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Originally posted by Gourhellyea getting back to the topic, i have had a pvc 175 for half a year now and the paint work is fine. just dont use any water when cleaning it. i cant compare it to the numark cause i never had one but i would suggest that you save up and get the 275 mainly because you cant hear the eqs of the cued track through your headphones on the 175 so you dont know what elements of the song are what and dont really know how the mix will sound until you actually do it. my mixing is suffering because of it and i am thinking of already upgrading to the 275 when i get the money. my friend has the 275 and it is pretty sweet.

The topic was about mixers around the 200-250 price range but homo there brings up about his djm 600 but any how your pcv 175 is a great mixer. I had the pcm 170 but now own a A&h xone 62.

g-money, i think u gotta be more subtle/tactful with your comments.
virtually every post i read from u seems like ur havin a go at ppl.

with the whole biz with the djm600, i have one. and i honestly don't think its anything spesh. its not a bad box and overall its ok, but for the price, i really don't think its worth it. why do i have 1. i got mine shit cheap. sound quality is ok, nothing great, eq's are nice, and well, its simple layout is what makes it desirable i think. its sampler/effects i reckon are an after thought, i really don't like it and think an FX pad is a better option. djm600 also heats up like a mofo, the thing jus has too much gain. i like it for its cue split tho *shrug* but lots of other mixers have that.

as for mixer in the price range, check out vestax pcv 275or eclers. i really like the ecler smac=pro range. they jus look and feel so damn sexy! the sound is quality over the djm600, and just touching the box/knobs n faders, u just know its quality!

hold on. the 275 isnt even in the price range. oh well. i say save up a lil bit more dude!

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Originally posted by JayKuE g-money, i think u gotta be more subtle/tactful with your comments. virtually every post i read from u seems like ur havin a go at ppl. with the whole biz with the djm600, i have one. and i honestly don't think its anything spesh. its not a bad box and overall its ok, but for the price, i really don't think its worth it. why do i have 1. i got mine shit cheap. sound quality is ok, nothing great, eq's are nice, and well, its simple layout is what makes it desirable i think. its sampler/effects i reckon are an after thought, i really don't like it and think an FX pad is a better option. djm600 also heats up like a mofo, the thing jus has too much gain. i like it for its cue split tho *shrug* but lots of other mixers have that. as for mixer in the price range, check out vestax pcv 275or eclers. i really like the ecler smac=pro range. they jus look and feel so damn sexy! the sound is quality over the djm600, and just touching the box/knobs n faders, u just know its quality!

Thats true i admit i'm harsh on my post but in these forms there are alot of homo's out there that think they know shit but really they don't thats why i have to say that kinda shit u know what i mean. Like that fag project t he thinks he knows it all and think i can't afford a mixer and shit but to tell u the truth dude i have more money than his family can ever save up.

g-money, you are entitled to your own opinion. However, please don't go calling people homo's because of their choice of mixer. you are bringing nothing useful to the discussion whatsoever.

I'm not sure if you know, but Project T is not only a really nice kid, an excellent DJ (who won a trance addict mixing competition), but also a mod of this forum. which means he could have already edited or deleted your posts, or even suspended you i think. I'd have already done so if i was mod and you were insulting me and my family.

you'd be wise to watch your tounge if you want to be respected on these forums.

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Originally posted by JohnSmith g-money, you are entitled to your own opinion. However, please don't go calling people homo's because of their choice of mixer. you are bringing nothing useful to the discussion whatsoever. I'm not sure if you know, but Project T is not only a really nice kid, an excellent DJ (who won a trance addict mixing competition), but also a mod of this forum. which means he could have already edited or deleted your posts, or even suspended you i think. I'd have already done so if i was mod and you were insulting me and my family. you'd be wise to watch your tounge if you want to be respected on these forums.

First of all its none of your business and second he started it by saying i can't afford shit. So thats finally and i still think the pioneer stinks i'm out.

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Originally posted by Project T 175 is a very nice sound quality mixer, however paintwork chips easily, channel faders are far from durable and the kill switches make a click noise when flicked. probably the best for its price, if you can save up and get the 275 which is worth the extra funds

I'm actually thinking of getting a 175 cos of the price, but after reading this...im wondering whether i'll have to save up some more cash Can anyone confirm the clicking on the kill switches? And also, does the 275 come in blue hahahahahahh

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Originally posted by PointyDC I'm actually thinking of getting a 175 cos of the price, but after reading this...im wondering whether i'll have to save up some more cash Can anyone confirm the clicking on the kill switches? And also, does the 275 come in blue hahahahahahh

275 is a very nice mixer for the money but a 175 will do too.

