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Posted by Dj_Day-V on Jul-13-2006 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier


2002 with 2006


What was that in 2002 again ?


Posted by malek on Jul-14-2006 02:50:

Latest Amendment of the FIFA Disciplinary Code May Result to Italy to Give Up World Cup Title



NewswireToday - /newswire/ - Boston, MA, United States, 07/13/2006 - On last 28 March 2006, an Amendment to article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary added few lines about discrimination. If confirmed of any discrimination, Azzurri player, Marco Materazzi could face serious sanctions. Italy then may be deducted 3 points.



[NewswireTODAY FirstCall] - On last 28 March 2006, an Amendment to article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary added few lines about discrimination.

The following could cause Italy to loose the title.

Part IV: If any player, association or club official or spectator perpetrates any kind of discriminatory or contemptuous act as described by par. 1 and/or 2 of this article, THREE points will automatically be deducted from the team concerned.

Amendment to article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code
Non discrimination

Part. I:
Anyone who publicly disparages, discriminates against or denigrates someone in a defamator manner on account of race, colour, language, religion or ethnic origin, or perpetrates any other discriminatory and/or contemptuous act, will be subject to match suspension for at least five matches at every level. Furthermore, a stadium ban and a fine of at least CHF 20,000 will be imposed on the perpetrator. If the perpetrator is an official, the fine will be at least CHF 30,000.

Part. II:
If spectators display banners bearing discriminatory slogans, or are guilty of any other discriminatory and/or contemptuous behaviour at a match, the appropriate body will impose a sanction of at least CHF 30,000 on the association or club that the spectators concerned support and force it to play its next official match without spectators. If the spectators cannot be identified as supporters of one or the other association or club, the host association or club will be sanctioned accordingly.

Part. III:
Any spectator who is guilty of any of the offences specified under par. 1 and/or 2 of this article will be banned from entering any stadium for at least two years.

Part. IV:
If any player, association or club official or spectator perpetrates any kind of discriminatory or contemptuous act as described by par. 1 and/or 2 of this article, three
points will automatically be deducted from the team concerned, if identifiable, after the first offence. In the case of a second offence, six points will automatically be deducted, and for a further offence, the team will be relegated. In the case of matches without points, the team concerned, if identifiable, will be disqualified.

Part. V:
The confederations and associations are required to incorporate the provisions of this article in their statutes and to enforce the sanctions stipulated. If any association infringes this article, it will be excluded from international football for two years. Source: FIFA

Zidane is better known for his sportsmanship and dancer-like style with the ball. He is a national hero for the French and a symbol of a young, multicultural France. Born to Algerian immigrants, Zidane grew up playing on concrete in an impoverished neighborhood of Marseille, South of France.

"My act is not forgivable," Zidane said. "But they must also punish the true guilty party, and the guilty party is the one who provokes."

Materazzi has acknowledged he insulted Zidane, without giving specifics. At nearly the same moment Zidane was live on French TV, excerpts from an interview that Materazzi gave were posted on an Italian paper's Website.


Posted by loconet on Jul-14-2006 02:58:

^^ If they do that, I'll put up a fifa flag on my car and honk all night long. .. lol jk Fat chance of that happening.

In other news...

http://football.guardian.co.uk/brea...5949034,00.html

quote:

French lawyer plans challenge to World Cup result

PARIS, July 13 (Reuters) - A French lawyer plans to ask a court to intervene in the controversy over Zinedine Zidane's sending-off in the World Cup final.
Doubts over whether a match official relied on video evidence of Zidane's head butt to Italian defender Marco Materazzi meant the final should be replayed, lawyer Mehana Mouhou said.
"I am going to ask the judge to question all individuals concerned and to reconstruct the end of the refereeing," Mouhou, who is based in the northern town of Rennes, told Reuters on Thursday.
"If it is proved that the fourth referee used video evidence, FIFA can have the final replayed," he said.
Mouhou said he was acting on behalf of a number of clubs and associations whose names he would reveal once the application had been filed with the Tribunal de Grande Instance in Paris, one of France's main civil courts.
French captain Zidane was sent off in extra time in Sunday's final in Berlin after he head-butted Materazzi, apparently in reaction to comments by the defender. Italy went on to take the World Cup after winning the match on penalties.
The incident went unseen by the referee and his two linesmen. The referee was informed about the head butt by the fourth match official who said he had witnessed the action.
French team officials have challenged this version of events, saying the official knew what happened because he saw a video replay.
FIFA rules prevent referees from using video evidence during the course of a match.
"The divergence of opinion means that the justice system should decide," Mouhou said.
"If it is proved that video was used, I will ask for the match to be nullified."


Posted by malek on Jul-14-2006 03:03:

that would be like an atomic bomb!!


i would drive around (in a rented car) with a huge italian flag with "owned" on it


Posted by RapidFire on Jul-14-2006 03:12:

I REALLY doubt any of that is gonna happen.


would be nice though.


Posted by Cloud on Jul-14-2006 08:17:

What happened to this thread?


