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Originally posted by jon jon IMO the season is overated, it's all warmup to when the game gets real.

for middle tier teams, winning the few extra regular season games can mean all the difference. look at houston, with the 4th seed over the 5th seed Jazz, they get home court for game 7. the hometeam has won each of the 6 games in the utah-rockets series.

it's been like that in the past, home court advantage (although not essential) definitely is worth fighting for in the regular season

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Originally posted by Porky what did u do?

Notable Quotes :
to the ref : "just because he makes that face [vince] doesn't mean he got fouled!"

to Vince down 4 near the end of the 4th before an inbounds :
"Hey vince, what play you running? WHAT PLAY YOU RUNNING!!!"

to RJ : Well I can't really say, I was up on him all night long, up to the point where the suits around me were encouraging my jeers because they were convinced I was affecting his game. That and he'd react to me. He didn't make a shot from my side of the floor, and I didn't let him forget it all night.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Do you think Kobe is pleased right now?

Of course not, but no doubt he was then (when Shaq was traded)

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Originally posted by SPANIARD Word on the street is that Ford and Calderon are both injured

if that's true, we're done. Maybe it's a psych out like they did to us w/ Kidd. lol

whoa. serious.

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Originally posted by TheVrk Of course not, but no doubt he was then (when Shaq was traded)

I still don't see how this warrants hate for Kobe. Sure he played a part in getting rid of Shaq, but I'm really not surprised at the outcome after hearing stories from people from LA. There's a lot more than just Kobe being a selfish prick and wanting the team all to himself.

And just for the record, I was a Kobe hater up until this season started.

Kobe > Shaq any day of the week.

close game hey the raps will have the last shot for the win
and they will miss it like always

I'm gutted, they played to win tonight and overall I was impressed with everyone...

hopefully they learnt a lot from this series...

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Originally posted by Sly_Guy Notable Quotes : to the ref : "just because he makes that face [vince] doesn't mean he got fouled!" to Vince down 4 near the end of the 4th before an inbounds : "Hey vince, what play you running? WHAT PLAY YOU RUNNING!!!" to RJ : Well I can't really say, I was up on him all night long, up to the point where the suits around me were encouraging my jeers because they were convinced I was affecting his game. That and he'd react to me. He didn't make a shot from my side of the floor, and I didn't let him forget it all night.

bahahah.. tha'ts awesome man! you probably shaved a few points off the nets boxscore!!!

great season by the raps, I expect better with Bargnani in his sophomore season

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Originally posted by electro88 great season by the raps, I expect better with Bargnani in his sophomore season

Bargnani is a rookie. What are you talking about?

Pretty disappointed that the Raps weren't clutch in the last min of the game, but hey, only two players of the team had play-off experience, this is just a big learning session for the whole team, especially for Bosh who wasn't hot until the 4th quarter.

Bargnani did well against the Nets, he made the Net's defense move towards him a few plays.

The PGs always did well, I don't know why Mitchell would bench Ford in the 4th quarter when he was doing hot plays. Maybe cause Calderon knew how to defend against Kidd.

1 damn point! it was like that time when Raps lost to the 76ers in the play-offs and Vince Carter missed that shot to win or tied it I don't remember.

Here today, gone tomorrow: Mo Pete, TJ, Graham, Dixon, Humphries and possibly Martin (if he retires).

Wonder which euro star will be joining us before pre-season hits next year?...

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Originally posted by SuperJimbo Here today, gone tomorrow: Mo Pete, TJ, Graham, Dixon, Humphries and possibly Martin (if he retires).

What do you mean? You think Colangelo will be moving those guys out?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH What do you mean? You think Colangelo will be moving those guys out?

Correct.

We can't afford Mo Pete, who is a free agent, especially since we have the increasingly impressive Parker.

We don't need two starting point guards, and I think they will trade TJ before Calderon. I think it was telling that TJ rode the pine in the 4th quarter of Game 6, even though he was playing (or should I say shooting, not passing) very well. That said, TJ's close relationship with Bosh, may mean that TJ stays and Calderon goes. I think Colangelo's positive comments about TJ are intended to try to make it seem like he doesn't want to give him up, to maximize trade value.

Graham is way too inconsistent, and had more than enough opportunities to prove himself. I'd be surprised if he is on any roster in the league in 2-3 years.

Dixon is too small, and with the signing of Luke Jackson, who is less of a defensive liability and a better shooter, there is little need to keep him around. All that chatter about Juan being a clutch performer and built for the playoffs, turned out to be wishful thinking.

