I have seen you throughout the years complain about US support of dictatorships in the Middle East. While this may be true, the one time when the people themselves rise up, and ask for our help and are obliged, you immediately go into "Evil Empire" mode.
Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-04-2011 18:42:
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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
I have seen you throughout the years complain about US support of dictatorships in the Middle East. While this may be true, the one time when the people themselves rise up, and ask for our help and are obliged, you immediately go into "Evil Empire" mode.
I don�t think we have all the facts straight in Libya. Mind you this is simply from my own observations and I really don�t want to jump into any conclusions just yet. Time will tell if getting involved in Libya was a wise decision or not.
I truly hope that that everything would have a positive outcome at the end but you cannot simply forget the past conflicts and history has shown us that by getting involved in a country�s political matters and taking sides doesn�t always have happy endings.
Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-04-2011 18:47:
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
my own observations ... don�t want to jump into any conclusions just yet.
The resistance is no longer in need of your services, hardcore trancer.
Posted by The17sss on Apr-04-2011 19:17:
Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-04-2011 19:29:
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Originally posted by The17sss
I don't even know where to begin with this level of bullshit, truly amazing in both it's depth and breadth. The only thing that's accurate about this is that Kucinich is an utter twat.
Posted by The17sss on Apr-04-2011 19:40:
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
I don't even know where to begin with this level of bullshit, truly amazing in both it's depth and breadth. The only thing that's accurate about this is that Kucinich is an utter twat.
Haha... so the cited coalition names and sizes, cited congressional resoultions (and lack of), UN resolution names, UN Security Council vote tallies, dates of operation and address to nation, and cited concurrent military operations are all inaccurate lies? Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-04-2011 20:06:
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Originally posted by The17sss
Haha... so the cited coalition names and sizes, cited congressional resoultions (and lack of), UN resolution names, UN Security Council vote tallies, dates of operation and address to nation, and cited concurrent military operations are all inaccurate lies?
Indeed, becuase your premis is a complete fallacy.
Iraq was only about finding those WMD's? remember
oops, none found, so let's make it about regime change against a horrible dictator, that'll do it. Oh darn, that won't work because the UN resolution specifically didn't allow that.
Oh, but hold on, the UN resolution didn't actually allow any force for breach of the resolution so USA and Britain just stormed in there and as the recent inquiry in London found, it was a clear breach of international law.
Bugger, let's just glaze over all those pesky details by touting a congressional resolution (for what that's worth).
No? Ok let's mention some stuff about al-qaeda being in cahoots with Ghadaffi and maybe some of that mud will stick. lol.
Oh and as for the date thing, yeah, bush was quick to announce and make that address, nearly like he had it planned and everything well in advance. But of course no, it was just good timing on his part. You, know, because he was real good at that kind of thing.
C'mon now, even you can do better than this pile of junk.
Posted by The17sss on Apr-04-2011 21:15:
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Indeed, becuase your premis is a complete fallacy.
Iraq was only about finding those WMD's? remember
oops, none found, so let's make it about regime change against a horrible dictator, that'll do it. Oh darn, that won't work because the UN resolution specifically didn't allow that.
True none were found (save the 550 metric tons of yellow cake uranium that was unearthed at the nuclear research center of Al-Tuwaitha, but who's counting?). But in fact, regime change was expressly part of the plan going in.
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Oh, but hold on, the UN resolution didn't actually allow any force for breach of the resolution so USA and Britain just stormed in there and as the recent inquiry in London found, it was a clear breach of international law.
Stop trying to re-write history. US and Britain + 47 other countries signed on as part of the coalition to be precise.
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Oh and as for the date thing, yeah, bush was quick to announce and make that address, nearly like he had it planned and everything well in advance. But of course no, it was just good timing on his part. You, know, because he was real good at that kind of thing.
C'mon now, even you can do better than this pile of junk.
"like it had been planned"? Dude... the process Bush took to get Congressional approval took 9 months. Barack the foreign policy genius took about what, 3-4 weeks and was more concerned with the ambiguous Arab League's approval than he was to consult with his own Congress.
Posted by tubularbills on Apr-04-2011 21:20:
hey so how about that green flag, eh?
Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-04-2011 21:42:
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Originally posted by The17sss
"like it had been planned"? Dude... the process Bush took to get Congressional approval took 9 months. Barack the foreign policy genius took about what, 3-4 weeks and was more concerned with the ambiguous Arab League's approval than he was to consult with his own Congress.
The situation you are bitching about is a little different, but god damn Kevin, you are a fucking retard.
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Also Kevin, I am keeping note of how much you were going "GOD DAMN IT, GOD GOD DAMN IT BRAH BRAH BRAH OBAMA NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS GHADFI FELLA RIGHT NOW BRAH BRAH BRAH!"
That is so when in a few months or a year or whenever it happens you can't come back and be like "Obama supported anti-americans that took over Libya" cause you are mr. rush-the-fuck-in-there-and-help-whoever-the-fuck-is-fighting-ghdafi.
Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-04-2011 21:42:
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Originally posted by The17sss
All of these "facts" sure do smell funny after I pull them out of my ass.
All of the Republican morons who were up in arms over the fact that America didn't rush in to the support of the Libyan rebels who are now up in arms over our involvement in enforcing this UN resolution should have their arms cut off. They seem to conveniently forget that this isn't a full-scale ground invasion as Iraq was as well. I suppose Obama getting it right this time is a small condolence for the families of the thousands of American soldiers who lost their lives helping the Iraqi people who didn't ask for help.
Posted by The17sss on Apr-04-2011 21:45:
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
The situation you are bitching about is a little different, but god damn Kevin, you are a fucking retard.
"OBAMA NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS GHADFI FELLA RIGHT NOW"
And you still have no evidence of me saying it. Fuckin' tough guy talking big through the computer in mom's basement as usual. Keep at it you fucking piece of shit. I can't wait till karma decides that it's time to settle up.
Posted by The17sss on Apr-04-2011 21:47:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
I'm a bigger pussy than Joss Weatherby... thought you'd like to know.
Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-04-2011 21:48:
Calling someone a retard for being a retard also isn't being a "tough guy," so much as it is pointing out the obvious.
Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-04-2011 21:49:
Oh you right wingers and your logical fallacies used to distract people from the truth about your intellectual inadequacy. So endearing
Posted by The17sss on Apr-04-2011 21:54:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Oh you right wingers and your logical fallacies used to distract people from the truth about your intellectual inadequacy. So endearing
It must be great to be you. Oh how I can only dream of possessing the elite wisdom of a person like you. So educated... so refined... able to look down upon anyone to the right of your deluded ideology from high atop your perch of intellectual supremacy, no doubt garnered from a lifetime of real world experience.
Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-04-2011 21:56:
I would have to agree with you on that one. It is nice to have garnered the capacity for critical thinking of my own, instead of having to have my opinions spoon-fed to me by Fox News.
Are you suggesting that possessing the education and subsequently gained intellect from a University education is in some way a bad thing? Perhaps I should have joined the military straight out of high school and just in time to fight in a war that was both unjustified and unwanted. Maybe then I'd have the real world experience of being brainwashed by the powers that be to realize first hand that the administration in power at the time were nothing but a bunch of hawks and we had no business being in Iraq.
Posted by Moongoose on Apr-04-2011 22:01:
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Originally posted by The17sss
I dont need to go past the first pic where the great argument against the libya op is that it sounds like a stripper name, to know that whoever did this comparison was a fucking moron and that most of what follows will be bogus information making fun of the dirty liberal elites who keep bringing the honest god fearing exceptonal tr00 american down...so i didnt even look past the first pic.
Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-04-2011 22:03:
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Originally posted by Moongoose
I dont need to go past the first pic where the great argument against the libya op is that it sounds like a stripper name, to know that whoever did this comparison was a fucking moron and that most of what follows will be bogus information making fun of the dirty liberal elites who keep bringing the honest god fearing exceptonal tr00 american down...so i didnt even look past the first pic.
Funny that you could be so completely correct without looking past the first row Posted by The17sss on Apr-04-2011 22:06:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
I would have to agree with you on that one. It is nice to have garnered the capacity for critical thinking of my own, instead of having to have my opinions spoon-fed to me by Fox News.
Another strike. I rarely watch Fox News. In fact, I watch a little bit of everything but in small doses because I can't stand the news. So I read... a lot. My opinions are my own; you on the other hand are a pretty obvious case of someone living in a cocoon who is so entrenched in ideology (leftist ideology), and when challenged on anything that may disrupt your world view, you resort to defensiveness, half baked assumptions (I am spoon fed my beliefs via Fox News and can't possibly be as educated as you), and smug elitism as a way to beat down dissenting thought and reinforce your beliefs. People like you are a dime a dozen. I kind of feel bad for you, as one day you may wake up and realize the dream world you've been naive enough to believe is possible through collectivism and central planning and a president riding a unicorn isn't really possible after all.
Posted by The17sss on Apr-04-2011 22:17:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Perhaps I should have joined the military straight out of high school and just in time to fight in a war that was both unjustified and unwanted. Maybe then I'd have the real world experience of being brainwashed by the powers that be to realize first hand that the administration in power at the time were nothing but a bunch of hawks and we had no business being in Iraq.
Hmmm. Interesting position. I have to ask you then: since Obama spent the better part of 5 years denouncing Bush's policies on Guantanamo, renditions, tribunals, preventive detention, Predators, and the Patriot Act... and despite promises to limit/end/stop such affronts to civil rights, has either expanded or continued ALL policies, will you condemn Obama now as strongly as you like to condemn Bush for the same things? Will you condemn him for spending $600 million in 1 week in Libya and authorizing a bombing campaign?
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