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Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Solkanar512
I know this response was meant to be tongue in cheek, but these comments will happen whether or not links to these shows are posted.

Look folks, we need to realize that trance doesn't live in a bubble. Prog influences trance. House influences trance. Techno influence trance. And in return, trance influences these genres back. To say "this is tranceaddict, not progaddict or house addict" ignores where trance comes from, and where it's going.

It's one thing not to listen to these genres because you don't enjoy them. Fine, I can deal with that. But to ignore them (and others!) is what leads to this homoginization that you folks are calling "McProg" or "American Progressive". Like it or not, this is all we're going to hear unless we start listening to other things.

Ultimately, this music reminds me of an aspen forest. Yes, it has the beauty intrinsic to a forest. It is something to be enjoyed, spun by djs and danced to. But when you look deep down, you find that each of those trees has the same dna, same genetic structure (since aspens breed asexually). We need new material, new influences, and new ideas.

So folks, if you have a favorite radio show available ont eh internet, lets hear about it. Start a thread (one with links here in the MD, one with a tracklist in the TR forum) about it, and lets hear what the rest of us are listening to. Trance, Prog, House, Techno, whatever. Heck, I'll look around, and try and find one to post about as well.

Good luck all, and remember, we're all on the same side here. Happy Holidays.



the problem isnt the music. its the people that only like the music because so and so played it on their radio show. im sure you could look in todays ASOT thread, and there are probably a 100 omfg posts, over stuff that isn't that great. then these people post about it in md, or even worse new releases OMFG 10/10 on asot today...

just go look at the first 20-30 posts


Posted by Phortastic on Dec-24-2004 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by alieu
Very well written, Solkanar512!!


+1


Posted by Camwin on Dec-24-2004 01:15:

May i ask a question?

What genre would you put
Paris & Healy - "Blue"

I thought this song waws very good and different from what i usually listen to. If i was to branch out and listen to something else it would be in this category.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Camwin
May i ask a question?

What genre would you put
Paris & Healy - "Blue"

I thought this song waws very good and different from what i usually listen to. If i was to branch out and listen to something else it would be in this category.



dont know it...


Posted by Ory on Dec-24-2004 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Camwin
May i ask a question?

What genre would you put
Paris & Healy - "Blue"

I thought this song waws very good and different from what i usually listen to. If i was to branch out and listen to something else it would be in this category.


My top #1 track of 2004. IMO it can't be put in a genre. It's progressive to say the least.


Posted by djkoolaide on Dec-24-2004 01:24:

Alright then, would it make you prog heads happy if we just didn't call it Progressive anymore?

Shit, it's just music. I don't see people on here creating new threads just to say "OMG I HATE HIPHOP!!!!!1111". So what is the difference with this? If you don't like it, you don't need to make a post about it. Just DON'T FUCKING LISTEN TO IT. Seriously, TA is getting more retarded with every passing day.


Posted by stevebutabi on Dec-24-2004 01:35:

this thread needs to be closed, the "McProg" arguments and points have been made


Posted by torontotrance on Dec-24-2004 01:36:

take a page from the tta's book

you like mcprog....great...continue to listen to it
you hate mcprog....great...don't listen to it and turn the dkay stuff up!


Posted by Solkanar512 on Dec-24-2004 02:42:

quote:
Originally posted by stevebutabi
this thread needs to be closed, the "McProg" arguments and points have been made


There is plenty of good discussion going on here. If you don't want to participate here, there are dozens of other threads you can post on. Please don't rain on someone else's parade.


Posted by trancintaiwan on Dec-24-2004 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
sorry mate but isnt that the "general" opinion of prog with most people?


negative. progressive has awesome rolling basslines, crazy effects, very nice percussion, no set in stone buildup or arrangement of where the breaks are, nice melodies, etc etc. not bland at all.

quote:
off topic of the thread but...


you should check out "Wonder" best track of the summer imo, also check out "Snowblind".. it comes with a hot house mix by spincycle


damn, i completely agree. this imo has to be my top track for 2004. so many details to the sound. great bassline, awesome melodies. its just great.


Posted by TheVrk on Dec-24-2004 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by trancinchink
negative. progressive has awesome rolling basslines, crazy effects, very nice percussion, no set in stone buildup or arrangement of where the breaks are, nice melodies, etc etc. not bland at all.


i couldnt agree more - imo, u cant bitch about prog at all


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by stevebutabi
this thread needs to be closed, the "McProg" arguments and points have been made


you dont think this thread is going to be made over and over again for the next few months??


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 03:31:

quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
i couldnt agree more - imo, u cant bitch about prog at all


uh hu


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Dec-24-2004 03:35:

lalalaaaaa


Posted by wolverine16 on Dec-24-2004 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
take a page from the tta's book

you like mcprog....great...continue to listen to it
you hate mcprog....great...don't listen to it and turn the dkay stuff up!

^^^^^^
This should be the last word!!! And Matthew Dekay is the man!!!


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16
^^^^^^
This should be the last word!!! And Matthew Dekay is the man!!!


im not sure he means matthew dekay


Posted by Simcut on Dec-24-2004 08:53:

Smile

quote:
Originally posted by trancinchink
negative. progressive has awesome rolling basslines, crazy effects, very nice percussion, no set in stone buildup or arrangement of where the breaks are, nice melodies, etc etc. not bland at all.


nah mate, dont get me wrong I do like prog but the general opinion of prog is what I had said, though I dont agree with it.


Posted by speedracer_mec on Dec-24-2004 19:26:



bump


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec


bump


HOLY SHIT LOL, post of the year


Posted by DickieThijssen on Dec-24-2004 19:42:

i don't want to taste that


Posted by sandstorm03 on Dec-24-2004 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
i don't want to taste that


its good, tastes like a chunck of cheeze


Posted by Ian on Dec-24-2004 22:16:

theres a lot of cheese on that (Although Holden is being removed for probspot soon )

And don't ask what tigerclaws' special sauce is.. you dont want to know, trust me


Posted by speedracer_mec on Dec-24-2004 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
theres a lot of cheese on that (Although Holden is being removed for probspot soon )

And don't ask what tigerclaws' special sauce is.. you dont want to know, trust me


rofl


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Dec-24-2004 23:08:

this thread has to end somewhere


Posted by mndeg on Dec-25-2004 00:41:

real progressive to me is very very repetitious with minimal melody like lemon 8 productions, its interesting but I'd rather listen to something else


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