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Posted by wienerschnitzel on Nov-12-2009 16:28:

well this may sound awkward, but my gran is dying of lung cancer in toronto general.. and if she passes on before i'm 8 months pregnant, then i really hope rowan and i will fly out for the funeral. it will be in toronto, but i hope to spend some time with my aunt and uncle in barrie, i miss that place! i don't get on too well with my cousins anymore so i think we should totally get together.. we'll see how it goes. i'm beyond being sad for my gran, she's had dementia for the last 8 years and she's in alot of pain with the cancer.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-12-2009 16:30:

Aw, sorry to hear. Hopefully she doesn't suffer for much longer...that's no way to spend the end of one's life.

Whatever happens...let me know, especially of course if you do end up this way.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Nov-12-2009 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
Your daughter is SO freaking cute. While I was in the bookstore the other day I saw an author with your daughters name and though "awe Wiener!"



Posted by squirrelly on Nov-12-2009 17:01:

I'm so sorry to hear about your Grandma

That's one of my biggest fears (dementia)


Posted by Slylee on Nov-12-2009 17:04:

sorry to hear that weiner


and awesome pics


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Nov-12-2009 17:11:

people get old and then die, dementia is a cruel thing that has stripped her of all dignity and i honestly wish she'd died a long time ago. I appreciate the condolences but they aren't necessary. (hopefully i'll remember to wear these big girl panties on the day she actually dies..)


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-12-2009 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
I'm so sorry to hear about your Grandma

That's one of my biggest fears (dementia)





Is there any history of it in your family? There's pretty strong hereditary links, but nothing conclusive. The other major contributing factor is environment. Things like alcoholism, low socio-economic status, lower education levels, etc. Oh and head and/or brain trauma, including strokes.

Dementia is sort of a "use it or lose" type thing. Keep your mind healthy and active and you increase your chances of preventing it. Stay busy in old age with hobbies and things you find mentally stimulating, and maintain strong emotional and social supports. And of course have a good diet and get lots of exercise.


There was a study done a while ago with some nuns who donated their brains to science after they died, and although they did not present with any symptoms of dementia while they were alive, their brains had atrophied. Why? Because they were active in their church and community, and had rich lives filled with activity of all sorts. So even though physiologically they had damaged brains, it never showed up.

The brain is amazing. It will compensate using other areas when it's been damaged. That's why with stroke patients, for example, it is essential to start rehab RIGHT away.


Posted by Slylee on Nov-12-2009 18:13:

my boss had a stroke at 30 years old and man she is fuckin SLOW. i mean i love her but goddamnit it's frustrating dealing with her sometimes because i'm extremely quick minded and just a quick thinker, quick everything overall, and she gets so side tracked and forgetful and even talks slow when telling a story.

drives me nuts lol


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-12-2009 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i'm extremely quick minded and just a quick thinker, quick everything overall


Welcome to the affects of drugs on the brain.


Posted by squirrelly on Nov-12-2009 18:51:

Actually Jenny I don't know - a lot of my family died in the war. My Grandmother died when I was younger because she drank herself to death. My dad's side has a history of bad medical problems but I don't think dementia is among them. It just scares the living shit out of me.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-12-2009 19:01:

I hear that. Talk to any older person and ask them what's most important to their health, and they'll tell you it's their mind/mental health/cognitive health. Without it, you lose your autonomy - which is obviously extremely important not only to seniors, but to everyone.


Posted by squirrelly on Nov-12-2009 19:05:

It's actually my boyfriends biggest fear as well. Every time we see a movie where one of the characters gets dementia (notebook and away from her - which on second thought might have just been Alzheimer's) it rattles us to the bone because we never want it to be that when he looks at me, I have no idea who he is - or vice versa. That is THE scariest thing to me.


Posted by RandomGirl on Nov-12-2009 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
I hear that. Talk to any older person and ask them what's most important to their health, and they'll tell you it's their mind/mental health/cognitive health. Without it, you lose your autonomy - which is obviously extremely important not only to seniors, but to everyone.


