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My opnion is this!! He is good, i really love his djeeing! In my opinion he isint a GOD as some people call him!!But he sounds mint! and i really hope he doesnt take oakies path and sell out because he doesnt deserve it! he IS talent! and he can do alot with it!!
[N]�k|��[Z] i think youve put foward some really good points and arguements. i agree with you on EVERYTHING you have said 100%. I think the armin hype will calm down after his album is released adn we realyl see what he is made of. If all his tracks are the same sounding and there are no original pieces, he's going to need a wakeup call if he really thinks people will continue to buy his material.
there's always going to be the ones that think the sun shines outta armins ass, but his sets have sucked the 2 times i have seen him live at the telewest arena, and his livesets are piss poor.
Tiesto has his haters aswell, but one thing you can say about him, is that his material ir original! how many variations of styles did he have on his album!? He tried new things and was very succesful imo. listen to system - f together album and all the tracks are the same style. im not going to start an arguement against ferry here, as he is a pioneer aswell, with tracks like punk which was very very original!!! + good 
if you compare song for the ocean to communication, blue fear or any of armins earlier releases, its pretty feable. Especially when you consider he's used dust.wav beat again for the 3rd time (also in sunburn) and it sounds so remarkably close to a pvd beat aswell. its absolutely diar!!! There are TA's on this board that are producing better tracks that this (Re-Grooved for one) I heard his track glamorize about a month ago, and its so fresh, full of originality and creativity, something which is lacking in armins latest offerings.
As for remixing, Armins remixes ALL SOUND THE FUCKIN SAME!!! his remix of time is the healer is a classic example of his unimaginativeness to another artists track. At least with tiesto and ferry, you get different styles of remixing, with armin its really rather boring, and i can almost hear the remix before its been made. If he was decent i wouldnt be able to PREDICT what his mixes would sound like.
AVB, wakeup and do something original, stop being a sheep!!!
/bitch slaps to all the neg ppl...
tsk tsk tsk.. shame on you's...
Armin gets traXX from god and plays them like a god... ASOT 88... like helloooo... have you even heard this.. OMFG... and @ 2Tribes.. we made the place X-PLOD!!!!!
He's style isn't a litle varied but hey.. thats HIS style.. does PvD's style alter very much.. nooo and ppl still love him.. like me... soo :-P
IMO...
I think Armin is doing a great job and is real with his fans. He plays great stuff, and is experimenting more with prog. His productions are top notch, and I'm looking forward to more from him. His ASOT's make my week better 
His productions are not no where near his older self thats for sure and i think he may need to revaluate his game plan in that department
On the other hand, His live sets are mint though and he has some damn good mixing! Hope he keeps all the great work up
A lot of you seem to be bored or disenchanted with trance atm.
Armin is a Trance DJ and a Trance producer....if you are bored with trance you will be bored with him. This doesnt make him a bad dj/producer
GET OVER IT! 
Armin is one of the nicest most down to earth DJ's and he is more in touch with his fans than almost any other DJ I've seen. I think that is one of the greatest things about him, regardless of what he spins.
What other DJ does anything close to what ASOT is?
What other DJ is gonna sit in a chatroom and talk with his fans, and tell them how he produced certain tracks?
calling any DJ a god is perposterous, calling any person a god is perposterous for that matter.
So no, I dont think Armin is a god, but I think he is a damn good DJ, a damn good producer, and a damn good guy.
Edit: and all you haters just wait till his new album comes out, I agree that song for the ocean isnt the greatest, but that's one song off a whole album. You'll see...
Armin will always kick ass. Remember kids, it's that "null and void" point in trance for the year.
He'll be back with a bang.