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Originally posted by PointyDC I'm actually thinking of getting a 175 cos of the price, but after reading this...im wondering whether i'll have to save up some more cash Can anyone confirm the clicking on the kill switches? And also, does the 275 come in blue hahahahahahh

Yes there is clicking on the eq kill and lots of times, with my friend's 175 before he got rid off it to buy one just like the one I had, you could hear those clicks over the speakers, and NO sorry, 275 doesn't come in Blue, it is sorta like darkish silver color:


One thing that I really liked about the Numark Matrix 3 were the EQ Kill Switches, they are 2way, you can toggle down and hold for a long as needed and simply release, or you can kill the frequency by moving corresponding toggle switch up(this way you don't need to hold the toggle switch) simply push toggle switch back to the middle when you want to turn that EQ frequency back on. Plus kill switch on 175 or 275 is only -24db, Numark Matrix 3 is -40db, much, much better EQ control, plus I know 175 doesn't have balanced master out and I'm not sure about 275 outputs, but the Numark Matrix 3 has 1/4" balanced output, separate booth and unbalanced master out via RCAs, and you also have punch IN/OUT Transform buttons, and cross-fader is assignable.

I say go for the vestax PCV 275....it's the best mixer you can get in it's pricerange...nice soundquality, really neat EQ and another important thing...it doesn't leak any sound at all

and about the color...iut's not darkish silver...it's gold

actually, pointyDC, the PCV275 is quite costly in aus. about 1000-1200au. in the states, its virtually equivalent to the price of the djm300, which can't help but make u feel a lil jibbed if u were to get one here.

But i want a 275 in blue

Ahh well...can't win em all, hahah

JayKuE, I'm gettin 40% mate So i can get Mk3's for about 600-650 australian

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Originally posted by PointyDC But i want a 275 in blue Ahh well...can't win em all, hahah JayKuE, I'm gettin 40% mate So i can get Mk3's for about 600-650 australian

how, when, where?? spill boyo! wanna get me some equipment too??

A mate at school works at this suppliers place in Essendon, says he can get roughly 40% off most brands, so i gave him a list of stuff and got him to get the prices for me I could probably get you some shit as well, but i gotta check that this guy can follow through on what he says first

40% is a tall discount! hope it falls through for you though. lemme know what happens!

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Originally posted by g-money The topic was about mixers around the 200-250 price range but homo there brings up about his djm 600 but any how your pcv 175 is a great mixer. I had the pcm 170 but now own a A&h xone 62.

I think u've got a shit attitude, just cos u've been registered a long time, doesn't give you the right to flame Luke, whos' getting a record deal & has a radio show weekly, so not bad for a 'homo' eh ? if you wanna make comments like this, fuck off to trance.nu or something, we don't need stuck up ****s, most of us get on well, and you gotta fit in or get out, no need for comments like that when u know fuck all

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Originally posted by g-money Thats true i admit i'm harsh on my post but in these forms there are alot of homo's out there that think they know shit but really they don't thats why i have to say that kinda shit u know what i mean. Like that fag project t he thinks he knows it all and think i can't afford a mixer and shit but to tell u the truth dude i have more money than his family can ever save up.

� YOU started the saga by saying that's sad to hear over a mixer which I payed �700 for including insurance, sorry but that comment was intended to cause offence and u damn well know it

� Nice reading skills, look back i wrote stupid or elitist, get some glasses or a brain

� I don't work, only part-time webdesign.

� I am not homosexual

� You have more money than my family can ever save up, maybe you do, maybe and most probably I couldn't give a shit. However being only just 17 with a DJM-600s and 1200s payed for all by myself with a record deal pending isn't bad going IMO.

� Having never heard of you as a DJ or Producer I must say having all this expensive gear has done you ever so much good GET A LIFE!

Please have the courtesy not to be a nob in future, the thread is staying open for the benefit of the guy who wants this mixer.





About the clicking on the 175 kills and the paintwork problems, I can confirm that these both do happen as it was my last mixer before the DJM, for the money the Stanton RM-3 is a much better mixer but the sound quality ain't as good, I would just save up and get the 275 if you can

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Originally posted by deejay2002 the best mixer.....i would say djm-600 i would just pay more right off the bat, and won't have to worry about anything for the next 3 years

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Originally posted by g-money First of all the price range was 200-250 euro and the djm 600 is not the best mixer. If u go and do a search people who has use the 600 say its shit.

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Originally posted by Luke Terry the 600 is ace

and you are saying who brought up what now?

