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Originally posted by JayD Someone explain something. Everyone always likes to say Creatine builds water muscle & not solid. Also if your trying to get cut & build muscle at the same time. Wouldn't whey protien be a good supplement all the same? JaY

creatine and whey are 2 different things, as far as i know.

whey could be said to be a good supplement, but protein from meat and dairy sources is better

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Originally posted by JayD Everyone always likes to say Creatine builds water muscle & not solid. JaY

Initially creatine will give you a gain of water weight, that's true. But the true purpose of creatine is to increase the intensity of your workouts and that is what will lead to actually gaining more muscle.

The biology of the process is this:

During an anaerobic activity (Weightlifting) your body uses ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate) for fuel. As your body goes through the exercises it breaks down the ATP to ADP (adenosine di-phosphate) and that process is what gives off the energy to fuel your muscles. So when you breakdown all your ATP to ADP that is when your muscles become fatigued and you can no longer move the weight. This is where creatine steps in and provides a phosphate for your ADP allowing it to go back to its original form, ATP. Thus you have another ATP to burn and a little more energy to get that one or two extra reps. That is where the true muscle building properties of creatine come into play.

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Originally posted by diego whey could be said to be a good supplement, but protein from meat and dairy sources is better

Generally, whey has a higher biological value than meat or dairy. Dairy is usually considered a secondary protein and unless meat is eaten raw, you denature the protein by cooking it and lower it's biological value.

Man this thread motivates me every time I see it...When I decide to get to it, I will be hyper motivated and will work out intensely for about two or three weeks, jogging almost every day and doing a basic workout at home. I allow myself at least one day a week where I can eat junk food and pastry just so that I dont go nuts and it usually works out pretty well...

But I find myself confronted with a problem every time.... After a couple of weeks, I suddently feel a huge need to eat a lot of unhealthy food, like I wanna drive to McDonalds and stuff my face so bad, and that is usually accompanied by intermittent sugar rushes, like I gotta eat a box of cookies or several chocolate bars to calm it down... at that point I cant seem to help control myself, its like I need to eat to kill time.. I try to keep working out anyway but since I'm swallowing all those carbs I become less motivated... then I keep that up until I find the motivation to resume working out normally, but I can stay with that urge to eat shit for 2-3 weeks..

I tought leaving myself 1 day a week where I can eat pretty much what I want would do the trick, but it appears like its not enough, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong... could it be caused by the fact that my body needs some time to adapt to a more healthy lifestyle? For I admit I've been stressed a lot last winter and ate a lot of fastfood.. and often at irregular times.

any suggestions?

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Originally posted by N|te-L|fe Man this thread motivates me every time I see it...When I decide to get to it, I will be hyper motivated and will work out intensely for about two or three weeks, jogging almost every day and doing a basic workout at home. I allow myself at least one day a week where I can eat junk food and pastry just so that I dont go nuts and it usually works out pretty well... But I find myself confronted with a problem every time.... After a couple of weeks, I suddently feel a huge need to eat a lot of unhealthy food, like I wanna drive to McDonalds and stuff my face so bad, and that is usually accompanied by intermittent sugar rushes, like I gotta eat a box of cookies or several chocolate bars to calm it down... at that point I cant seem to help control myself, its like I need to eat to kill time.. I try to keep working out anyway but since I'm swallowing all those carbs I become less motivated... then I keep that up until I find the motivation to resume working out normally, but I can stay with that urge to eat shit for 2-3 weeks.. I tought leaving myself 1 day a week where I can eat pretty much what I want would do the trick, but it appears like its not enough, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong... could it be caused by the fact that my body needs some time to adapt to a more healthy lifestyle? For I admit I've been stressed a lot last winter and ate a lot of fastfood.. and often at irregular times. any suggestions?

what do you want to acheive from working out?

Id say cut it out completely. Guess how much fast food Ive had in the last year. Zero. Because its cheap and delicious and ruins you. A compromise is a weakening of your standards. You need to start turning those sugar cravings around. You need that sugar? Grab a pear or an apple. The natural sugar is better for you and gives you a longer high.

Learn to cook for yourself. Make your own teryaki with a chicken breast and some mushrooms with dill over rice and sauce. So easy. So delicious. and so good for you

Working out hard immediately sets you apart from most people. So dont still try to live in their fat little world and eat all the shit they do. Its a different life. I know that if im on a trip to see some buddies who live 100 miles away and we all get roaring drunk and want food we will probably go to Jack in the Box. Ill get chicken sandwiches, but still not exactly good for you. Thats the only time Ill slip. But I know that its ok because its 1 time a year or so hehe. Most of the time we have cheese sandwiches ready to fry before we drink

anyways, the point is if you are eating right, you wont have any cravings during the day. The night time is the worst for cravings, but keep your ass out of the kitchen.

agreed, hit it hard.

Garbage in = garbage out.

dont deprive yourself of all cravings. Just dont go overboard

I need some good ideas for snack foods. Like when I am working and go on break what should I buy to eat, same goes for at home when I want a snack. Also, what is a good breakfest?

My breakfast sandwich is nummy. Its a toasted bagel with some mayo and mustard. put down 4 slices of deli sliced turkey. Then put a sunny side egg on it with pepper and salt. Then some tomato slices..then some lettuce. On the top half spread 1/4-1/2 of an avacado on it making it into a paste. Then put the top on and eat. Wash down with tea.

For snacks I usually just eat fruit, or a few slices of turkey rolled up inside of a lettuce leaf with a stripe of mustard.

snacks

Protein bars
Meal replacement shakes
Yogurt
I do cottage cheese
Fiber bars

breakfast

omlett (limit amount of yolks you use)put tons of veggies in it.
egg whites
wheat cereals
fruits
its tuff breakfast, I do the same thing for break fast

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Originally posted by Evil_Gnome Also, what is a good breakfest?