Majoring in Psychology has really drilled this point home for me. It's kinda scary how fragile the mind is and how we are so ok with partaking in the destruction of it.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-12-2009 19:14:

Alzheimer's IS dementia though. Dementia is just the umbrella term. Alzheimer's is the most common form of dementia.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-12-2009 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Alzheimer's IS dementia though. Dementia is just the umbrella term. Alzheimer's is the most common form of dementia.

The more you know!

That is interesting though. They never say that. Here in the US they make it as if dementia is some extreme form of Alzheimer's or as if it is unrelated. At least that is the impression I have always gotten.


Posted by squirrelly on Nov-12-2009 19:25:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
The more you know!

That is interesting though. They never say that. Here in the US they make it as if dementia is some extreme form of Alzheimer's or as if it is unrelated. At least that is the impression I have always gotten.


Yea +1 on that!

I always thought they were remarkably similar, but it always seems as though they have a clear defined line and somehow they are different.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-12-2009 19:27:

Haha, wow. Yeah Dementia covers all forms of, well, dementia..lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dement...essive_dementia


I've seen Lewy Bodies a few times. It's fucking violent and awful as hell. :/


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-12-2009 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
Yea +1 on that!

I always thought they were remarkably similar, but it always seems as though they have a clear defined line and somehow they are different.

Same here. And I enjoy reading and understanding medical things too, but never really looked into Alzheimer's and dementia.

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Haha, wow. Yeah Dementia covers all forms of, well, dementia..lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dement...essive_dementia


I've seen Lewy Bodies a few times. It's fucking violent and awful as hell. :/

That is crazy!


Posted by Omega_Blue on Nov-12-2009 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
The more you know!

That is interesting though. They never say that. Here in the US they make it as if dementia is some extreme form of Alzheimer's or as if it is unrelated. At least that is the impression I have always gotten.


that, or that alzheimer's will eventually progress into dementia after a long enough period of time


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-12-2009 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
that, or that alzheimer's will eventually progress into dementia after a long enough period of time

See, I haven't even heard that before. I know my great grandfather had Alzheimer's, but I don't ever remember hearing dementia being thrown around.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-12-2009 20:10:

quote:
Originally posted by squirrelly
It's actually my boyfriends biggest fear as well. Every time we see a movie where one of the characters gets dementia (notebook and away from her - which on second thought might have just been Alzheimer's) it rattles us to the bone because we never want it to be that when he looks at me, I have no idea who he is - or vice versa. That is THE scariest thing to me.


Apparently nicotine and caffine use are corolated to lower instances of dementia... but that may just be because they're also corolated to a higher probability of a whole bunch of other shit that will kill you first. The good news is; if I make it to my old age I should be alright!


Posted by squirrelly on Nov-12-2009 20:11:



Then apparently - us, too!


Posted by RandomGirl on Nov-12-2009 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
caffine use are corolated to lower instances of dementia...


Sweet... reason 23409823 to keep my Tims addiction


Posted by Slylee on Nov-12-2009 21:07:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Is there any history of it in your family? There's pretty strong hereditary links, but nothing conclusive. The other major contributing factor is environment. Things like alcoholism, low socio-economic status, lower education levels, etc. Oh and head and/or brain trauma, including strokes.



that makes me feel better. no one in my family has alzheimers. my nana (mom's mom) was a raging alcoholic but that's it. both of my parents are pretty normal, no depression or drug abuse or anything (except for the typical 70s era crap). shit my mom barely even had any menopause symptoms. she never went on hormone therapy or anything, she didn't need it.

thank fuck i've got some decent genes in my family. the only thing i have to worry about i think is skin cancer, which i'm fine with because i dont ever try to tan any more and always use sunscreen. and then colon cancer is in my family and i've got digestive problems, so i'll probably be getting my colonoscopy in my late 30s just to be safe.

i'd much rather have to worry about those 2 things in my later years than the mental shit.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-12-2009 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
that, or that alzheimer's will eventually progress into dementia after a long enough period of time




Alzheimer's IS dementia. It doesn't progress into it. You have dementia as your blanket term that encompasses many different types of dementia.


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