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Posted by arturob on Mar-06-2003 07:05:

quote:
Originally posted by miss_e
......but i still love j00 bonetti!



Posted by Pointy on Mar-06-2003 07:09:

The lil drum roll at around 1:50 in the radio rip i have - probably the one everyone has - simply makes me cringe.

It aint the definition of cheese, but he's certainly cheesed up the original.


Posted by arturob on Mar-06-2003 07:14:

quote:
Originally posted by PointyDC
The lil drum roll at around 1:50 in the radio rip i have - probably the one everyone has - simply makes me cringe.

It aint the definition of cheese, but he's certainly cheesed up the original.


i laaav that so much

btw.. 1:37 mmmmmmmmmmmmh when the kicks comes omfg sooooooooo powerful the club in newyork erupted when wavy kicked!


Posted by Pointy on Mar-06-2003 07:16:

Just to make sure of it, I'll have to take the tune over to my friends massive $40,000 stereo in his basement for a caining. Will most likely report back


Posted by arturob on Mar-06-2003 07:17:

quote:
Originally posted by PointyDC
Just to make sure of it, I'll have to take the tune over to my friends massive $40,000 stereo in his basement for a caining. Will most likely report back


omg... blast that bitch of to the max... and remember to jump ! and jump ! and jump ! @ 1:37.... you will see what I mean


Posted by Pointy on Mar-06-2003 07:23:

Werd to the jumpers!


Posted by arj1o1 on Mar-06-2003 07:58:

i don't like wavy gravy and i don't like PvD so it's easy
but if he makes a tune more danceable with some PvD edits i understand


Posted by montie on Mar-06-2003 08:02:

quote:
Originally posted by arj1o1
i don't like wavy gravy



gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasp
BLASHPHEMY!!!!!

**faints**






Posted by nrGeorge on Mar-06-2003 09:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Rakoon
You guys are biased. He didnt do that much to the track. Just replace the breaks with a standard beat and wooh, heres his rework! Not much to it guys, even I can do that


why don't u then?it's not just the beat that he adds... pvd has created a unique style and u can identify every single track & remix he has made...he's not just playing music made by other ppl...as far as wavy gravy's concerned i l0ve the original but the rework is so full of energy and it's incredible...


Posted by PSi on Mar-06-2003 14:39:

Red face Dance classes anyone?

The original mix is amazing, and pvd's rework is just simply boring like all his other remixes/reworks. Plus, i dont know why you guys cant dance to it, i just guess it boils down to ability and skills on the dancfloor. Oh and one more thing wavey gravey has a bpm of around 140, you guys need to do your homework.


later
PSi


Posted by JM on Mar-06-2003 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by PointyDC
The lil drum roll at around 1:50 in the radio rip i have - probably the one everyone has - simply makes me cringe.

It aint the definition of cheese, but he's certainly cheesed up the original.


exactly what i was thinking..."cheesed up"

thank you for reading my mind

>JM<


Posted by T_2199 on Mar-06-2003 18:48:

Well.....
It�s not even released and will not be released!!! He played it just @ radio fritz and in some of his sets...

is just for pvd personal use and if he hadn�t remaked it he wouldn�t be able to play this monster tune in his sets because the original from sasha just doesn�t fit his style... so i�m very happy that he "remixed" it for his own sets..
I guess without the PVD rework many trance heads wouldn�t even know this tune!!

and btw what�s the big deal... he added his bassline and made some small changes just to play this tune in his own sets and that�s it... no release or something!! so every1 who claimed that pvd stole this song from sasha is saying horse shit!!


Posted by kr00t0n on Mar-06-2003 19:11:

Havent heard this re-work, but if its anything like the shyte he did to Ralphie B - Massive, then I'll steer clear.

The original and Mirco De Govia mixes of Massive are thousands of time better than his little re-work, which just made the bassline SO boring

IMO, he took all the energy out of that particular track


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Mar-06-2003 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by PointyDC
PvD also took one of the most beautiful tracks ever and made a fucking cheese cake out of it. Worst rework ever! Should never see the light of day! EVER!




I'm in total agreement with that statement ! !


Posted by Ste on Mar-06-2003 19:41:

to be fair, i dont like either versions...


