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Posted by Remy D on Mar-02-2003 00:47:

Last week I saw him 2 times.

20 feb he plays three hours with songs like this:
Catcher - Destiny Sunrise
Chris Lake - Santiago De Cuba
The Ambush - Everlast (Oliver Lieb Remix)
ROC Project - Never (DJ Tiesto Remix)
Mr Sam vs Fred Baker - Forever Waiting
James Holden - Nothing (Returning 93 Mix)
Scott Bond vs Solar Stone - 3rd Earth
James Holden - Horizons
DJ Tiesto ft. Junkie XL - Obsession (Frank Biazzi Remix)
Midway - Monkey Forest
Planisphere - Totem
Way Out West - Mindcircus (Gabriel & Dresden Remix)
Cor Fijneman feat. Jan Johnston - Venus (DJ Tiesto Remix)
U2 - Staring At The Sun (Brothers In Rhythm Remix)
Leama - Requiem For A Dream (Leama's Dream Mix)
GTR - Mistral
Conjure One - Tears From The Moon (DJ Tiesto Remix)
DJ Cor Fijneman - Exhibition
Benjamin Bates - Locked Up (Bates 45 Mix)
Marc et Claude - The History of Acid House
Max Walder - Samba del Costa
Matt Darey- Electro Buzz
Three Drives - Air Traffic

The 22th he plays a lot harder stuff. Every time he plays different and you can not complain about his style after one set.

Posted by sifntj0r on Mar-02-2003 02:50:

which flame would you like to select today?

a) the style is boring and repetitive

b) the tracklist hasn't changed in months

c) i dont like his new style so he must be shit

d) i'm a fanboy of x dj so it's my duty to flame him

so many choices, eh haters.

Posted by AliMcG on Mar-02-2003 03:09:

Tiesto plays what thew crowd wants hence what made him #1 last year. He doesn't just play for people who download every set he does and just criticise. Tiesto plays for the masses and as long as he satifsy them hes doing great. Those of you who hate him for going commerical. i spit on you to say the least!!

Posted by bilange on Mar-02-2003 04:40:

I saw him last december and he was indeed playing techy trance... I was disappointed, since tech stuff isnt my cup of tea.

Posted by brian on Mar-02-2003 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by sifntj0r
which flame would you like to select today?

a) the style is boring and repetitive
b) the tracklist hasn't changed in months
c) i dont like his new style so he must be shit
d) i'm a fanboy of x dj so it's my duty to flame him

so many choices, eh haters.

ha ha, nice one.

and for the haters:
let him play whatever the hell he wants.. he can experiment if he likes. he's not going to cater to everyone's individual tastes, so move on if you dont like his style anymore. if he ain't your cup of tea, he ain't your cup of tea. build your bridges and get the hell over it.

Posted by dark_tenshi on Mar-02-2003 05:47:

Posted by whitesmoke on Mar-02-2003 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
One year ago people were complaining that Tiesto is playing all the same tracks over and over again.

Now that Tiesto is playing new stuff and changes his sets quite often people are complaing again!

WTF do you want from the guy? Every DJ is an artist, he wants to play what he likes. Right now he's feeling techier sound. Why not?
I don't think you should call him crap - just say you don't like his new style, that's it !

quote:
Originally posted by sifntj0r
which flame would you like to select today?

a) the style is boring and repetitive
b) the tracklist hasn't changed in months
c) i dont like his new style so he must be shit
d) i'm a fanboy of x dj so it's my duty to flame him

so many choices, eh haters.

those 2 say it all

Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Mar-02-2003 08:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei

WTF do you want from the guy? !

first of all, id like him to show me personally, that he is worth the reputation he earned back in 98/99
.....

and then, i want him to prove to me personally, thats he's worth number 1 DJ in the world status

and last of all, i want him to give me a reason to not hate him as much as i do. ..... Not because im narrowminded and not a massive normal trance fan.... i can appreciate any good set thrown at me. but over the past 2 years over the 7 (ish) times ive seen him, he just aint delivered any form of goods. Which is a key factor to why i didnt go to GC to see him last night... ok i have no money, but i could have got in free, and got my drinks paid for, but it just didint interest me

Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Mar-02-2003 08:35:

Posted by Arsalan on Mar-02-2003 10:59:

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-02-2003 11:41:

quote:
Originally posted by kreischer2000
2 words: FUCK OFF

well theres a well thought out, and nicely put forward arguement to why you disagree with what has been said fecking idiot.

