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Posted by Orbax on Apr-27-2007 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Vitz
I'm training 3-4x a week with offdays in between. My goal is to gain mass overall. Went from 147 (after a break) to 163 (current weight) in 2.5 months. My schedule looks like this:

Back/Bicep

Chest/Shoulders/Tricep

Legs/Abs

I think I've hit a plateau so I'm wondering, should I continue doing this, change my types of excersie (ex: going from machine to free weights) or comepletely redo my schedule?
Input appreciated, thanks


explain your current routines for all muscles and their divisions:

chest/tri ????? what weight how many exercises per muscle and what reps and weight


Posted by Ripped Bag on Apr-27-2007 06:18:

I normally just do cock pushups

3 sets of 10 every day


Posted by RapidFire on Apr-27-2007 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
wow. Now all you need to do is come here and get out Toronto boys in shape!


hey i resent that


Posted by trunks1022 on Apr-27-2007 06:45:

dumb question. what's the standard weight of a bench press bar? 45 lbs?


Posted by venomX on Apr-27-2007 07:12:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
dumb question. what's the standard weight of a bench press bar? 45 lbs?


yeap, olympic bench press bar is 45lbs


Posted by CrazedOut on Apr-27-2007 07:21:

quote:
Originally posted by sugardevill
so apparently some fat burners can cause a raise in cortisol!!

hmmmm

on that note 6 cups of black tea is said to lower cortisol

I think im gonna switch to black tea for awhile and try it out!


Or just a cup of Green Tea, but of course it's all up to you


Posted by tubularbills on Apr-27-2007 11:14:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
-claps-

after a long hiatus... today was my day #2 at the gym

day #1 - cardio shoulder and cardio
day #2 - cardio back and cardio

i think shoulder and back are my favs to work out. I love those muscles the most on chicas.



/so proud of myself.


+claps+

keep it up.....gurrrrrrrl lol


Posted by nrjizer on Apr-27-2007 13:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
i dont think creatine is needed for gains.


Well me neither (since I gained 6 lbs in the last 2 weeks), but I'm wondering if creatine is a standard ingredient in most NoXplode brands.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Apr-27-2007 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
i dont think creatine is needed for gains.


it makes it easy to gain a good 10 lbs in a week though lol


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Apr-27-2007 14:29:

Only supplements I would say one should take is a muti-vitamin, Whey protein, and Glutamine. I'll also take some vitamin C and fish oil for omega 3. Diet is 80% of the equation so eat lotsa chicken, fish, beef and for carbs brown rice and all the colors of fruits and veggies.


Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-27-2007 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
it makes it easy to gain a good 10 lbs in a week though lol



a lot of that is water weight...


Posted by OrZonE on Apr-27-2007 14:53:

You can't gain 6 lbs of muscle tissue in 1.5 weeks, your body just doesn't grow that fast. You can gain fat, water and residuals in your intestines along with some muscle (nowhere close to 6lbs). Also don't expect those gains to be cyclical.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Apr-27-2007 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
a lot of that is water weight...


yeah probably all of it actually.


Posted by Orbax on Apr-27-2007 15:33:

Tbills...youre in the airforce


Posted by Vitz on Apr-27-2007 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
explain your current routines for all muscles and their divisions:

chest/tri ????? what weight how many exercises per muscle and what reps and weight

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
CHEST/SHOULDER/TRICEP day:

Chest Press (machine) 3x140
Flys (machine) 3x110
Shoulder Press (machine) 3x80
Lateral Raise (machine) 3x60
Dips (with the counterwight machine) 3x30lbs of counterweight
Tricep pulldowns 3x80
Chest Press (machine,to kill me off) 3x85

BACK/BICEP day:

Lat Pulldown: 3x90
Seated Cable Rows (machine) 3x100
Weighted Hyperextensions: 3x25
Upright Rows: 3x70
Another pulldown excersize for lats (machine)3x125
Cable Hammer curls (bicep) 3x80
Preacher curls (machine) 3x30

LEGS/ABS DAY:
Leg extension (machine) 3x150
Seated Leg Curls (machine) 3x120
Thigh Abductor (machine) 3x185
Hip Adductor (machine) 3x150
Seated Calf Raises (machine) 3x85
Ab Crunch (machine) 3x100
Leg Press (pressure machine) 3x525
Sit ups 3x10 extra pounds in back of head

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

I do 10 reps for all the sets I perform.