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Originally posted by g-money The topic was about mixers around the 200-250 price range but homo there brings up about his djm 600 but any how your pcv 175 is a great mixer. I had the pcm 170 but now own a A&h xone 62.

i guess that means yourself or deejay2002 must be "homo" and deejay2002 doesn't seem to be a "homo" to me and i'm sure he won't appreciate being called a "homo" just as i don't, so watch what you're saying.

We don't tolerate racism, ageism, sexism, or whatever u call choice of sexuality on this board, you should have been registered long enuff 2 know that. So once again book your ideas up.

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Originally posted by g-money First of all the price range was 200-250 euro and the djm 600 is not the best mixer. If u go and do a search people who has use the 600 say its shit.

What people are trying to suggest is he goes all out and buys big so there is no need for more expense when an upgrade is.

The fact of the matter is I've had the djm-600 for 3 years with both me and my brother using it and we still have not had the slightest problem with it (touch wood).

The other point you make about it being shite is a tad farcical. Obviously you don't know how to get the best out of it cos it was installed in clubs worldwide since it came out and numerous dj's have hailed it as the best peice of mixing equipment ever. The djm-600 is by far and away the best mixer for a bedroom set up. The allen and heath 62 can only really be appreciated when used in a club installation, when i'll admit it does kick djm ass.

look..... to be as real as is possible...... im 20 years old,. ive had my decks for 8 years..... i have a pair of soundlab dlp-1r's., theyre probably the shittest decks you can find..... my mixer... a soundlab dsm-30 ...... and im willing to bet that i can mix better than a lot of DJ's that all you guys hear about today!........ you know why?....... cos i know how to use the fucking thing....... all you elitests, with all your munny or what ever thinking your the bees knees, cos of the 5 grand mixer you got infront of you.....you think you paid that much because its the best damned thing in the whole creation of minakind? .... your wrong....... im willing to say that i am the best living proof of money dosnt count..... i told you my set up.... i had it since i was 13...... ok i dont DJ in a club yet, but thats for reasons not owing to my setup........... but i tell you now, in no arrrogance or anything, i have such a big gathering of ppl to hear me play (on an underground basis, house parties etc) ........ and i look at you lot, fighting it out as to who has the best fucking effects switches.... you look fiucking silly....... DJing is not what about what nobs or switches you got on your mixer........... its about what you can perform with what you got......... im willing to say that i learnt on near enough the shittest decks you could possibly find...... i still have them... i dont give a shit about spending a grand or 2 on a mixer thats the same as mine, but has an extra button.


honestly... you argue amonst yourselves like your the fucking shit, cos daddy bought you a mixer that you can go take a cruise on...... its fucking bullshit man..... any of you ppl that wanna make out that theyre the shit cos they have a big mixer, dosnt even deserve to be a part of what we all wanna become........ cos at the end of the day....... in our culture. spending money dosnt equal money........

ill play any of you 'daddys boys' fucks to a DJ competition me on my setup, and you on yours.
you think the more money you spend, the better you are!?!?! thats fucking ridiculous...... imo....... the more money you spend on a setup. the more you dont gove a shit about the scene you claim to love, cos at the end of the day..... in the back of your minds, you think 'you spend the better you will become' well thats bullshit, and it nothing to do with what the scene is about fucking grow up FFS all of you. ..... you wanna make your big bucks, go take a leaf out of milk inc and dj sammy's book. good day .

you all bore the shit out of me
it aint no fiucking popularity contest, on whos got the most metal in there setup

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Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z] look..... to be as real as is possible...... im 20 years old,. ive had my decks for 8 years..... i have a pair of soundlab dlp-1r's., theyre probably the shittest decks you can find..... my mixer... a soundlab dsm-30 ...... and im willing to bet that i can mix better than a lot of DJ's that all you guys hear about today!........ you know why?....... cos i know how to use the fucking thing....... all you elitests, with all your munny or what ever thinking your the bees knees, cos of the 5 grand mixer you got infront of you.....you think you paid that much because its the best damned thing in the whole creation of minakind? .... your wrong....... im willing to say that i am the best living proof of money dosnt count..... i told you my set up.... i had it since i was 13...... ok i dont DJ in a club yet, but thats for reasons not owing to my setup........... but i tell you now, in no arrrogance or anything, i have such a big gathering of ppl to hear me play (on an underground basis, house parties etc) ........ and i look at you lot, fighting it out as to who has the best fucking effects switches.... you look fiucking silly....... DJing is not what about what nobs or switches you got on your mixer........... its about what you can perform with what you got......... im willing to say that i learnt on near enough the shittest decks you could possibly find...... i still have them... i dont give a shit about spending a grand or 2 on a mixer thats the same as mine, but has an extra button. honestly... you argue amonst yourselves like your the fucking shit, cos daddy bought you a mixer that you can ru a cruise on...... its fucking bullshit man..... any of you ppl that wanna make out that theyre the shit cos they have a big mixer, dosnt even deserve to be a part of what we all wanna become........ cos at the end of the day....... in out culture. spending money dosnt equal money........ ill play any of you 'daddys boys' fucks to a DJ competition me on my setup, and you on yours. you think the more money you spend, the better you are!?!?! thats fucking ridiculous...... imo....... the more money you spend on a setup. the more you dont gove a shit about the scene you claim to love, cos at the end of the day..... in the back of your minds, you think 'you spend more money to make money' fucking grow up FFS all of you. you all bore the shit out of me it aint no fiucking popularity contest, on whos got the most metal in there setup

