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Posted by brian on Mar-03-2003 23:41:
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Originally posted by Gourhellyea
onceler you are the man. |
I second that.
I often have the same issues mentioned above. I usually record myself just messing around like 2 or 3 times before recording an actual mix. It helps a LOT. Like last week...see before February, I was doing mixes in Traktor (I had a turntable since November, but all I could really do was collect vinyls and hone down on beatmatching). Then I got my DJM500 at the end of January, and have been mixing tunes from my turntable and from two output channels (front & rear surround) on my PC. So some of my stuff still comes from MP3, but what do you do until you can afford a second turntable...Anyway, whomever suggested recording yourself practicing...I highly recommend it. I made my best mix ever last week -- I messed some things up but they were very very minimal screw-ups and were quickly corrected.
I guess I'm finally getting used to this mixer and even more used to recording myself.
Here's the tracklist if anyone's curious:
1) [ 0:00] Oliver Klein feat. Tom Hingley - Shakedub [Maelstrom]
2) [ 6:36] Sonorous - Glass Garden (Ronski Speed Mix) [Euphonic]
3) [12:58] Above & Beyond - Far From In Love (Airbase Remix) [Anjunabeats]
4) [18:16] Aly & Fila - Eye of Horus (Ronski Speed Mix) [Euphonic]
5) [25:55] System F - Solstice (Original Mix) [Tsunami]
6) [32:30] Solar Stone - Solarcoaster (Midway Remix) [Unknown]
7) [40:07] Sun Decade - I'm Alone (Ronski Speed Mix) [Euphonic]
8) [46:55] Solid Globe - North Pole (Original Mix) [Unknown]
9) [53:10] Minimalistix - Magic Fly (Brian Koner Remix) [Mostiko]
I gave a CD out to a few friends...they loved it. I'm trying to introduce some people to trance, and this last mix really seemed to do it for a few of them.
I love Euphonic.
Posted by onceler on Mar-03-2003 23:49:
nope, not the man... just had 6+ yrs using soundforge and recording mixes. if you couple cd architech w/ soundforge, it becomes even eaiser to record.
one thing i just started doing, which pretty much works wonders is cool edit pro to do denoise and what not. their de-noise, de-hum, de-crackle engine is top notch!
Posted by brian on Mar-03-2003 23:52:
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Originally posted by onceler
if you couple cd architech w/ soundforge, it becomes even eaiser to record.
one thing i just started doing, which pretty much works wonders is cool edit pro to do denoise and what not. their de-noise, de-hum, de-crackle engine is top notch! |
I agree.. it worked wonders for me last time I recorded.
By the way, who makes CD Architect? I'd like to have a look.
Posted by trancearmada on Mar-03-2003 23:55:
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Originally posted by brian
6) [32:30] Solar Stone - Solarcoaster (Midway Remix) [Unknown]
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unknown = Hooj Choons
Posted by brian on Mar-03-2003 23:56:
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Originally posted by trancearmada
unknown = Hooj Choons |
Thanks mate
Will go fix that now.
Posted by trancearmada on Mar-03-2003 23:58:
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Originally posted by brian
Thanks mate Will go fix that now. |
Not a problem what so ever!
Posted by onceler on Mar-04-2003 00:16:
Sonic Foundry makes cd architech
they just released 5.0 recently
works great w/ sf 6.0
Posted by xXxAzNrAvErxXx on Mar-04-2003 04:41:
I just started recording while I practice mixing and then listening to the recording afterwards...and I have to say it is helping with my mixing skillz. Cause when you are mixing you always think it sounds better than it actually does. When I listen to the recording after each mixing session I can tell what I did wrong and what works which is helping me a whole lot!
My point is everyone should record while they mix and just have fun and experiment. Afterwards when you listen to your recording you can tell what worked and what didn't.
It's all about having fun!

Posted by djdawn on Mar-04-2003 05:28:
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Originally posted by trancearmada
I have been stuggling trying to record my mix, (...) I had to use soundforge too get my mixes right, i just spent 2 straight days doing nothing but mixing and recording and editing!
DJ Armada - ProgresSlider 33 (Live Turntable Mix) - 03-03-03
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how dare you call that a "Live Turntable Mix"?
I mean editing is fine, but don't call it Live afterwards....
Posted by Phu on Mar-04-2003 05:31:
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Originally posted by djdawn
actually I think it's much worse when recording at home, cause you will hear every transition over and over again while at a club or rave you hear it only once and then it's gone. People forget fcuk-ups quite quickly if the next transition is good...
i hate making home recordings. that's part of why i quit (for now) |
This is very true.
Posted by trancearmada on Mar-04-2003 05:46:
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Originally posted by djdawn
how dare you call that a "Live Turntable Mix"?
I mean editing is fine, but don't call it Live afterwards.... |
breath.......
afterall I just recorded another set and dumped the previous one your were talking about and took out the "live set" part!
so there!
LOL!
here is the tracklist!
Gonna be available for download soon!
A.R.M.A.D.A. - DAY nUL
01. Sharpside - Critikal Freaks 2003 (Jurgen Driessen Remix) [Mutekki]
02. Marlon G - House In The Clouds (D:Fuse Remix) [Futureshock Music]
03. Sharp Boys - The Race Track (Digistar Remix) [Duty Free]
04. Martin Eyerer - The Rhythm As Such (Filterheadz Dub Mix) [Sumo Records]
05. Oxia - Bouni [Thrifty]
06. Tekken - Tribal Pursuit [Tekktonn]
07. Ron Land - Space Lab [Universal Prime Breaks]
08. Ross Couch - System Check [Bellboy Records]
09. Agora - Radio City (Alex Blake Remix) [UMF Records]
10. Tom Wax - My Definition (Pascal F.E.O.S. Remix) [PhutureWax.Records]
time: 50:54
Posted by Arsalan on Mar-04-2003 06:32:
I personally think you shouldn't edit your mixes at all, it's like cheating.