Posted by Orbax on Apr-27-2007 19:42:

thats a lot of machine @@ I think i use 1 maybe 2 per workout.

Whats your goal? That routine is going to lean and define


Posted by Zoso on Apr-27-2007 21:15:

I've hopefully got a legitimate question: suppose you reach a size/definition combination that you feel is right for you. What is the best way to maintain that combination? Simply using the same workout template each time? Or do you still need to do occasional sessions of high intensity/low volume lifts? If I worded that poorly, bitch slap me and I'll start over. Thanks.


Posted by Danila on Apr-27-2007 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
I've hopefully got a legitimate question: suppose you reach a size/definition combination that you feel is right for you. What is the best way to maintain that combination? Simply using the same workout template each time? Or do you still need to do occasional sessions of high intensity/low volume lifts? If I worded that poorly, bitch slap me and I'll start over. Thanks.


Hm

It all depends on your diet. Caloric surplus = you grow, caloric deficit = you loose weight.

I never follow a same program for more then few months. Your body gets used to the exercises, sets and reps, you want to keep things changing.

http://www.leehayward.com/workout_programs/index.htm

I like this one. I'm actually going to do it starting Monday. 12 weeks. Your stuff changes around every 3 weeks.

If you don't eat over your calorie intake, you won't get any bigger if that's your goal. But by keeping your routine changing you will break through plateaus and such.

Cheers


Posted by Orbax on Apr-27-2007 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
I've hopefully got a legitimate question: suppose you reach a size/definition combination that you feel is right for you. What is the best way to maintain that combination? Simply using the same workout template each time? Or do you still need to do occasional sessions of high intensity/low volume lifts? If I worded that poorly, bitch slap me and I'll start over. Thanks.


post a pic and ill tell you if youre perfect and need to worry about that


Posted by Zoso on Apr-27-2007 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
post a pic and ill tell you if youre perfect and need to worry about that


Oh, I'm not ripped by any means. It was just a question which I was genuinely curious about. You've easily got me beat by 20-25lbs.


Posted by Vitz on Apr-28-2007 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
thats a lot of machine @@ I think i use 1 maybe 2 per workout.

Whats your goal? That routine is going to lean and define


My goal is to gain muscle mass overall, or bulk up, as they say. I try to eat a lot, take creatine before my workouts and drink protein shakes.
Hmm, maybe you are saying that i shouldnt use machines so much?


Posted by Orbax on Apr-28-2007 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
Oh, I'm not ripped by any means. It was just a question which I was genuinely curious about. You've easily got me beat by 20-25lbs.


lol I wasnt comparing you to me

maintenance overall would be more of a week to week thing than a day to day thing. You notice youre getting a bit soft so you do a harder workout etc. A steady diet and hardworks tend to maintain though, look at everyone in the gym who has been there for years and made no gains. Hella maintaining hehe


Posted by Orbax on Apr-28-2007 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Vitz
My goal is to gain muscle mass overall, or bulk up, as they say. I try to eat a lot, take creatine before my workouts and drink protein shakes.
Hmm, maybe you are saying that i shouldnt use machines so much?


Machines are used for definition really. They cut out all the stabilizer muscles and tend to over isolate. Id stick with freeweights :\


Posted by nrjizer on Apr-28-2007 04:14:

quote:
Originally posted by OrZonE
You can't gain 6 lbs of muscle tissue in 1.5 weeks, your body just doesn't grow that fast. You can gain fat, water and residuals in your intestines along with some muscle (nowhere close to 6lbs). Also don't expect those gains to be cyclical.


Well I don't have much other explanation. I had been hovering around 162-163 for a long time, and when I weighed in yesterday I was just over 168.5. I have been running and eating well as always, so I don't see how it could have really been a gain in body fat. And I hadn't eaten any large meals prior to getting on the scale. Having done nothing different the last few weeks except for busting my ass on the weights, I don't see where else the lbs could have come from.

I'll just see what I weigh on Monday.


Posted by Clinkz913 on Apr-28-2007 05:17:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Well I don't have much other explanation. I had been hovering around 162-163 for a long time, and when I weighed in yesterday I was just over 168.5. I have been running and eating well as always, so I don't see how it could have really been a gain in body fat. And I hadn't eaten any large meals prior to getting on the scale. Having done nothing different the last few weeks except for busting my ass on the weights, I don't see where else the lbs could have come from.

I'll just see what I weigh on Monday.


beginner gains


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