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Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Mar-12-2003 22:14:

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Ok so the French saved the US's ass like once, hmm lets not forget that France wouldn't even be a fucking country if it wasn't for the US in WW2. Personally i don't think countries should have to ask for other countries permission to go to war. If one has reasons to go to war then let them deal with it, other countries can remain neutral or involve themselved if they would like.

So what if US helped France. That doesn't mean that France should support every action commited by the US. As I said many times before, US helped France fight a defensive war, while is now asking the French to support them fight an offensive war. If the US was to be attacked, I am pretty sure France would support it. But US is not attacked, at least not by Iraq, so there's no reason to support the offensive. And since the US is a member of the UN, and has all the rights and priviledges UN members do (even more than most), it should also comply with its rules. Defying the UN is basically defying a global community, and I think that we should work towards creating a more united and connected planet rather than returning to the state isolationism. Besides, UN can't block a US attack on Iraq, but it can say it doesn't support it, and that's exactly what France is doing. It's not like France will use its military to counter the US. But US should be aware that the most of the world is against the action. And if they still decide to do what they intended, they will do it against the will of the global community and they will suffer economic and diplomatic consequences as an indirect result of their defying of the UN.

Btw, why do you people keep bringing topics like this into the chillout room when there's a nice political debate section here also?

Posted by CynepMeH on Mar-12-2003 22:33:

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Originally posted by montie
it makes me sick

this makes me sick also
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS...ries/index.html

French fires!!! ahahahhahaahh!!! Freedom Fries???? BUWHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAA

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, I was in France, few years ago on a school trip and that was my first encounter with those assholes. Firs of all, you think New Yorkers are rude??? tHey are downright sweethearts comparing to frenchies. The place we ate at served us fried chicken with fries. Chicken looked like pigeon, deep fried with its feathers still intact and fries were small, soggy, and nasty. The only one enjoying my meal were abundant supply of dung flies. For the rest of the trip we ate at Burger King... Fucking subway in Paris did not have a single instruction in English and for us, commuting from somewhere off of Third Triumph Arch to downtown paris it was a long hike for which we had to buy some weird ticket. Well, no instructions said that - the conductors (or whatever you call those ******s) almost fined us for 300 franks for not having the right ticket. I couldn't even explain what happened to them in english - I had to fucking tell them in Italian!!! Needless to say, I won't be visiting France anytime soon. Hope the entire fuckign world boycotts those smelly, arrogant, hairy, pussy cocksuckers. And if you're French and offended by this, honestly - FUCK YOU!

Posted by mr. poopyhead on Mar-12-2003 23:03:

^^^^

obviously they speak FRENCH in france... if a frenchman needed help in america, would you be able to help him in french? so why would you expect french people to know english????

Posted by occrider on Mar-13-2003 01:11:

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Well, wars usually are because of politics, don't you agree? And the fact is that days before war breaks out a new large bomb is developed which is designed to bring fear into the soldiers because of its huge blast. Hmm, something here reminds me of WOMDs. Hell, the US just might use a nuke over Baghdad instead, to really show who's the boss.

Tito ... bombs don't get designed overnight you know. This thing has probably been in development for several years given how long it takes for the military to go through design phases and then award the final contract. It was designed to replace the daisy cutter, 16,000 lb bomb that was used in Vietnam to clear out helicopter landing areas in the jungle, so it's not an entirely new concept. Anyway someone said that it was big but not smart ... but it's a BIG SMART bomb! It's guided by aerial fins and satellites ... not that it really needs to be smart since it's so big.

Posted by occrider on Mar-13-2003 01:15:

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0

Btw, why do you people keep bringing topics like this into the chillout room when there's a nice political debate section here also?

Agreed ... I come hear to chillout not talk politics some more!

Posted by benfica88 on Mar-13-2003 01:59:

Re: Talk about massive destruction!!!!!!

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Originally posted by tranzformer
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/11/sp...moab/index.html

this bomb is wicked.......... wow!!!!!! amazing, i would hate to mess with the USA.

I think it's more of a physchological thing really...

Posted by benfica88 on Mar-13-2003 02:05:

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Originally posted by CynepMeH
French fires!!! ahahahhahaahh!!! Freedom Fries???? BUWHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAA

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, I was in France, few years ago on a school trip and that was my first encounter with those assholes. Firs of all, you think New Yorkers are rude??? tHey are downright sweethearts comparing to frenchies. The place we ate at served us fried chicken with fries. Chicken looked like pigeon, deep fried with its feathers still intact and fries were small, soggy, and nasty. The only one enjoying my meal were abundant supply of dung flies. For the rest of the trip we ate at Burger King... Fucking subway in Paris did not have a single instruction in English and for us, commuting from somewhere off of Third Triumph Arch to downtown paris it was a long hike for which we had to buy some weird ticket. Well, no instructions said that - the conductors (or whatever you call those ******s) almost fined us for 300 franks for not having the right ticket. I couldn't even explain what happened to them in english - I had to fucking tell them in Italian!!! Needless to say, I won't be visiting France anytime soon. Hope the entire fuckign world boycotts those smelly, arrogant, hairy, pussy cocksuckers. And if you're French and offended by this, honestly - FUCK YOU!