Like Tiesto says everything is done live(his CDs) because if you edit it it loses it's energy.
He said it in some interview...
Posted by Narcissus on Mar-04-2003 12:48:
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Originally posted by Arsalan
I personally think you shouldn't edit your mixes at all, it's like cheating.
Like Tiesto says everything is done live(his CDs) because if you edit it it loses it's energy.
He said it in some interview... |
His Revolutions cd is probably unreal if you say he didn't do any editing at all... not one beat out of place and everything fell in parts just like they were built to be...would take months to do that!
Posted by onceler on Mar-04-2003 14:50:
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| I personally think you shouldn't edit your mixes at all, it's like cheating. |
Here are a few things you have to weigh
- the big name dj's get paid tons and can afford to spend all day in front of the tables, us little guys trying to break in dont have the luxury, we dont have the time it takes to perfect a mix like them.
- cds are only 80 minutes long (90/99 if you can find them and have a burner that supports them) so if you run over, you can either edit it in soundforge or time compress it in acid in order to listen to it.
i do agree w/ you to an extent. i feel that it is cheating a bit, but if there are 14 songs on a cd, and you went back and touched up a couple, no biggie.. any more than that i would just re-record it. most of the mix cd's you buy from your big-name buddies are all done w/ editing & hardly anymixing
Posted by trancearmada on Mar-04-2003 16:11:
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Originally posted by onceler
i do agree w/ you to an extent. i feel that it is cheating a bit, but if there are 14 songs on a cd, and you went back and touched up a couple, no biggie.. any more than that i would just re-record it. most of the mix cd's you buy from your big-name buddies are all done w/ editing & hardly anymixing |
u are absolutely right, for example most Global Underground CD's are "digitally" mixed!
Posted by Gourhellyea on Mar-05-2003 00:18:
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Originally posted by brian
2) [ 6:36] Sonorous - Glass Garden (Ronski Speed Mix) [Euphonic]
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there is a ronski speed mix of glass garden? is it out on vinyl? i love the original
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I love Euphonic. |
werd euphonic and atcr is trance at its best.
Posted by brian on Mar-05-2003 00:47:
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Originally posted by Gourhellyea
there is a ronski speed mix of glass garden? is it out on vinyl? i love the original
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Yep, it was released some time last year, I think. It was released under Nebula (NEBT019 & NEBDJ019), Yris (YRIS 002), and Planetary Consciousness (PC 2028-6).
I just bought my vinyl copy Sunday
Ronski Speed does some amazing stuff.
Posted by Gourhellyea on Mar-05-2003 06:06:
where did you get it?
Posted by brian on Mar-05-2003 07:25:
eBay
Posted by mute79 on Mar-05-2003 17:20:
trancearmada, i don't get it... you record 2 days worth of mixing, and then you edit out the best parts and call that your mix?
wtf?

Posted by trancearmada on Mar-06-2003 00:57:
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Originally posted by TranceGeek
trancearmada, i don't get it... you record 2 days worth of mixing, and then you edit out the best parts and call that your mix?
wtf?
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that's why I dumped that mix and recorded another one instead which took me less than an hour and I did only one edit cause I fucked up in the middle
but regardless that's not the point, point is it's a promo CD, and not a live set, well it is but I did not call the promo CD a live set.... so.....
Posted by mute79 on Mar-06-2003 01:17:
i thought the point of a promo mix cd is to showcase your mixing skills, not editing skills... whats the point then? i mean, anyone can spend a month working on a cd untill they get all mixes right and patch it all up together... but isn't that cheating too? or how about if you do score a gig somewhere with that cd, and you're expected to mix perfectly the whole night, without fuck ups, like your cd... then what?
i dunno man, your logic is scary... 
Posted by trancearmada on Mar-06-2003 01:47:
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Originally posted by TranceGeek
i thought the point of a promo mix cd is to showcase your mixing skills, not editing skills... whats the point then? i mean, anyone can spend a month working on a cd untill they get all mixes right and patch it all up together... but isn't that cheating too? or how about if you do score a gig somewhere with that cd, and you're expected to mix perfectly the whole night, without fuck ups, like your cd... then what?
i dunno man, your logic is scary... |
well your logic is scary too had u read the entire thread you would know what the point behind my logic is, but than again why don't we look at all the Global Underground CD's. HMMMmmmmmm are they mixed live? Did not think so, every single one of them is digitally mixed. So where is the validity in your point than.
Posted by mute79 on Mar-06-2003 01:59:
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Originally posted by trancearmada
well your logic is scary too had u read the entire thread you would know what the point behind my logic is, but than again why don't we look at all the Global Underground CD's. HMMMmmmmmm are they mixed live? Did not think so, every single one of them is digitally mixed. So where is the validity in your point than. |
that's different... those are compilations... what you were (and any other amateur dj) doing was recording a promo mix that would showcase your skills behind the decks and your track selection...
Posted by trancearmada on Mar-06-2003 02:12:
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Originally posted by TranceGeek
that's different... those are compilations... what you were (and any other amateur dj) doing was recording a promo mix that would showcase your skills behind the decks and your track selection...
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so what? why do you care so much about what I do? are you a promoter? amateur dj is the key word, even u said it. and my CD still showcases my skills, I did one fuck up and went back and redone it again, it still shows my mixing skills and abilities not on the whole perspective, but I still mixed it live on turntables. not some mp3 program... why does this whole thing bother u so much, how does this affect u or anyone else at this point in time.
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