Raw oats mixed with applesauce!

my diet is mainly protein. oddly, I don't need much carbs. doesn't matter how much carbs I eat. I could gobble pounds of chocolate or pounds of veggies for weeks and my weight and energy level won't change that much. but if I slack off on the protein I can feel the spike of energy drop quite fast.

there are some supplements I used for my diet. I tend to stay away from synthetic isolates because of the lack of standization and most are junk that hardly much is assimilated. chelated ones are alright. I like near-natural products like oils from cod, herring, flax, sesame, pumpkin, etc.. I use brown, unrefined rice and organic quinoa for staple foods.

I love oils. I use flower essences, gem essences, homeopathics, and herbs (weed as one of them hehe). I'm figuring out which method is best for inhalation too. one is ultrasonic, the other is vaporization.

I tend to progressively use a wholistic approach and ditching most of the synthetics out there.

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Originally posted by Evil_Gnome Also, what is a good breakfest?

Have a look at DigitalMP's diet I've been following his for the last 2 weeks, and I'm loving it!

So now I have two breakfasts everyday, with a two hour diff between each breakfast.

Breakfast 1.
1 cup of oats (oats being the best low GI carb)
Combine 1 small bannana, 2 table spoons of yoghurt, and blend with a blender. Pour it onto your oats, let if sit for 2 minutes and eat!

Breakfast 2.(2hours later)
-As above- except this time use a bigger bannana and two cups of oats

Fwaor

you can buy a cheap vegetable steamer at your local dollar or department store that will make cooking vegetables, rice, and other itmes very easy. This simple product has gotten me into eating healhty only because of its convenience. I think steaming is also the ideal way to cook your food, so as to keep the most nutrients?

You all still get sore after workouts?

The first time I know you get really sore, then the next week after while I did the same routine I didn't become sore anymore (which makes me feel at times as if I'm not doing it right).

What are your experiences?

JaY

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Originally posted by JayD You all still get sore after workouts? The first time I know you get really sore, then the next week after while I did the same routine I didn't become sore anymore (which makes me feel at times as if I'm not doing it right). What are your experiences? JaY

Soreness is not an indicator of a good workout or muscle growth. I can't remember the last time my biceps were sore. Only after a low volume squat workout do I still get sore.

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Originally posted by JayD You all still get sore after workouts? JaY

I still get sore quite a bit. I relish the feeling. Generally the muscles that you exercise eccentrically will get more sore than those that are exercised concentrically.

Hamstrings are a good example for me. No muscle on my body gets as sore as my hamstrings when I do stiff-legged deadlifts.

I guess that's why doing "negative" reps are so intense.

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Originally posted by diego what do you want to acheive from working out?

Mainly losing weight, then toning out the muscles.. I dont care about looking like Arnold, or being ripped with a 6-pak and all.. I just wanna feel good with myself

And I dunno about cutting out the carbs completely, I know this will just cause bigger carvings at some point, but my main question is will they disappear gradually, like its just harder the first times but after a while you dont feel that need to eat junk food as much? I've been told its like trying to quit smoking, you gotta give it up slowly, not drastically in one shot...

I've started working out and doing cardio in the morning around 7, since it's summer . I've heard that exercising on an empty tank in the morning ups the fat burning potential, since your body draws off sugars and glucose stores as energy, and in the morning, you have less sugar in your system. Do you guys think it's all right to take my multivitamin pill and SAN Tight (a thermogenic supplement) pre-workout without food, since I wanted to eat AFTER my workout? I think this way is more effective than washing the pills down with a pre-workout shake, but then again, I'm not too sure. Suggestions?

most vitamins and supplements need to be taken with food. They are pretty intense packets and better eaten with food to help disperse them. Many people get nauseous when takin vitamins w/out food.

God...

here has been my diet since monday:


1 plate of BBQ nachos

20 beers

more nachos

a pizza

Tuesday same thing but 16 beers

wednesday same thing 18 beers

Thursday same thing more arbys a fifth of Rum

Friday: Drank 5 gatorades. this took me until 6pm. At which point my body rejected them and I threw them up. Began digesting food at 9. Ate arbys.

Today: An apple! yay im healthy again lol.

except im going camping tonight

Ah well. I needed a week off of life.

my story is over now.

I want to lose some weight and I'm putting myself on a 2000-2200 calorie diet and going to the gym 4 times a week. I have my "routine" at the gym all square away, but I'm not sure what and when I should be eating. Some people are telling me to have smaller meals separated apart by 3-4 hours, so essentially I'd be eating 4-5 times a day. Anyone wanna recommend me stuff?

Imagine the analogy of taking a drying machine and shoving wet towels into it until you can barely close the door

This is called "eating in America" and has the same effect on you. By splitting into smaller meals you balance your consumption and keep metabolic rate homogenous. I would definitely say that eating more often and less amount helps stave off cravings later. Just eat veggies or something if you DO get a craving

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also dont eat after about 6:30 pm

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Originally posted by Galapidate I want to lose some weight and I'm putting myself on a 2000-2200 calorie diet and going to the gym 4 times a week. I have my "routine" at the gym all square away, but I'm not sure what and when I should be eating. Some people are telling me to have smaller meals separated apart by 3-4 hours, so essentially I'd be eating 4-5 times a day. Anyone wanna recommend me stuff?

I usually eat 6 meals a day, seperated by 2-3 hours each. Keep your carbs to a minimum at night, and never eat a high fat/carb meal. Look to have a decent amount of protein in each meal.

protein shakes
protein bars
and meal replacement shakes are your friends.

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