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Originally posted by paranoik0 You think wrong. Pirlo = one of the 20 best players in the world.

He plays with very small margins, which makes his style of play very difficult. That's sometimes his biggest weakness, I'm not saying this because I'm a Juventus-fan, but I really think he's overrated.

easy there zoran Pirlo is like Xavi, doing all the great job in the dark

No. Xavi is a lot better player before he got injured and trust me, I am watching the players who works in the dark.

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Originally posted by zoric No. Xavi is a lot better player before he got injured and trust me, I am watching the players who works in the dark.

Best player who works in the dark is Makelele IMO.

Xavi's good no doubt but Pirlo's just fantastic on his day. I don't get to see much Italian football over here so I usually reserve my judgement on players who play in Serie A but whatever I have seen of Pirlo has really impressed me.

Also, the world cup is the benchmark for players to up their stock and their wages and I think Pirlo did just that. He was man of the match in the Semis and the Finals and was just marvellous to watch in all their games and I would love for him to play for United.

As of now heres what it looks like is the best lineup we will have at our disposal to compete with Chelsea at this point

------------------------Van Der Sar--------------------------

---Neville-----------Ferdinand--------Silvestre----- Heinze

-------Ronaldo--------Scholes--------Giggs--------Ji Sung-------

--------------Rooney----------------------Saha--------------

Id rather see Vidij in place of silvestre and its likely that Scholes and Giggs will not start in many games so O' shea will get plenty of playing time. Expect Rossi to start several games in place of Saha or partner him up front with Rooney playing behind them.

Theres no way ronaldo will leave. Ruud i think is as good as gone and if we havent added new faces by mid august, Fergie is going to be under enourmous pressure and will probably have to buy Torres out his contract for 41 million and pray that he decides to hop over. I have my fingers crossed but currently we are not in good shape.

Pirlo > Xavi
Prilo > Any Manchester United Mid-fielder

Pirlo is not leaving so keep living in dream world like you are with Torres.

That XI raveed is shit you say compete with Chelsea how about Arsenal, Liverpool and even Tottenham.

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Originally posted by InterMilan31 Pirlo > Xavi Prilo > Any Manchester United Mid-fielder Pirlo is not leaving so keep living in dream world like you are with Torres. That XI raveed is shit you say compete with Chelsea how about Arsenal, Liverpool and even Tottenham.

yah, thats what i was pointing out. Not looking to good at the moment.

let's just hand the title to chelsea

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Originally posted by fastmp3 let's just hand the title to chelsea

throw them into serie A to make both leagues more competitive

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Originally posted by raveed Best player who works in the dark is Makelele IMO. Xavi's good no doubt but Pirlo's just fantastic on his day. I don't get to see much Italian football over here so I usually reserve my judgement on players who play in Serie A but whatever I have seen of Pirlo has really impressed me. Also, the world cup is the benchmark for players to up their stock and their wages and I think Pirlo did just that. He was man of the match in the Semis and the Finals and was just marvellous to watch in all their games and I would love for him to play for United. As of now heres what it looks like is the best lineup we will have at our disposal to compete with Chelsea at this point ------------------------Van Der Sar-------------------------- ---Neville-----------Ferdinand--------Silvestre----- Heinze -------Ronaldo--------Scholes--------Giggs--------Ji Sung------- --------------Rooney----------------------Saha-------------- Id rather see Vidij in place of silvestre and its likely that Scholes and Giggs will not start in many games so O' shea will get plenty of playing time. Expect Rossi to start several games in place of Saha or partner him up front with Rooney playing behind them. Theres no way ronaldo will leave. Ruud i think is as good as gone and if we havent added new faces by mid august, Fergie is going to be under enourmous pressure and will probably have to buy Torres out his contract for 41 million and pray that he decides to hop over. I have my fingers crossed but currently we are not in good shape.

Nemanja is injured as far as I'm concered

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Originally posted by zoric Nemanja is injured as far as I'm concered

I know that but im talking about the team to be selected if the squad is fully fit.

Congrats, it looks like torres is staying with Athletico. I still have a feeling that he could move in January but im pretty sure hes wants to wait till chelsea or barcelona come knocking.

This current united squad really does look like mid table material. I dunno what the fuck they are up to. We already admitted we are looking to sell van nistelrooy which is going to affect his relationship with the club and with torress' statement, fergie cant sell him until he gets a replacement of similar quality which is highly unlikely. If anything its probably going to be trezeguet. Tevez should have been another one to look at but i guess hes also going to be in the same boat as torres.

