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I was simply trying to say that I feel that if the "Iraqi" people want to change their flag, they have every right to.
I am NOT saying the US should implement a new flag on their own, that would be a disrespectful gesture on the part of America.
We are not there to occupy or for purposes of colonization, we are there to liberate them from Saddam's Baath party. As Yoepus so nicely hammered my point across!
To all you flamers...
why would the iraqi people want to change their flags. 
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| Originally posted by tranced_out why would the iraqi people want to change their flags. |
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| Originally posted by melech_mike I was simply trying to say that i feel that if the "Iraqi" people want to change their flag, they have every right to. I am NOT saying the US should impliament a new flag on ethir own, that would be a disrespectful gesture on the part of America. We are not there to occupy or perpouses of colonization, we are there to liberate them from Saddam's Baath party. As Yoepus so nicely hammered my point accross! To all you flamers... |
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 lol are you american as well ? maybe british ? |
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 lol are you american as well ? maybe british ? |
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| Originally posted by melech_mike No, but i am part russian, part spanish, and have many ancestors from Iran, Iraq, Turkey, and Azerbajan(sp?). Do i get US citizenship if i marry an american girl? |
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| Originally posted by occrider Yes |
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| Originally posted by melech_mike FUCKIN' AWESOME!!!! Soon I'll be able to call myself an American!!! |
but that's just me hahaha
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 i would be ashamed but that's just me hahaha |
well ... to each his own in this world , respect to everybody
22 years as an American and no shame yet!
The Israeli Prime Minister was convicted of killing thousands of innocent Palestinian people, does that wanna make u change the Israeli flag.
The American Gov't has been responsible for killing millions of Iraqi children over the past 10 years, due to the trade embargo on Iraq. Does that make the American people wanna change their flag. ??
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| Originally posted by tranced_out The Israeli Prime Minister was convicted of killing thousands of innocent Palestinian people, does that wanna make u change the Israeli flag. The American Gov't has been responsible for killing millions of Iraqi children over the past 10 years, due to the trade embargo on Iraq. Does that make the American people wanna change their flag. ?? |
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| Originally posted by Yoepus Is that such a hard argument to understand? And furthermore don't you believe it should be up to the Iraqi people wether they want to change it or not? I think it is up to them, not you, not me. I think it is very "imperialistic" of you to say (or imply) they have to keep it one way or the other. |
Yoepus isn't even coming close to SAYING that there should be flag change! Read his post carefully before you all get up in arms to critisize him. He's replying to my statement that the only time that a flag could be considered offensive if it was constructed out of hatrid, racism, etc. I used the nazi flag for an example which portrayed the swastika as a symbol of Aryan superiority.
Yoepus then commented that the new Iraqi flag COULD (not for certain) be considered as a symbol of hatred and such since it was implemented at the time of Saddam's rise to power. That it was a reflection of Saddam's oppressive Baath party as opposed to a reflection of the Iraqi people. Therefore giving justification to the point that a flag change would not be unwarranted if the Iraqi people so desired. There's no disrespect in his argument at all.
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| Originally posted by occrider Yoepus isn't even coming close to SAYING that there should be flag change! Read his post carefully before you all get up in arms to critisize him. He's replying to my statement that the only time that a flag could be considered offensive if it was constructed out of hatrid, racism, etc. I used the nazi flag for an example which portrayed the swastika as a symbol of Aryan superiority. Yoepus then commented that the new Iraqi flag COULD (not for certain) be considered as a symbol of hatred and such since it was implemented at the time of Saddam's rise to power. That it was a reflection of Saddam's oppressive Baath party as opposed to a reflection of the Iraqi people. Therefore giving justification to the point that a flag change would not be unwarranted if the Iraqi people so desired. There's no disrespect in his argument at all. |
Melech.. changing the flag means changing the culture also. If the USA even thinks about it, I'll throw up so bad!!!!!!!!PUKEEE!!!! will really make me seek... The USA has no right to go into other countries and changing their way of living and cultures in which they were raised on.. I think the US wants it all just one color..imagine the US going to ISRAEL and changing your ways of life.. saying that you guys shouldnt walk on fridays .. and realize that it's bad for woamn( stupid statement there) but it's something similar that you want the US to do IN other countries, culture, and among that it's the FLAG
Why is everybody speculating and getting so upset over something that hasn't even happend yet? Why don't we retire this thread until it DOES happen. Otherwise we're all wasting our breath arguing over this silly issue which probably WON'T happen hehe.
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| Originally posted by occrider Why is everybody speculating and getting so upset over something that hasn't even happend yet? Why don't we retire this thread until it DOES happen. Otherwise we're all wasting our breath arguing over this silly issue which probably WON'T happen hehe. |
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| Originally posted by LiquidX Melech.. changing the flag means changing the culture also. If the USA even thinks about it, I'll throw up so bad!!!!!!!!PUKEEE!!!! will really make me seek... The USA has no right to go into other countries and changing their way of living and cultures in which they were raised on.. I think the US wants it all just one color..imagine the US going to ISRAEL and changing your ways of life.. saying that you guys shouldnt walk on fridays .. and realize that it's bad for woamn( stupid statement there) but it's something similar that you want the US to do IN other countries, culture, and among that it's the FLAG |
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| Originally posted by melech_mike I NEVER SAID THE USA SHOULD INITIATE A CHANGE IN IRAQS FLAG!!!!!! FUCK YOU GUYS ARE........................ Read shit carefully before you stupidly post anything Nrg2Nfinit and LiquidX. That applies to everyone. I specifically said it should be up to the "IRAQI PEOPLE"!!!! Do not put words in my mouth, as i do not put shit in yours! |
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| Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit i never said that .. i said you shouldnt even bother bringing it up because its disrespectful and dont call me stupid |
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| Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit haha.. its just a simple way of saying.. LOOK WE TOOK OVER THIS IS THE NEW FLAG |
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| Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit its unheard of to strip a country of its flag.. |
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| Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit what would be the purpose of changing the flag? REPRESENT SOMETHING NEW? yah.. lets take over their country and tell them.. look your culture and history means nothing start over. |
your the one that brought up the whole idea of a flag change.. what a ridiculous gesture.. i dont know what made you think of it in the first place
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