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All the israelis here, except psy-t, are waving their flag in our faces saying they're hot shit.

I dont recall saying that our israeli members here were exactly innocent in the name calling dept.

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Sure I can. Get MY government to stop supporting you. Then you've basically got nothing. You can trade some citrus fruits if you want, but you can't last on that forever.

boy arent you going to make a great parent....... ill give you allowance as long as you do what i say, when i say it for the rest of your life

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Originally posted by Temperate Sure I can. Get MY government to stop supporting you. Then you've basically got nothing. You can trade some citrus fruits if you want, but you can't last on that forever.

My vote cancels out yours (assuming you're in America)

man have any of you seen jewish girls? Some of them are really really hot

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid man have any of you seen jewish girls? Some of them are really really hot

Yep & most are skanks too & put out very easily. Me likes

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp you bring up a good point venom, but i was more refering to the hostility that some members were showing each other. the racist comments and such dont benefit the discussion and frankly discredit what they're trying to say entirely. at some point, hopefully soon, one side needs to back down and end the sensless violence. but i do see the point as to why israel is sticking to their guns on this. in order to stop the extreemist activity they have to take a hardline at some point. if they were to just bend to the hizbollah's demands to get the two soldiers back, how long would it have been before they kidnapped more soldiers? I do understand that when fighting a guerilla style enemie that doesnt conform to the standard combattant image of a uniform, structured ranks etc, but i think israel needs to take more restraint and not make the same mistakes the americans have made in iraq. Too many iraqis have been killed because of "bad intelligence"...... Jesus was a carpenter, and the carpenter saying is "measure twice cut once"

Agreed, i already had my rant about those 'racist' elements in this thread But yeah, i think all major points have been hit in this thread more or less, now its a matter of seeing how the conflict develops i think.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer IDF has been doing the same to the poor palestinians for years and nothing has been done about it.you are getting a taste of your own medicine.ENJOY IT.

finally a relevant post by you.

you didnt get my point. i meant that Hezbollah is operating within populated areas (hence, taking IAF attacks there), lebanese citizens getting hurt is unfortunatelly inevitable. same thing happens within Gaza and other palestinian cities.

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Originally posted by jonSun Yep & most are skanks too & put out very easily. Me likes

especially the Sefaradi ones

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Originally posted by epsilon1 finally a relevant post by you. you didnt get my point. i meant that Hezbollah is operating within populated areas (hence, taking IAF attacks there), lebanese citizens getting hurt is unfortunatelly inevitable. same thing happens within Gaza and other palestinian cities.

But then wouldnt the ridiculously high rates of civilian casualties on the other sides that israel is used to fighting merit a different style of waging war at least? Or even *gasp* another form of conflict resolution, like sanctions from israels partners, or like dragging the G8 into this? I dont know, from what i gather in this thread the IDF is notorious for civilian casualties. Of course it is because of the strategies of their enemies but still, its a bit excesive no?

just saw it on the news (channel 10 in Israel) - one of the reporters said that Hezbollah are blocking roads to prevent from civilians to run to the north from the south. he also said that civilians are trying to prevent from Hezbollah militants to fire misslies.

Ok, i'm not on either side as i am not israeli and i am not palestinian or lebanese...however, i do share something with all of you...i'm Human!

But some of you are forgetting this, we all breath the same air, we all feel love, anger and sadness.

So why are some people coming out with these disgusting comments! We're all human...just try to view things from the otherside, think what those who dont share you're beliefs are going through.

If you still wish to make disgusting comments, then i really feel sorry for the extensively restricted life you will live.

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Originally posted by ronk just saw it on the news (channel 10 in Israel) - one of the reporters said that Hezbollah are blocking roads to prevent from civilians to run to the north from the south. he also said that civilians are trying to prevent from Hezbollah militants to fire misslies.

Thumbs up for the civilians! At least they are starting to get involved and taking responsibility.

will you please stop talking about "race" as if it's anything more than a social construct?

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Originally posted by ronk dude go learn some history before making a fool out of yourself. the "millions" (there never were "millions") of jews immigrated from europe because they suffered in europe. at that time (end of 19th century, beginning of 20th century) there was a massive immigration wave from eastern europe to the rest of the world. aprox. 20,000 jews from that 'wave' decided to immigrate to Israel, to settle along side the other jews who lived here. at that time the Ottoman Empire ruled this region and allowed the immigration of the jews (yet with many prohibitions) like many other countries which allowed immigration. the jewish people who came bought the lands they settled on, and the arabs couldn't care less. later, before and during ww1, aprox. 10,000 jews immigrated here. after the war, the Ottoman Empire was defeated, so all of its territories were given to Britain and France. so in 1922 the League of Nations passed the Palestine Mandate, which among other things was an obligation to the Balfour Declaration - an establishment of a jewish national home in these lands. so time goes by...and at some point the british got sick of the problems they've had here (fights between jews and arabs mainly, which most of them the arabs initiated - 1920, 1921, 1929, 1936-1939). so they turn to the UN to decide what to do with this region. the UN decides to end the British mandate, and to divide it into a jewish state and an arab state. the jewish leadership accepted the decision, the arab leadership didn't. in the end of the last day of the british mandate, Israel declared its independence. then, the arabs decided to strike the jewish state (Israel), with help from other countries (Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon etc.) the war ends, we win, and the borders of that same jewish state (called Israel) were expanded. later there were some other wars between Israel and the arabs, so the Israeli borders expanded some more after each war. and by the way, there was no 'country' prior to the state of Israel in this exact region (the Ottomans ruled it, but it was a part of their empire).

wow um. man.. that's your very skewed take on history man.. clearly you've omitted topics such as jewish extremist terrorism.. and other very very very very very very important issues and events which occurred in this time period. I don't even know what to say.. there are entire books written on this period (such as http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/01...1376600?ie=UTF8) I really am not surprised at your account however. You are allowed to give it. I'm just here to warn people that your account isn't exactly the most objective. I'm not going to try correcting your statements and filling the gaps as it's close to impossible. So, for those of you out there interested in the conflict, please do your own research of events which occurred.