Calm down buddy. We all know that at the end of the day it's the dj who counts, but it's always nice to have a bit of luxury at the old fingertips. I agree you could probably out dj many of us on hear, but I don't think that was the argument in the first place.

They are arguing about stupid things like who's got the most money, all I suggested was that it would be best to go big at the start if he was planning to upgrade later on. This way avoiding future expense. If he doesn't want to follow his dream then he can always sell later on cos' lets face it who would want to buy a second hand numark mixer........

I myself learnt to mix with a set of numark 1200's or somethin and a bluedog mixer, my point being it's hard to progress your djing abilty on such a limited peice of equipment.

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Originally posted by chesco Calm down buddy. We all know that at the end of the day it's the dj who counts, but it's always nice to have a bit of luxury at the old fingertips. I agree you could probably out dj many of us on hear, but I don't think that was the argument in the first place. They are arguing about stupid things like who's got the most money, all I suggested was that it would be best to go big at the start if he was planning to upgrade later on. This way avoiding future expense. If he doesn't want to follow his dream then he can always sell later on cos' lets face it who would want to buy a second hand numark mixer........ I myself learnt to mix with a set of numark 1200's or somethin and a bluedog mixer, my point being it's hard to progress your djing abilty on such a limited peice of equipment.

lol, i know what you mean, about how you think that the more you spend on equipment, the bettter youll be, its absolute bullshit....

i wasnt aruiing with everytone a sec ago.... but it fucks me off soooooo much to see one person say, 'i got this mixer it cost 'so much' it will make me better than' then sum other guy saying no, what a waste of money, i bought this for a 1000 dollars more than what you paid, and it has a little button that does this little thing, and that makes me better than you....... it childish and immature. I dsidnt for one se3cond come on ere to try and make myself sound good cos ive had 8 years on an appauling setup..... but its fucking annoying to see kids (yes thats right KIDS) squabbling over tiny features, that dont matter if you know how to use the equipment, that u have...


.... my argument was aimed at that fuckng G-money, who cares what you got compared to any ****** else.... i been into DJing (im willing to say) a lot longer than most ppl on here, it wasnt till the other day that i found out what that allen n heath (whatever its called) was, and then i realised that they charge like 1000 pound for a mixer. I look at it and think wtf does anyone need that?, if you cant work a 100 dollar mixer to its absolute potential( and i mean to its ABSOLUTE POTENTIAL), then its a waste of money,........... give it up man....... you look like a fucking 7 year old with a new action man.

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Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z] lol, i know what you mean, about how you think that the more you spend on equipment, the bettter youll be, its absolute bullshit.... i wasnt aruiing with everytone a sec ago.... but it fucks me off soooooo much to see one person say, 'i got this mixer it cost 'so much' it will make me better than' then sum other guy saying no, what a waste of money, i bought this for a 1000 dollars more than what you paid, and it has a little button that does this little thing, and that makes me better than you....... it childish and immature. I dsidnt for one se3cond come on ere to try and make myself sound good cos ive had 8 years on an appauling setup..... but its fucking annoying to see kids (yes thats right KIDS) squabbling over tiny features, that dont matter if you know how to use the equipment, that u have... .... my argument was aimed at that fuckng G-money, who cares what you got compared to any ****** else.... i been into DJing (im willing to say) a lot longer than most ppl on here, it wasnt till the other day that i found out what that allen n heath (whatever its called) was, and then i realised that they charge like 1000 pound for a mixer. I look at it and think wtf does anyone need that?, if you cant work a 100 dollar mixer to its absolute potential( and i mean to its ABSOLUTE POTENTIAL), then its a waste of money,........... give it up man....... you look like a fucking 7 year old with a new action man.

I know what you mean. I myself am not the greatest dj, but my brother is very good, so he likes to buy bigger, which means I get the use of it. This lot earlier in the thread sound like a bunch of bel air bum boys, "no i've got more money than you do" This board is meant to be about people sharing opinions on the music they listen too, and the things that go with it, not about such petty arguments

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