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Posted by Ian on Mar-18-2003 21:23:

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Originally posted by occrider
So by your standards EVERY "democratic" country is guilty of not adhering to true democracy. The last true democracy were the Romans and even then it was faulty due to who actually qualified as "citizens."

And actually more than 50% of the country agree with Bush's actions according to the latest polls. So relish in our democracy

No Offence but I don't think ur talkin about Blair at all, keep ur american talk in american topics

Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Mar-18-2003 22:17:

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So by your standards EVERY "democratic" country is guilty of not adhering to true democracy. The last true democracy were the Romans and even then it was faulty due to who actually qualified as "citizens."

And actually more than 50% of the country agree with Bush's actions according to the latest polls. So relish in our democracy

Aside from the way in which Bush came to power, he indeed is enacting the will of the people. Blair and Aznar, however, aren't, since in Britain, about 80% of people are against the war, while in Spain it's almost 95%.

And it wasn't Rome, it was Greece.

Posted by occrider on Mar-18-2003 22:40:

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
And it wasn't Rome, it was Greece.

Yes you are correct ... Rome was the one with the senate, Greece had those huge voting meetings, silly me.

Posted by Izzy on Mar-18-2003 23:46:

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Originally posted by JohnSmith
He is after all taking a position that the overwhelming majority of citizens in his country don't agree with,

i wouldnt say overwhelming majority

An ICM poll for the Guardian suggests public opinion is shifting towards backing war although more still oppose (44%) than back (38%) war.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2859189.stm

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not to mention his own cabinent.

that is completely not true.

"Britain's House of Commons backed Prime Minister Tony Blair's policy on Iraq on Tuesday, voting in favor of using "all means necessary" to disarm Saddam Hussein."

"In an earlier vote, lawmakers also supported Blair, rejecting a motion to oppose a U.S.-led war with Iraq."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81403,00.html

Posted by sifntj0r on Mar-19-2003 13:44:

i saw some of news in which blair addressed the cabinet/house/whatever (i dont know the system over there). but he did go in with some of his ministers no supporting, with a large percent of people not supporting a war, and imo he handled the situation well. one thing that's always struck me about tony blair is that he always appears more comfortable and genuine in his speeches. unlike our leaders over here who often just read of the paper they're given so it doesnt flow at all, and bush's address to the world didnt really flow either (really slow).

anyyway, he (blair) definately fired up about the issue and didnt back down in his speech, and seemed to get alot of agreements etc. the news even said there was a slight majority of brits who now supported war with iraq, but i'm unsure how credible that statement is.

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