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| Originally posted by beema A lot of you seem to be bored or disenchanted with trance atm. Armin is a Trance DJ and a Trance producer....if you are bored with trance you will be bored with him. This doesnt make him a bad dj/producer GET OVER IT! Armin is one of the nicest most down to earth DJ's and he is more in touch with his fans than almost any other DJ I've seen. I think that is one of the greatest things about him, regardless of what he spins. What other DJ does anything close to what ASOT is? What other DJ is gonna sit in a chatroom and talk with his fans, and tell them how he produced certain tracks? calling any DJ a god is perposterous, calling any person a god is perposterous for that matter. So no, I dont think Armin is a god, but I think he is a damn good DJ, a damn good producer, and a damn good guy. |
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| Originally posted by beema A lot of you seem to be bored or disenchanted with trance atm. Armin is a Trance DJ and a Trance producer....if you are bored with trance you will be bored with him. This doesnt make him a bad dj/producer GET OVER IT! |
some very good comments, espically about how he should take a vacation so he doesn't burn himself.
But i dont agree with people saying that artist need to change their style, if he changes his style then he wont be Armin, he will be "Alias".
I know that his works sound the same but that is ARMIN's style. Although i agree with the fact that he should stay away from the cheese and come up with some new sounds to improve but not to change his "sound".
A very interesting topic indeed.
IMO, Armin's style was very unique when he came onto the scene. However, as time went by, he used the same bass & synth lines in most of his remixes / productions and pretty soon, they all started to sound the same. I believe that the time has come for him to take the next step and evolve his style to the next level.
That being said, I do love his DJ'ing style! 
Iio - Rapture (Armin van buuren mix) has to be my favourite vocal tune of all time ! absolutely amazing ! I don't think he has lost it lately, its just that he has lostit ! its just that he spends countless amounts of hours on his djing and he is in VERY big demand at the moment, and it is hard to keep an even balance between djing/producing ! His new album, however will be the bomb we have all been waiting for !
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| Originally posted by beema A lot of you seem to be bored or disenchanted with trance atm. Armin is a Trance DJ and a Trance producer....if you are bored with trance you will be bored with him. This doesnt make him a bad dj/producer GET OVER IT! Armin is one of the nicest most down to earth DJ's and he is more in touch with his fans than almost any other DJ I've seen. I think that is one of the greatest things about him, regardless of what he spins. What other DJ does anything close to what ASOT is? What other DJ is gonna sit in a chatroom and talk with his fans, and tell them how he produced certain tracks? calling any DJ a god is perposterous, calling any person a god is perposterous for that matter. So no, I dont think Armin is a god, but I think he is a damn good DJ, a damn good producer, and a damn good guy. Edit: and all you haters just wait till his new album comes out, I agree that song for the ocean isnt the greatest, but that's one song off a whole album. You'll see... |
My two cents:
I love Armin's production style. That said, I'd like to see him use a new bass line. Not that it's a bad thing to use it over and over (see Paul van Dyk), but hopefully there'll be some variation on the album.
Armin's live sets are another thing altogether. Having seen Armin 3 times in the past year and Tiesto, Ferry and PvD once each, I can say that NO-ONE matches van Dyk in the mixing department. But when it comes to crowd interaction and getting a few thousand people going completely nuts, Armin is way out ahead of the field. His track selection has been perhaps a little repetitive (although I have seen him 3 times in 6 months), but it's not like it's the Northern Hemisphere summer or anything atm.
Honestly, if I wanted to hear someone mix, I'll go see PvD. If I want high-energy uplifting trance, I'll see Ferry. If I want it a little harder and darker, I'll see Tiesto.
But when I want to see the DJ having the time of his life, and the crowd doing the same, Armin van Buuren is the man.
I'm personally sick of all these people whining about how trance was better 4 years ago. If they really feel that way, they should write their own tracks and stop wasting their time (and everyone elses) by making stupid posts.