Posted by noikeee on Jul-14-2006 09:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Day-V
What was that in 2002 again ?


turkish player kicks a ball, hits Rivaldo on the stomach, Rivaldo immediately falls to the floor with the hands on his face, turkish guy gets sent off


Posted by noikeee on Jul-14-2006 09:16:

If Italy loses their title (which would be batshit insane and completely UNFAIR to the rest of the team), i sure as hell hope they give it to Germany. If they give it to France it'd mean they get a world title for a violent aggression, which would be the most ridiculous thing FIFA could ever decide.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Jul-14-2006 09:26:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
If Italy loses their title (which would be batshit insane and completely UNFAIR to the rest of the team), i sure as hell hope they give it to Germany. If they give it to France it'd mean they get a world title for a violent aggression, which would be the most ridiculous thing FIFA could ever decide.


they can't just strip Italy away from the cup and give it to someone else though, Italy won it fair. If the match were to be anulled which i highly doubt it, there would have to be a rematch against France - Italy again. That seems like a more logical solution.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jul-14-2006 09:30:

rematch/striping a title this is a pipe dream of French supporters and French press...

do you know how much trouble you would have in Italy or the rest of the world with Italians if this happens


Posted by noikeee on Jul-14-2006 09:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Danny Ocean
they can't just strip Italy away from the cup and give it to someone else though, Italy won it fair. If the match were to be anulled which i highly doubt it, there would have to be a rematch against France - Italy again. That seems like a more logical solution.


a rematch of a world cup final midseason i'm having trouble picking the most ridiculous possible decision of them all

just imagine the media buildup to the game.. it would be worse than the actual final, the rivalry wouldn't allow it to end 11 against 11.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Jul-14-2006 12:07:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
a rematch of a world cup final midseason i'm having trouble picking the most ridiculous possible decision of them all



probably yours, giving the world cup to Germany who lost so beautifully against Italy? pfft. And no way would they give it to France after what happened with Zidane, so...
dosen't really matter, the World Cup is going to stay in Italy.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Jul-14-2006 12:22:



such a good win.


Posted by Taub on Jul-14-2006 19:10:

what happend to this thread?....its missing some pics


Posted by Goashem on Jul-14-2006 19:44:

who is this beauty?


Posted by Zayatz on Jul-14-2006 19:55:







Posted by noikeee on Jul-14-2006 20:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Zayatz


that's a new one


Posted by luisjb82 on Jul-15-2006 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
^^ If they do that, I'll put up a fifa flag on my car and honk all night long. .. lol jk Fat chance of that happening.

In other news...

http://football.guardian.co.uk/brea...5949034,00.html


Obviously FIFA also needs to investigate on what grounds the referee sent Zidane off the pitch... by this I mean, FIFA knowing who watched Zidane headbutting Matterazzi and then suspending that person for not stopping the game the second Zidane commited the foul and also having waited like 3 minutes after the ref stopped the match to actually tell him what Zidane had done.

Italy will keep the WC as they should, but if it is proved that the refs made their decision based on video footage (explaining the delay on the decision about Zidane's red card), they should definitely be suspended from reffing, as it is against the rules, sadly but it is the truth... FIFA needs to clear this mess up, the sooner the better.


Posted by malek on Jul-15-2006 00:36:

the 4th ref saw the headbutt on the giant screen, no one else from the refs saw the incident with their own eyes.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jul-15-2006 01:27:

Fifa, the stadium, attendees have all confirmed they did not show the replay on the screens in the stadium. Fifa even bans replays not to do with offsides and goals I believe


Posted by malek on Jul-15-2006 02:31:

it was not a replay, it was the live thing.


Posted by luisjb82 on Jul-15-2006 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
Fifa, the stadium, attendees have all confirmed they did not show the replay on the screens in the stadium. Fifa even bans replays not to do with offsides and goals I believe


Which brings out the next and most logical question, if one of the refs watched Zidane's headbutt with their own eyes, why did they wait for so long to send him off?... such delay doesn't make any sense, at all.

And if none of the refs saw it with their own eyes, who informed them about Zidane's actions?... and even worse, what's FIFA gonna do with those refs, in my opinion some kind of penalty at the very least or a very severe punishment should be given to them. Those kind of fuck ups at the WC finals can not be forgotten.


Posted by malek on Jul-15-2006 02:43:

the giant screen was showing the same thing we were seeing at home, the exchange with both players and then the headbutt.

the 4th saw it on the screen not with his own eyes.


Posted by luisjb82 on Jul-15-2006 02:56:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
the giant screen was showing the same thing we were seeing at home, the exchange with both players and then the headbutt.

the 4th saw it on the screen not with his own eyes.


hmmm I'm missing something here... I watched the finals via Directv, and the argument and the headbutt was shown on the replay, not live, and according to InterMilan there were no replays showing the headbutt on the big screen at the stadium, so how did the 4th referee watch it on the screen?... can you guys clear it up?


Posted by DJGolf on Jul-15-2006 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by luisjb82
hmmm I'm missing something here... I watched the finals via Directv, and the argument and the headbutt was shown on the replay, not live, and according to InterMilan there were no replays showing the headbutt on the big screen at the stadium, so how did the 4th referee watch it on the screen?... can you guys clear it up?


just watch replay carefully again, the 3rd red saw it! that's why Buffon right away ran to him and pointed to him that u saw it.


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