want something that will protect my ears, allow me to hear comfortably and clearly... what should i look out for?

I use the HI-Fi Hearos filtered earplugs...they cost me about 15 USD a pair and I like them a lot. You can find the info at www.hearos.com. I think they have a 12 dBa rating. They are pretty comfy though my ear canals are sore a bit from wearing them because I wear foam earplugs all day at work and the rubber is a little less comfortable for me.

If you are worried about "looking stupid" you don't have to worry abotu that with these...most people can't tell you are even wearing them since the only part you can see is the little filter stalk.

MrS

musician earplugs are the way to go. You can get them custom fit or the one size fits all. also magnesium pills help to if you are to chicken shit to wear earplugs.

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel I use the HI-Fi Hearos filtered earplugs...they cost me about 15 USD a pair and I like them a lot. You can find the info at www.hearos.com.

I used to use the rock n roll hearos when i was a drummer (which is worse than djing due to the cymbal frequencies) and they are recommended, especially at that price.

so are hi-fi hearos good to wear while djing? do they allow for easy beatmatching still?

Hi,

this is one very interesting thread !

I have some questuons concerning the earplugs. What do the musician earplugs cost if you have them fit to your ears in the Benelux area ?

When you mix using your headphones (obviously) and you use earplugs, doesn't this just mean you will have to TURN UP the volume from your headphone in order to hear everything ok ?

About a month ago my dad went to get earplugs for when he's sleeping, so he would hear absolutely nothing. They would completely block out all noise. But the Doctor told him not too cause it would fill his ears with junk. So he never took them. Do the musician earplugs also have this effect ?

I know I have to go to a Dr. to get confirmation, but heck if I ask it here I save myself at least 20$ on the first consultation with the Dr. !

Thanks !!

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Originally posted by Nou By the third day tho, it had cleared up, infact sometimes all I have to do is pop my ears or chew on some gum, dont know if that really helps, but it seems too.

What yer talkin about here is the fact that the pressure levels in your middle ear are lower than the atmostpheric pressure outside your eardrum. This causes your eardrum to kind of cave in towards the inside of your head and not move as much when sound hits it causing you to not hear as well.

To fix this, you need to pop your ears just like when youre traveling on a plane or something. Chewing gum and swallowing will cause muscles to open up your Eustacian Tube (a tube that allows air into the middle ear cavity) and equalize the pressure. You can also do this sometimes by holding your nose and mouth shut and trying to breathe out your nose... Happens to me all the time heh

There is some real good advice in there and you would be a fool not to take it.
Sadly it's too late for me as my hearing is already damaged. Although not massively I do have trouble hearing people sometimes when they are talking to me and do find my self asking people to repeat things more than I used to.
Back when I started DJing at the illeagal raves in the 80s standing infront of bassbins blowing your head off and having your eyeballs tremble was just a laugh.

I can still DJ (or at least I think I can )but I do wear ear plugs not as I am not going to hurt my ears any more... a hard learnt lesson but learnt all the same.

Cheers
Nem

PS
Paul Van Dyk is a DJ not a hearing specialist...

I'm started to get worried about my hearing too. My ears are fine now, but I get paranoid everytime I go to clubs, maybe I should start wearing some good earplugs



A question though, do DJs wear headphones at all when they're DJing?
If I would be a pro, I would wear them at every show...

where can I buy/get molded for the Etymotics and how much do they cost? I'm on their website but they offer none of that information

as well, are they very visible? and are they good for while your DJing?

Just tried wearign earplugs for the first time at lastweeks Ferry Corsten event... DAMN!! soooo much better/nicer walking out of the club and being able to hear my own thoughts, hell even just my friends, instead of that ANNOYING 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeee'....

Defineatly gonna keep wearing them.. I don't give a fuck what anyone in the club thinks...

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