Just got back from seeing Tiesto. Was glad to find he didn't play as techish as i was expecting after reading this thread. And he was on for 3 hours in the end First hour was good, and his mixing was okish, but the last 2 hours his mixing was abysmal at times, and just generally shite at others. And the set didnt flow well at all.. Overall, some great tunes, but shitely put together... and he finished his set with Mistral followed by Urban Train (Cosmic Gate Remix) so he didn`t get a slap afterall But at the end of the nite, Frank Trax and Eddie Halliwell and Matt Hardwick blatently put him to shame! Especially Halliwell. I havnt been amazed by such talent in such a long time, it really was incredible.

Posted by Prototrance on Mar-02-2003 13:44:

Re: WTF is Tiesto playing at !?!?

quote:
Originally posted by Dubster
So I went to Gatecrasher last night to see Tiesto/Hardwick/Halliwell

WTF was Tiesto playing !? It could only be described as Hard Tek-House. Dark heavy bass all night. Not what you expect from him AT ALL. Luckily Hardwick played the best 2 hour set of uplifting trance I have heard in many a moon to save the day... is Tiesto trying to tell us something ? He finished up with GTR-Mistral, but other than that I thought he was AWFUL. And, as a big fan, thats not something I say lightly ...

Anyone know if Hardwicks sets get listed anywhere on the net ?

When I saw him on boxing day his set was terrible - I think its because he was put on very late, therefore had to play some harder stuff.

I WANT THE OLD TIESTO BACK.............. when his sets went Prog' trance --> Trance -->Tech-trance --> a cheeky bit of techno.

Posted by Freefall on Mar-02-2003 18:17:

Re: Re: WTF is Tiesto playing at !?!?

ooo dear it appears war has broken out

Didn't mean to sound that negative about Tiesto. My whole enjoyment of the night was dampened by the GC environment. The production quality of the night was poor at best, the sound system in Heaven ain't that great, and it was just toooo crowded to be honest.

I should also qualify, Friday night was the first time I've ever seen Tiesto play live. I only knew his earlier style by buying his old vinyl tracks at the time, though I never saw him playout then.
Yes DJs can vary their style, but in so doing you can never please all of the people all of the time (refer to heated arguments above for proof )

imho it's a classic case of top DJ going "off on one", exactly as Jules did once he'd made enough money/got a big enough rep. Then they know they can play what they want to, rather than responding to general consensus. I'm not saying this is a good/bad thing, just the way it seems to go.

Tech trance is fine if you're totally off your face, but to be honest, I've had 100times better nights at hard trance/hard house clubs DJ'd by London locals.

The vibe just wasn't there for me that night, too much of an eclectic mix of people.

Just my 2p.

Posted by T_2199 on Mar-02-2003 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
first of all, id like him to show me personally, that he is worth the reputation he earned back in 98/99
.....

and then, i want him to prove to me personally, thats he's worth number 1 DJ in the world status

Well he is the number 1 dj because the ppl voted for him!!!

and why voted the ppl for him??

because he performaned great sets..

and btw of course u execpt trance @ gatecrasher but blame the managers who booked a dj who not just plays trance!!
I don�t think he need to change his style just for pleasing the gatecrasher ppl!

Posted by Dubster on Mar-02-2003 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by brian
ha ha, nice one.

and for the haters:
let him play whatever the hell he wants.. he can experiment if he likes. he's not going to cater to everyone's individual tastes, so move on if you dont like his style anymore. if he ain't your cup of tea, he ain't your cup of tea. build your bridges and get the hell over it.

I'm far from a hater. Love his stuff. Or maybe I should say I love his "old" style. Hardwick has left him for dust based on recent plays - FOR ME. So yeah, as you say, move on - I'll chase Matty around instead - go where you enjoy yourself, its all that matters ...

Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Mar-02-2003 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by T_2199
Well he is the number 1 dj because the ppl voted for him!!!

because he performaned great sets..

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no offense mate, but have you actually seen him play live?

and im sorry, but i really dont know what your getting at about gatecrasher. But one thing i DO know, is that over the last year and a half, tiesto wasnt pulling in crowds like he is now, before he got voted number 1 DJ

Posted by Spad on Mar-02-2003 19:47:

It seems from this thread that it's the Tiesto lovers who can't back up their arguments, not the other way around. Most negative reports are coming from people who're reffering to specific issues on specific nights, rather than the "he's #1" coming from the other camp.