Humphries had a break out year, which means his trade value is probably as high as it will ever be. I just don't think he has the mental or physical toughness required to become a regular in the rotation. With Garbo back and Bargnani starting next season, Humphries' role will be reduced to left bench. Just to the right of Pape Sow.

Martin is simply too old to keep a spot on the roster, and will likely seek to become an assistant coach with the Raptors, if not elsewhere.

Who do you think will be gone before next season, if anyone?

P.S. How good is Utah?!?!?! Those guys play so hard and play together. I could see them winning it all, to be honest. Utah vs. Bulls (yes, the Bulls, despite the Game 1 fiasco) in the Final, with Utah winning in 6.

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Originally posted by SuperJimbo Correct. We can't afford Mo Pete, who is a free agent, especially since we have the increasingly impressive Parker. We don't need two starting point guards, and I think they will trade TJ before Calderon. I think it was telling that TJ rode the pine in the 4th quarter of Game 6, even though he was playing (or should I say shooting, not passing) very well. That said, TJ's close relationship with Bosh, may mean that TJ stays and Calderon goes. I think Colangelo's positive comments about TJ are intended to try to make it seem like he doesn't want to give him up, to maximize trade value. Graham is way too inconsistent, and had more than enough opportunities to prove himself. I'd be surprised if he is on any roster in the league in 2-3 years. Dixon is too small, and with the signing of Luke Jackson, who is less of a defensive liability and a better shooter, there is little need to keep him around. All that chatter about Juan being a clutch performer and built for the playoffs, turned out to be wishful thinking. Humphries had a break out year, which means his trade value is probably as high as it will ever be. I just don't think he has the mental or physical toughness required to become a regular in the rotation. With Garbo back and Bargnani starting next season, Humphries' role will be reduced to left bench. Just to the right of Pape Sow. Martin is simply too old to keep a spot on the roster, and will likely seek to become an assistant coach with the Raptors, if not elsewhere. Who do you think will be gone before next season, if anyone? P.S. How good is Utah?!?!?! Those guys play so hard and play together. I could see them winning it all, to be honest. Utah vs. Bulls (yes, the Bulls, despite the Game 1 fiasco) in the Final, with Utah winning in 6.

neither team will be able to get past the Spurzzzz...

Detroit in 6
Cleveland in 7

Phoenix in 6
Utah in 7

NBA Finals - Cleveland vs. Phoenix

NBA Champs - Phoenix

Clevland over Detroit? I dunno about that

IMHO, Detroit is only behind Phoenix in terms of skill and experience. I would love to see a Phoenix-Detroit final.

Jeff, I agree with most of what you said...though I don't see TJ or Calderon moving in a trade, unless Colangelo comes up with some can't-turn-it-down option.

Rumours are that Minnesota is shopping Garnett, despite both he and the team denying it. I would love to see KG in a Raps uniform, at whatever cost, because he's *exactly* what the Raps lack...a guy who rebounds, blocks and defends.

AFAI am concerned, Bosh, Bargnani and Calderon would be the only 'untouchables'.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Kobe > Shaq any day of the week.

Today, yes. The Lakers 3-peat, fuck no, not even close

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Originally posted by TheVrk Today, yes. The Lakers 3-peat, fuck no, not even close

Yea, I agree with that. Kobe was still really young back then, and Shaq has a couple of years on him.

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Originally posted by SuperJimbo Correct. We can't afford Mo Pete, who is a free agent, especially since we have the increasingly impressive Parker.

I agree. I'll be really surprised if Mo Pete is still playing for us next year.

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We don't need two starting point guards, and I think they will trade TJ before Calderon. I think it was telling that TJ rode the pine in the 4th quarter of Game 6, even though he was playing (or should I say shooting, not passing) very well. That said, TJ's close relationship with Bosh, may mean that TJ stays and Calderon goes. I think Colangelo's positive comments about TJ are intended to try to make it seem like he doesn't want to give him up, to maximize trade value.

I disagree. I think we'll definitely keep both PG's until at least next season, possibly until the trade deadline. I do think though, that because of TJ's relationship with Bosh, and the fact that he was brought in as the "number 1" PG means that Jose will go. Which will really really really really suck. Maybe Jose and Jorge will go together in a blockbuster trade.

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Graham is way too inconsistent, and had more than enough opportunities to prove himself. I'd be surprised if he is on any roster in the league in 2-3 years.