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-06-2003 19:43:

He totally destroyed it, taking a track and reworking it. Frankly I don't care if he did it for his own benefit. That track does not need a remix and even if Sasha is having a remix competition on his site, that track was fine as it was. Paul Van Dyk reworked it, what's next? remixing xpander. If that happens, I'm burning my pvd cd's...oh this also applies to the other twat (hint LUKET!) who remixed it....certain tracks don't need remixes....wavy gravy and xpander are two.


Posted by Scorpio Rising on Mar-07-2003 18:37:

Well if you guys hate it that much, just don't listen to it, stick to the original, problem solved.


Posted by sektile on Mar-07-2003 22:47:

what the fuck is wrong with you people? cant dance to the original wavy gravy? its breaks.
does something need a 4/4 baseline for you to be able to dance to it? cause thats all he did.
sheesh..


Posted by victor on Mar-07-2003 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Christopher B
I don't dislike PvD's rework. the original is more creative and interesting musically, however, it's hardly a dancefloor tune. PvD merely made it suitable for live play, and it came out nicely. Compared to the original it may be not that great, but relative to most other trance tunes produced, its quite excellent.

Time and time again, people complain about remixes, saying that they stray too far original, and take out all the good aspects of the tune. Now that PvD is sticking to the original as much as possible, just changing a few minor things to fit his style, he's criticized for being boring and unoriginal.

Moral of the story: You can't please everyone.


point well made...

let's just hope tough that he keeps his hands of Xpander...


Posted by Pointy on Mar-08-2003 00:41:

I think what really disappointed me about the rework, is that Sasha poured his heart and soul into the whole Airdrawndagger album and the production was top notch. Sounds like he spent a lifetime on each of the tracks as they're so full with musical delights, then PvD comes along and spends half an hour and does a half-arsed job switching a few things around. If you're gonna fuck with a track which has had alot of time put into it, then you should take the time and remix it properly - ala Luke Chable's beauty


Posted by kr00t0n on Mar-08-2003 12:33:

quote:
Originally posted by sektile
what the fuck is wrong with you people? cant dance to the original wavy gravy? its breaks.
does something need a 4/4 baseline for you to be able to dance to it? cause thats all he did.
sheesh..


Whats so difficult about dancing to breaks?
I fekking lurv dancing to breaks


Posted by biznology on Mar-08-2003 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
Whats so difficult about dancing to breaks?
I fekking lurv dancing to breaks


completely agree. dancing to 4/4 is boring, and simple. breaks let you get dooowwwn...

if you wanna hear a danceable, badass, WAY more energetic remix of this tune(and one that doesnt lick balls and fuck up the original) try the sander kleinenberg - partynight (tribal gathering set) 11-23-2002. it rocks my world, shit even the Amber song on there kills without cheese. fuck|


people who worship pvd dont know what theyre missing out on. satoshi tomiie kills...mmm tribal gathering


Posted by webbie on Mar-08-2003 15:58:

quote:

why don't u then?it's not just the beat that he adds... pvd has created a unique style and u can identify every single track & remix he has made...he's not just playing music made by other ppl...as far as wavy gravy's concerned i l0ve the original but the rework is so full of energy and it's incredible...



Come on, unique style? For me a unique style is when someone really
finds a sound that NO ONE else can master and continues to develop
that sound in coming productions and remixes, not using the same old
formula for all remixes just to make it "fit his sets".

I have begun wondering if he is altering tracks to "fit his sets" in
order to make it all sound the same so people wont have to worry, just
dance or if he is doing just becuase he doesn't wanna be arsed too
much with beatmatching and so on.

I just think he ruined it.


Posted by kr00t0n on Mar-08-2003 16:06:

I love the way that if an artist uses a similar style in their tracks, they are cheesy or unoriginal, but if PvD does it, its alright... NOT!


Posted by DJ_Skaya on Mar-08-2003 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
He totally destroyed it, taking a track and reworking it. Frankly I don't care if he did it for his own benefit. That track does not need a remix and even if Sasha is having a remix competition on his site, that track was fine as it was. Paul Van Dyk reworked it, what's next? remixing xpander. If that happens, I'm burning my pvd cd's...oh this also applies to the other twat (hint LUKET!) who remixed it....certain tracks don't need remixes....wavy gravy and xpander are two.


So I'm assuming that if, for whatever reason, you decided to take a track and mess with it for fun, not even planning to release it anywhere, that if I don't think you did a good job I should run over and burn your house down?

By the way, I don't agree with PointyDC's comment about the song being the "worst remix ever". The worst remix ever is Planet Perfecto - Bullet in the Gun (Rabbit in the Moon mix)


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