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| Originally posted by SQ-K My two cents: I love Armin's production style. That said, I'd like to see him use a new bass line. Not that it's a bad thing to use it over and over (see Paul van Dyk), but hopefully there'll be some variation on the album. Armin's live sets are another thing altogether. Having seen Armin 3 times in the past year and Tiesto, Ferry and PvD once each, I can say that NO-ONE matches van Dyk in the mixing department. But when it comes to crowd interaction and getting a few thousand people going completely nuts, Armin is way out ahead of the field. His track selection has been perhaps a little repetitive (although I have seen him 3 times in 6 months), but it's not like it's the Northern Hemisphere summer or anything atm. Honestly, if I wanted to hear someone mix, I'll go see PvD. If I want high-energy uplifting trance, I'll see Ferry. If I want it a little harder and darker, I'll see Tiesto. But when I want to see the DJ having the time of his life, and the crowd doing the same, Armin van Buuren is the man. |
Well before last year i never really listened to Armin at all. I mean occasionally some of his productions but he was always second rate in my opinion, but then after ASOT came along he opened my eyes. I dunno i mean it weird i cant really express into words i mean, he may burn himself out, as a matter of fact I stopped listening to ASOT, im tired of yet another day, so i guess he very well may. I mean its a very well known formula not to over expose your self and Armin is floating the line between getting over the hump and over exposure, well see what he does this summer.
Armin has been my favorite DJ and producer for a very long time, and in fact he still is!
In my opinion he's one of the last real 'trancers' out there, and therefore I hope he doesn't change his style too much in future! His DJ skills are awesome and his album will be surely great.
Seen him twice in about 5 months....he needs to change it up more.
Still a class act though.
i think as a producer he's not the most amazing out there, also needs a bit more originality.. Blue Fear and Communication were amazing at its time, now it's just another good uplifting tunes (I like Song For The Ocean btw). But as a DJ he's the best of the trance scene IMO. Tiesto is inovating and exploring new subgenres as tech-trance, but his sets seem to be just tunes in random order with not-so-great mixing; Ferry never was amazing, just anthems after anthems; Oakenfold is a pop star; Van Dyk is probably the one who can compete with Armin, but I personally don't like his style..
If it wasn't for Armin, good old uplifting could be dead by now. He's the only consistent dj mixing trance old-style. He's not a pioneer, but he doesn't need to be.
no one can be the best forever, you gotta let new talented ppl on the stage 2.
Just listened to a rip of Song of the Ocean and it's actually not that bad - in fact it seems quite different (more subdued) to some of his other stuff. Mind you at the end it is mixed into Sunburn, which is in the same key and has almost the same bassline
Armin is Armin is Armin. As stated he produces his style and that suits my tastes.
Re his ability to DJ; a 4 hour set @ Gas in Sydney a matter of weeks ago so flawless mixing, and a tracklist that was up there with anything i've EVER heard.....moving is an understatment.....finishing with the hiver and hammer remix of yet another day. Talk about epic. Oh by the way, he did that with one hell of a cold. He was really sick as confirmed in an interview before hand and a friend talking 2 him in dutch to his g/f asking how was armin feeling.
Armin plays the style of progressive trance into epic/uplifting trance that I LOVE. To me Armin is god.
If Armin produced another style I'd hope he'd call hime sell Nimra or something because it wouldn't be armin.
Can't please everyone all the time But he's certianly pleased me and many other like myself from the AU.TA Massive.
--djway
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As for remixing, Armins remixes ALL SOUND THE FUCKIN SAME!!! his remix of time is the healer is a classic example of his unimaginativeness to another artists track. At least with tiesto and ferry, you get different styles of remixing, with armin its really rather boring, and i can almost hear the remix before its been made. If he was decent i wouldnt be able to PREDICT what his mixes would sound like. AVB, wakeup and do something original, stop being a sheep!!! |
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| Originally posted by ambrus07 NEll, you're one of the most negative posters i think i've ever read! Every other word out of your mouth seems to be about the downfall of something or someone that is well established in today's trance world.. one needs only look at your sig, or read your posts. No one here is saying Armin never makes mistakes. All his remixes sound the same? THat's because he found a sound that people liked, and which sounded good!! IF you think Armin sucks so bad, come up with something better on your own! Besides, ALL DJS stick to one original sound that they create!! omfg! look at Solar Stone! Look at PvD! If you listen to Politics of Dnacing or Out There and Back, you will find THE SAME BEATS AND BASSLINES! That is because they are GOOD. Even your beloved MAtt Darey used the SAME FUCKEN bassline for all of his most famous productions. That's what trance is like. If you dont like it, come up with something better, or listen to something else. |
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