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Posted by rooibos on Dec-23-2004 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
ory, you should be exiled,

and aplz, gee, i wonder when you will blurt out more of those fun deragatory remarks, just crawl back from the dchub that you came from and while you at it go release some more tracks from the ammatuer forum, using such big and strong langueage coming from you requires a bigger internet penis

I refuse to even reply to that with a decent response.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
So I didn't get an answer. Would Luke Chable's four on the floor mixes be considered mcprog? Hernan Cattaneo? Tilt - The World Doesn't Know? If not, they all are prog with melodies, which is how you derivate McProg, right? I'm just curious. Anyone who thinks "Ride" is crap has shitty taste, IMO.

chable is crap
the world doesn't know is crap
and ride is crap

any other questions?

Posted by Jasperovitsj on Dec-23-2004 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
chable is crap

That's a bit too harsh no?

Posted by rooibos on Dec-23-2004 21:39:

Chable is about as good as The Backstreet Boys; One hit wonder.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
That's a bit too harsh no?

maybe but a lot of his stuff is way over played & over hyped...aka burma

Posted by NiteMer on Dec-23-2004 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
maybe but a lot of his stuff is way over played & over hyped...aka burma

Go buy another Van Dyk record.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Go buy another Van Dyk record.

suprisingly my last few purchases have been prog

Posted by rooibos on Dec-23-2004 21:48:

You've been sucked into the shithole too? I mean, prog hole.

Posted by Jasperovitsj on Dec-23-2004 21:48:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
maybe but a lot of his stuff is way over played & over hyped...aka burma

True, but in his case the quality of his productions and remixes remains - most of the times - of a very high level, regerdless of the hyping. I think his tracks being overplayed is actually just the consequence of them being so good, rather than the name Chable or the label they appear on. Which can IMO not be said about the great part of McProg artists...

And I got Steve May - Open day (Luke Chable's quakes & craters remix) on right now, most likely followed by his remix for Gwill Morris' Time, and after that The Shepherd. Three completely different productions, all showing his talent IMO!

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
True, but in his case the quality of his productions and remixes remains - most of the times - of a very high level. Which can IMO not be said about the great part of McProg artists...

And I got Steve May - Open day (Luke Chable's quakes & craters remix) on right now, most likely followed by his remix for Gwill Morris' Time, and after that The Shepherd. Three completely different productions, all showing his talent IMO!

i liked may's orig version a bit more...
but i did like bass trap last year

he has a lot of un needed tracks like his remix of david, and your light...

maby i just dont like the blend of bbeat & prog, makes alot of stuff sound kinda cheezy

Posted by wolverine16 on Dec-23-2004 22:01:

This thread STILL hasn't died? Let the people who like ASOT enjoy listening right now while those who don't listen to Sasha or Holden or whatever else. There's enough room on TA for a number of different subgenres to coexist, though maybe not as easily as if there were forums for each one, but still.

About 400+ posts the only thing that's been accomplished is maybe a few people put out suggestions of what they like instead of "McProg" and some McProggers will check it out and add to their tastes or change a bit, but the vast majority of posts simply denouncing it does little. If people actually change their minds and don't like something just because others say it's not cool anymore is just as lame as liking something only because it's popular.

I personally like a number of different subgenres of EDM and will keep it that way. This includes some McProg songs, which I treat like when McDonald's has 49 cent cheeseburger days, it's simple and great for the first 4 or 5, then you take a break when you're full.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 22:03:

did all of u like luke's remix of bloodlock??

Posted by rooibos on Dec-23-2004 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16
This thread STILL hasn't died?

It needs to. Seems TA is short a few active mods in these sections.

Posted by Jasperovitsj on Dec-23-2004 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
did all of u like luke's remix of bloodlock??

We all know he didn't make that one

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
We all know he didn't make that one

:P im sure 99% of the people that posted in the thread thinks he did...

Posted by noikeee on Dec-23-2004 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Solkanar512
So for those of you folks who hate what they are hearing on GDJB/ASOT, why aren't you folks promoting other weekly shows? Why don't I see weekly threads for other artists you folks feel are contributing in a positive manner to trance music/EDM in general?

Cause I've been freaked out forever from internet radio after being involved in a project that resulted in a complete fiasco, and because i feel the massive overhyping of weekly radio shows does more harm than good.

quote:
II mean, it's easy to say something is better or worse, but what about actually showing us what sounds good to you? Then the rest of us can see the difference, and make up our own minds. If that music is truly better, then shows such as these will only make your case stronger.

Check the link in my sig, there's plenty of recommendations in there, and you'll find most of the people that don't like what armin or markus is playing ocasionally praise their favourite tracks here and there.

Posted by noikeee on Dec-23-2004 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by rooibos
Chable is about as good as The Backstreet Boys; One hit wonder.

I'm sorry, but regardless of taste that's just complete bullshit.

Luke Chable - Sealers Cove
Luke Chable - Melburn
Chable & Fernandez - Come To Me
Nubreed and Luke Chable - One Day (Luke Chable Dub)
Trafik - Your Light (Luke Chable Remix)
Son Kite - Colours (Luke Chable Remix)
Gus Gus - David (Luke Chable Remix)
Steve May - Open Day (Luke Chable's Quakes & Craters Mix)
Lostep - Burma
Shpongle - Dorset Perception (Lostep Balearic Breaks Re-Edit)
The Quest - The Shepherd
Chable & Bonicci - Ride

Unless you were joking.