Everytime I'm with French people I have a wonderful time. They are extremely nice and will help when needed, and are very mannerful. Maybe there so bad against Americans cause Americans expect to have everything they're way...
no offense

Posted by occrider on Mar-13-2003 02:49:

Re: Re: Talk about massive destruction!!!!!!

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Originally posted by benfica88
I think it's more of a physchological thing really...

Yes it's very impractical as a military weapon. First of all, it is carried by a VERY slow, very large, prop-driven transport plane (C-130) that anyone using a shoulder launched SAM can bring down with relative ease. Secondly, It's simply overkill in most battlefield situations. Why use a 20,000 lb bomb to destroy maybe 10 tanks when you can use 10 100kg missiles or smart bombs at a far cheaper cost. The only real practical military application is to use it as a bunker buster. There are already 4000 lb and 6000lb bunker buster bombs though. Don't expect very many of these to actually be used.

Posted by DaveSZ on Mar-13-2003 03:02:

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Originally posted by arctic
you are a sick freak, YEAH MANZ, BOMBS ARE KOOL BECAZZZZZ THEY KILLZZZZ PEOPLE AND BLOWEDDDDD DEM UP, HOMIE.

and why "screw france", imo france are spot on. George bush is a war loving, agressive, ignorant moron. Screw you more like it!

This is the proper pronunciation (just to be correct) :

YEAH MANZ, BOMBS ARE KOOL BECAZZZZZ [DEY] KILLZZZZ [PEEPZ] AND BLOWEDDDDD DEM UP, HOMIE.

Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Mar-13-2003 03:03:

I find it funny that we develop a 22,000 pound bomb and then we hardly have any planes that are capable of carrying it

What's the point in that really? Waste of technology IMO.

Posted by mndeg on Mar-13-2003 04:43:

bush said he was going to go to war without un approval and he said it would be better if there was

about the bomb, he said it was just for psychological reasons, to scare people

Posted by Muff2K on Mar-13-2003 04:54:

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Originally posted by mndeg
bush said he was going to go to war without un approval and he said it would be better if there was

about the bomb, he said it was just for psychological reasons, to scare people

as if he won't use it in Iraq

Posted by XxremedyxX on Mar-13-2003 15:15:

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
So what if US helped France. That doesn't mean that France should support every action commited by the US. As I said many times before, US helped France fight a defensive war, while is now asking the French to support them fight an offensive war. If the US was to be attacked, I am pretty sure France would support it. But US is not attacked, at least not by Iraq, so there's no reason to support the offensive. And since the US is a member of the UN, and has all the rights and priviledges UN members do (even more than most), it should also comply with its rules. Defying the UN is basically defying a global community, and I think that we should work towards creating a more united and connected planet rather than returning to the state isolationism. Besides, UN can't block a US attack on Iraq, but it can say it doesn't support it, and that's exactly what France is doing. It's not like France will use its military to counter the US. But US should be aware that the most of the world is against the action. And if they still decide to do what they intended, they will do it against the will of the global community and they will suffer economic and diplomatic consequences as an indirect result of their defying of the UN.

Btw, why do you people keep bringing topics like this into the chillout room when there's a nice political debate section here also?

Yea you got a good point. I don't mean to argue with you, we were just debating and it made me sound like i was for the war which i'm not. I'm against this war with Iraq and i think people are underestimating Iraq. I would like for Saddam to be captured or killed or watever. The French arent trying to have another World War so thats probably why they aren't backing the US, however i agree that if Iraq attacks then the French should back the US.

Posted by Greedy on Mar-13-2003 21:31:

war isnt cool, but bombs are.

Posted by Renegade on Mar-17-2003 06:28:

Posted by Muff2K on Mar-17-2003 06:48:

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Originally posted by Renegade

just another reality of war. innocents die.

but it's not like they won't have a chance to leave the city

Posted by fr0st on Mar-17-2003 06:57:

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Originally posted by Muff2K
why is one country told to disarm and another keeps developing bigger and better weapons?

They were told to disarm for a reason.......

Posted by Muff2K on Mar-17-2003 07:09:

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Originally posted by fr0st
They were told to disarm for a reason.......

that reason is????

Posted by decode on Mar-17-2003 08:09:

Who would u trust more? Bush or Saddam?

Posted by Muff2K on Mar-17-2003 08:16:

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Originally posted by decode
Who would u trust more? Bush or Saddam?

their both snakes as far as i'm concerned.

i just don't see why Iraq qon't be allowed to defend themselves at all

i dont give a fuck about saddam, but there's so many innocent people that will die.

Posted by arctic on Mar-17-2003 12:46:

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Originally posted by decode
Who would u trust more? Bush or Saddam?

about even.

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