I think the kid just cracked under pressure. I wouldn't give up on Joey just yet. Give him one more year. Maybe even wait until trade deadline to see if his performance improves.

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Dixon is too small, and with the signing of Luke Jackson, who is less of a defensive liability and a better shooter, there is little need to keep him around. All that chatter about Juan being a clutch performer and built for the playoffs, turned out to be wishful thinking. Humphries had a break out year, which means his trade value is probably as high as it will ever be. I just don't think he has the mental or physical toughness required to become a regular in the rotation. With Garbo back and Bargnani starting next season, Humphries' role will be reduced to left bench. Just to the right of Pape Sow.

I could see both Dixon and Humphries go out in a trade in the off-season. Like you said, for the Raptors, Kris probably reached his peak. Trade him now, along with Dixon for a solid back up for Bosh.

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Martin is simply too old to keep a spot on the roster, and will likely seek to become an assistant coach with the Raptors, if not elsewhere.

I'd love to see him as an assistant head coach on our team.

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P.S. How good is Utah?!?!?! Those guys play so hard and play together. I could see them winning it all, to be honest. Utah vs. Bulls (yes, the Bulls, despite the Game 1 fiasco) in the Final, with Utah winning in 6.

I really wanted to see a Houston-GS match up but oh well. Utah proved to be the better team in the end. I don't see them winning it all though. Right now they play GS which could go either way at this point. Sooner or later the Warriors' magic will run out. I could see them getting past Utah, but in round 3 they'll be playing Phoenix who I think will just destroy GS.

I'm crossing my fingers for Chicago too. I hate Detroit. In the East I see Chicago playing Cleveland and beating them in 7, to on to play the Suns, recreating the 1993 Championship.

The Toronto Star
Raptor puzzle mostly in place
May 06, 2007
What's next for the Raptors?

THE CORE

Chris Bosh

Three-year contract extension with a player option for a fourth year kicks in next season. Cornerstone of the franchise, he keeps improving.

T.J. Ford

Three-year contract extension with a player option for a fourth year kicks in next season. Young point guard learning his way as team leader.

Andrea Bargnani

Under rookie contract for next three years with a team option for a fourth. Vastly improved from start of year, sky's the limit.

THE SUPPORTING CAST

Anthony Parker

Two years remaining on contract. A glue guy who might have most complete game on team.

Jose Calderon

One year remaining on contract. Could be best backup point guard in the league, comfortable with role.

Jorge Garbajosa

Two years remaining on contract. Has to come back from serious leg injury.

Rasho Nesterovic

One year guaranteed remaining, one year player option. Solid, if unspectacular. If Bargnani's projected as a starter, he could be moved.

THE QUESTION MARKS

Morris Peterson

Free agent this summer. It'd be a big surprise if longest-serving Raptor was in Toronto next season. May fetch good value in a sign-and-trade.

Joey Graham

One year left on deal. Infuriates coaches with inconsistency, shocks them with athleticism, but it might be time to move him along.

Kris Humphries

One year left on rookie contract. Good backup deep in rotation, energy guy who can help if he'll be satisfied with secondary role.

Juan Dixon

One year left on contract. Good rotation player in regular season, proven scorer who can help.

Luke Jackson

A guaranteed deal for next year. He's cheap � less than $500,000 � and much more a project than a prospect. Depth guy.

Pape Sow

Free agent in the summer. Everyone loves the guy, but not sure there'll be room at the end of the roster for him.

Uros Slokar

Free agent this summer. See Sow. Same deal, but may have enough potential that they keep him around for another look.

Darrick Martin

Free agent this summer. If he wants to play another year as a de facto coach, they should bring him back; if he wants to coach, they should add him to the staff.

Compiled by Doug Smith

boris diaw and amare stoudemire suspended!!!!

shocking.... last night's game 4 of suns vs. spurs was one of the best basketball games i've seen in awhile, but the way the spurs roughed up nash really detracts from the beauty of the game. and last night's altercation where Horry violently pushes Nash into the boards was completely unprofessional. and who gets punished? i feel like killing! hopefully the suns can win shorthanded tomororrow.

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Originally posted by SuperJimbo How good is Utah?!?!?! Those guys play so hard and play together. I could see them winning it all, to be honest. Utah vs. Bulls (yes, the Bulls, despite the Game 1 fiasco) in the Final, with Utah winning in 6.

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