What scares me more is Glazer's debt though he was so sure United were going to double in value but now it looks like the value might end up being halved. This current squad will struggle to make it to the champions league especially with tottenham and newcastle really beefing up their squad and no europe next season will be a huge disaster. Less money to pay huge debts + no giggs, solksjaer and probably scholes as they are all heading towards retirement. If no europe indeed does happen, its all downhill from there for united.

I would've choosed Vidic instead of Silvestre.

Torres has already confirmed that he's giving Atl�tico another shot after the huge dissapointment last year. Probably because Bianchi was the manager and we had to find our way of playing in the middle of the season with Pep� Murcia who wasn't good either.

Even though I don't like Torres that much, I'm still glad that he stays at Atl�tico this season. I doubt he will leave in January, only if we really play shit and don't have a chance for Europe..

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Originally posted by raveed I know that but im talking about the team to be selected if the squad is fully fit. Congrats, it looks like torres is staying with Athletico. I still have a feeling that he could move in January but im pretty sure hes wants to wait till chelsea or barcelona come knocking. This current united squad really does look like mid table material. I dunno what the fuck they are up to. We already admitted we are looking to sell van nistelrooy which is going to affect his relationship with the club and with torress' statement, fergie cant sell him until he gets a replacement of similar quality which is highly unlikely. If anything its probably going to be trezeguet. Tevez should have been another one to look at but i guess hes also going to be in the same boat as torres. What scares me more is Glazer's debt though he was so sure United were going to double in value but now it looks like the value might end up being halved. This current squad will struggle to make it to the champions league especially with tottenham and newcastle really beefing up their squad and no europe next season will be a huge disaster. Less money to pay huge debts + no giggs, solksjaer and probably scholes as they are all heading towards retirement. If no europe indeed does happen, its all downhill from there for united.

the perfect scenario

So the dreaded words finally came out of Fergie's mouth - "None of our supporters will be disappointed if we start next season with the current squad that we have".

I guess im not a United supporter then

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Originally posted by raveed So the dreaded words finally came out of Fergie's mouth - "None of our supporters will be disappointed if we start next season with the current squad that we have".

I still can't understand wtf is up with the lack of centre midfielders. Does he honestly think Fletcher, Giggs and Scholes make a top midfield in the Premiership?!

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Originally posted by raveed So the dreaded words finally came out of Fergie's mouth - "None of our supporters will be disappointed if we start next season with the current squad that we have". I guess im not a United supporter then

Told you he should've been kicked a long time ago

sack the scott

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Originally posted by zoric Told you he should've been kicked a long time ago

Don't really think its his fault. He wont accept mediocre players because united isnt a mediocre club but at the same time, everyone seems to be wanting to go to chelsea now.

Im sure if we came in for Pennant or Duff, they would have come to old trafford rather than liverpool or newcastle but the players we are looking at are all going to Chelsea, Barca, Madrid or wanting to stick on in Italy.

United seem to be in cost cutting mode and top players seem to be aware they can earn bigger bucks at other clubs.

You lads have signed carrick for 17 million sterling.



ripped off.


Mascerahno(sp) might be signing aswell for 18 million. He would be good.

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Originally posted by Michael19 You lads have signed carrick for 17 million sterling. Mascerahno(sp) might be signing aswell for 18 million. He would be good.

18.5 million actually. He is a great player but that is a lot more than hes worth and it outlines how badly fergie wanted a holding midfielder.

If we get Mascherano, i will cry tears of joy but then again, il be doing that with every signing that we make from now on.

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Originally posted by raveed 18.5 million actually. He is a great player but that is a lot more than hes worth and it outlines how badly fergie wanted a holding midfielder. If we get Mascherano, i will cry tears of joy but then again, il be doing that with every signing that we make from now on.

LOL To be honest, too expensive for that player, but nonetheless a good signing.

Now Mascherano is really class... hope you guys get a good team going so Chelski has some kind of opposition this season.

Carrick is good but that's way too expensive. Waaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive.

I get the feeling good english players get overpriced a ton just because they're english.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 Carrick is good but that's way too expensive. Waaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive. I get the feeling good english players get overpriced a ton just because they're english.

Rio Ferdinand
Michael Carrick
David Beckahm
Jonathan Woodgate

i know im missing many more...

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Originally posted by InterMilan31 Rio Ferdinand Michael Carrick David Beckahm Jonathan Woodgate i know im missing many more...

Shaun Wright-Phillips

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Originally posted by paranoik0 Shaun Wright-Phillips

Wayne Bridge
can I add Robbie Fowler?

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