Posted by NiteMer on Dec-23-2004 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
True, but in his case the quality of his productions and remixes remains - most of the times - of a very high level, regerdless of the hyping. I think his tracks being overplayed is actually just the consequence of them being so good, rather than the name Chable or the label they appear on. Which can IMO not be said about the great part of McProg artists...

And I got Steve May - Open day (Luke Chable's quakes & craters remix) on right now, most likely followed by his remix for Gwill Morris' Time, and after that The Shepherd. Three completely different productions, all showing his talent IMO!

I played his mix of Open Day last night at a breaks night. I still think I prefer the original though. Finally got my hands on The Shepherd recently too. Love that track. What about "One Day"? It's very different, with it's analog sounds. He really does have a vast variety of productions out there.

Bloodluck, Chable's. That's funny. I guess I know what you mean with it's ambient synths, but c'mon.

Posted by NiteMer on Dec-23-2004 22:33:

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
I'm sorry, but regardless of taste that's just complete bullshit.

Luke Chable - Sealers Cove
Luke Chable - Melburn
Chable & Fernandez - Come To Me
Nubreed and Luke Chable - One Day (Luke Chable Dub)
Trafik - Your Light (Luke Chable Remix)
Son Kite - Colours (Luke Chable Remix)
Gus Gus - David (Luke Chable Remix)
Steve May - Open Day (Luke Chable's Quakes & Craters Mix)
Lostep - Burma
Shpongle - Dorset Perception (Lostep Balearic Breaks Re-Edit)
The Quest - The Shepherd
Chable & Bonicci - Ride

Unless you were joking.

honestly i dont feel any of thoes are the "omfg" productions they are made out to be. They are solidly produced, but if you want to compair them to some of the best progressive tracks produced over the past fiew years i dont think they are remotely close. Ride imo is even a "filler" tipe track. It has a funky bassline, with an alright melody over it, but it doesnt go anywhere. I just like tracks with a bigger punch and better flow to them...

Posted by Jantjeuh on Dec-23-2004 22:47:

Posted by noikeee on Dec-23-2004 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
honestly i dont feel any of thoes are the "omfg" productions they are made out to be. They are solidly produced, but if you want to compair them to some of the best progressive tracks produced over the past fiew years i dont think they are remotely close. Ride imo is even a "filler" tipe track. It has a funky bassline, with an alright melody over it, but it doesnt go anywhere. I just like tracks with a bigger punch and better flow to them...

I guess that does depend on taste. I don't think Chable is *the* best producer out there, and he's neither too far from "mc/american/miami prog" while not being part of it. What pissed me off was saying he's a one hit wonder, when he has already a big bunch of tracks that were respected by a lot of people.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
I guess that does depend on taste. I don't think Chable is *the* best producer out there, and he's neither too far from "mc/american/miami prog" while not being part of it. What pissed me off was saying he's a one hit wonder, when he has already a big bunch of tracks that were respected by a lot of people.

a lot of people on here make him out to be *the* best.

Posted by NiteMer on Dec-23-2004 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
honestly i dont feel any of thoes are the "omfg" productions they are made out to be. They are solidly produced, but if you want to compair them to some of the best progressive tracks produced over the past fiew years i dont think they are remotely close. Ride imo is even a "filler" tipe track. It has a funky bassline, with an alright melody over it, but it doesnt go anywhere. I just like tracks with a bigger punch and better flow to them...

So, you like trance, then? Name some prog tracks that fall under the guidelines you just set, please. All I can say is that everytime I have dropped "Ride" out, at a club or party, people go crazy and they make their way to the dancefloor. If I can get that reaction from a track, I will play it, regardless of people on TA's opinions. But it is a question of taste. I can understand some people not liking it. Just don't tell me it's poorly produced.

Has anyone heard James Talk - "Eggs Are Cute"?

Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-23-2004 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
So, you like trance, then? Name some prog tracks that fall under the guidelines you just set, please. All I can say is that everytime I have dropped "Ride" out, at a club or party, people go crazy and they make their way to the dancefloor. If I can get that reaction from a track, I will play it, regardless of people on TA's opinions. But it is a question of taste. I can understand some people not liking it. Just don't tell me it's poorly produced.

Has anyone heard James Talk - "Eggs Are Cute"?

people still go crazy to rap music ...

i heard markus play eggs are cute like a year or 2 ago, but i dont remember it...

a shot list of prog ive liked and own

Tone Depth - Roumble Fish
Dousk - Life Under
Martin Accorsi & Tim Skinner - Playing For Digweed
Mara - Fall From Grace
Oliver Klein & Peter Jurgens - Border Colour
Evolution - Walking On Fire
Chris Lake - Hiatus
all of breeder's stuff(not really prog)
Blue Haze - Into Nothing
Flash Brothers - Protect The Sense
Jase From Outta Space - Do What You Want (Max Graham Afterhours In Montreal Mix) may be my fav track this year
D-Formation Vs. Riva - Work Together
Fitalic - Realistic
Luzon - The Baguio Track
Voyager - time travel
Bedrock - Beautiful Strange may be my fav prog track
most of chris fortier/luke fair's stuff is sold...

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