The jewish race is an inferior race because it has inferiorites in it that other races do not such as entreprenuership and genius IQ that no other race can equal. Its why they are running the world and we other people of the lower races are serfs to them.

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Originally posted by venomX But then wouldnt the ridiculously high rates of civilian casualties on the other sides that israel is used to fighting merit a different style of waging war at least? Or even *gasp* another form of conflict resolution, like sanctions from israels partners, or like dragging the G8 into this? I dont know, from what i gather in this thread the IDF is notorious for civilian casualties. Of course it is because of the strategies of their enemies but still, its a bit excesive no?

read my previous post about death tolls.
Israel can not accept these spontaneous attacks by Hezbollah every few months (most of them arent even reported). other resolutions like sanctions and so on did not help at all. the Lebanese government supports Hezbollah (at least until now), and the Lebanese president said today that Lebanon cannot give up Nassrallah. US threatened syria of posing sanctions on them (which will eventually harm Hezbollah as Syria supports it), weve seen the results (none).

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid The jewish race is an inferior race because it has inferiorites in it that other races do not such as entreprenuership and genius IQ that no other race can equal. Its why they are running the world and we other people of the lower races are serfs to them.

the only reason many jews own banks and private money lending firms is because a century ago, not even, the jewish people were racially denied by the government well-paying jobs because of their social status. hence, they began opening lending firms which in turn led to the "conspiracy" of jews owning many big banks around the world..

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Originally posted by epsilon1 the only reason many jews own banks and private money lending firms is because a century ago, not even, the jewish people were racially denied by the government well-paying jobs because of their social status. hence, they began opening lending firms which in turn led to the "conspiracy" of jews owning many big banks around the world..

lol yea.. it's amazing how things pan out for you guys. Many places in europe, jews weren't allowed to own land, so their capital wasn't tied up anywhere. They ran their own businesses and basically had a lot of cash. Because of the frequent wars in this period, a lot of capital was required to fund it. Kings sought capital from the jews because they had the cold hard cash yo (i had to add that in)... then the formation of syndicates.. banking networks.. etc etc.

So many people hate jews in this world. The word jew is more often used as a slang than as a race.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jews

What do they get out of attracting so much hatred towards themselves? Be it in history or at present.

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Originally posted by Purple So many people hate jews in this world. The word jew is more often used as a slang than as a race. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jews What do they get out of attracting so much hatred towards themselves? Be it in history or at present.

LOL i call my dad a jew bastard all the time. Cause hes dumb & cheap when it comes to his business.

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Originally posted by jonSun LOL i call my dad a jew bastard all the time. Cause hes dumb & cheap when it comes to his business.

Yeee.. we do the same with friends, we call them jews when they act cheap.

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Originally posted by psychosomatica wow um. man.. that's your very skewed take on history man.. clearly you've omitted topics such as jewish extremist terrorism.. and other very very very very very very important issues and events which occurred in this time period. I don't even know what to say.. there are entire books written on this period (such as http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/01...1376600?ie=UTF8) I really am not surprised at your account however. You are allowed to give it. I'm just here to warn people that your account isn't exactly the most objective. I'm not going to try correcting your statements and filling the gaps as it's close to impossible. So, for those of you out there interested in the conflict, please do your own research of events which occurred.

of course there are gaps, I can't write here the whole history and timeline. there were jewish extrimists as well as arab extrimists, nobody denied it. jews killed british and arabs, british killed jews and arabs, arabs killed british and jews,..that's why, among other reasons, Britain turned to the UN.
as for the events, I omitted ww2 (and the holocaust) as far as I know... maybe you referred to the White Papers as well? after the 'occurrences' in 1921, 1929 and 1936-9?
oh and if you have time you can add to my post whatever you think it lacks.

Heres a blog from a TOTA that was posted by Jenniepie in a CORe thread abt this subject. Right now he is caught in Lebanon & he & his family are trying to get out. It tells of his daily events & what he has seen & what the western news is not reporting.

http://karimhamasni.blogspot.com/

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Originally posted by jonSun Heres a blog from a TOTA that was posted by Jenniepie in a CORe thread abt this subject. Right now he is caught in Lebanon & he & his family are trying to get out. It tells of his daily events & what he has seen & what the western news is not reporting. http://karimhamasni.blogspot.com/

I was just reading this blog, is it true that Israel is using toxic shells? I mean he cited a couple of news outlets but i dont know how belieable they are. If Israel is using toxic agents that's just sick and unacceptable, any support i would've given Israel in this conflict just banished.

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Originally posted by venomX I was just reading this blog, is it true that Israel is using toxic shells? I mean he cited a couple of news outlets but i dont know how belieable they are.

Ya i dont think the blogger was sure either. He said the news was reporting it, but he didnt know what to believe. He was right about the western media though. After i read this i went & put on some news. They were reporting that over 230 died in Lebanon & that most were civilians. But it wasnt the top story. Ofcorse the 8 killed in Haifa was the top story. And they even were reporting the amount of people in Israel being admitted to the hospital because of panic attacks. I was thinking, who gives a fuck abt panic attacks. That is not news when innocent civilians are dying in Lebanon. But its what western media feels is important.

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