Food for thought: The fact that he was voted worlds Number One DJ means that he is most popular and nothing else. TATU are at number 1 in the UK charts at the moment because they are the most popular, not the most talented.

Personally I don't think he's all that bad. He went a bit off-track last year and his mixing isn't the best but last time I saw him he was amazing, and I listened to the first 2 hours of his set at Gatecrasher last night and it sounded mint.

But if you're going to have an opinion, at least attempt to back it up. "he's world number 1" and "you just hate him coz he's popular" do absolutly nothing to back up any argument

Posted by Durafei on Mar-02-2003 19:53:

Isn't it ironic that when Tiesto was playing Trance back in 2000(and was indeed the BEST dj in the world), people in UK have been listening to progressive and didn't give two shits about him. Now that Tiesto brought Trance back to UK clubs, but has changed his style, people in UK still don't give two shits about him. I guess it has to do with the fact that people in UK generally prefer UK DJs.

Tiesto is fuckin' responsible for bringing Trance back. When a #1 DJ Paul Oakenfold has stopped playing Trance, Tiesto continued doing so. I doubt Trance would be as popular these days if it wasn't for Tiesto.

Posted by Durafei on Mar-02-2003 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
no offense mate, but have you actually seen him play live?

and im sorry, but i really dont know what your getting at about gatecrasher. But one thing i DO know, is that over the last year and a half, tiesto wasnt pulling in crowds like he is now, before he got voted number 1 DJ

Hm.. very very strange.. Then what's that thing about "Tiesto: In Concert" I'm hearing about? I hear it will attract 25,000 people ! Has any other DJ attracted that many people? EVER ?

Posted by Spad on Mar-02-2003 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
Hm.. very very strange.. Then what's that thing about "Tiesto: In Concert" I'm hearing about? I hear it will attract 25,000 people ! Has any other DJ attracted that many people? EVER ?

You still seem confused by the popular/talente issue. Back your opinion up with something other than public opinion.

By your reckoning, DJ Sammy makes better tunes than Flutlict coz he's sold more tunes.

Posted by Spad on Mar-02-2003 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
Isn't it ironic that when Tiesto was playing Trance back in 2000(and was indeed the BEST dj in the world), people in UK have been listening to progressive and didn't give two shits about him. Now that Tiesto brought Trance back to UK clubs, but has changed his style, people in UK still don't give two shits about him. I guess it has to do with the fact that people in UK generally prefer UK DJs.

Tiesto is fuckin' responsible for bringing Trance back. When a #1 DJ Paul Oakenfold has stopped playing Trance, Tiesto continued doing so. I doubt Trance would be as popular these days if it wasn't for Tiesto.

Tiesto was hugely popular in Gatecrasher a long time ago mate. And Gatecrasher were playing trance long before he turned up. Bought trance back to UK clubs? Stop quoting mixmag

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-02-2003 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
Hm.. very very strange.. Then what's that thing about "Tiesto: In Concert" I'm hearing about? I hear it will attract 25,000 people ! Has any other DJ attracted that many people? EVER ?

Paul van Dyk played in front of 1 million people at LP. Just for that reason, does that mean that PvD is better than Tiesto then? (which he clearly is anyway, but thats another debate.)

Posted by Spad on Mar-02-2003 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
(which he clearly is anyway, but thats another debate.)

That's blatently not true PvD may be able to mix, but other than that he's dire.

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-02-2003 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
That's blatently not true PvD may be able to mix, but other than that he's dire.

He can mix better, his sets flow better and are much better structured than tiestos. he is more creative and energetic in his mixing. the only thing i can think of left is their styles differ, and that is down to personal preference between me and u, and since that is the only variable, we cant count that. opinions are like ass holes, everyones got one

Posted by Spad on Mar-02-2003 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
He can mix better, his sets flow better and are much better structured than tiestos. he is more creative and energetic in his mixing. the only thing i can think of left is their styles differ, and that is down to personal preference between me and u, and since that is the only variable, we cant count that. opinions are like ass holes, everyones got one

Was PvD voted worlds #1 DJ? I rest my case. Your opinion is obviously wrong.

( ) jk of course.

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