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Posted by oldschool420 on Jan-10-2007 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
functional enough to click a box?


I can do alot more than that thanks. I was lucky enough to get out before I hit rock bottom.

Edit: I got out of control for a while but I was still aware of what I was doing. Certain things happened though that made me realize I couldn't keep doing this forever. Like starting a career and going to school. I definately didn't lose any memory or suffer any kind of loss. I have no regrets really, I had a blast. Would I go that crazy again? Hell no, but as I said I don't regret it.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jan-10-2007 23:57:

^^^

Word.

Pills and shit may not be the right thing for me anymore, but I sure as hell am glad for all the experiences I had when I still did it. Wouldn't take back any of it.


Posted by SummerWolf on Jan-10-2007 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
functional enough to click a box?


oddly enough, the people i know that did a shitload of pills and that stop, well today are actually doing quite fine...

i myself is now an account manager and i work from home and i love my career...

not because we were younger and stupid that we stayed stupid our whole life. most of the really sketchy people i have seen at a party are the ones that take 1-2 and they cant handle it... most of us that used to do at least 5 a night developped a tolerance and oddly enough were able to control and tolerate our drugs (except when mixing with other drugs.... stupid stories like i told before happens)....


Posted by SummerWolf on Jan-11-2007 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie


Pills and shit may not be the right thing for me anymore, but I sure as hell am glad for all the experiences I had when I still did it. Wouldn't take back any of it.


amen to that... i have a lot of fucking incredible memories.. as much as i cried a lot of tears and suffered a lot. But it was a crazy learning experiences and the good times will always overcome the bad ones... it was a choice i made on my own and i was fully aware of the damage it might cause me and i stopped when i realized it was way overboard... and today i still love my life. I will never suggest or push someone to taking drugs but one thing i can say, is that if u can overcome it when its time to stop... you will live an incredible learning experience...


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jan-11-2007 00:03:

^ Yeah, that's what I meant. It totally refutes the myth that if you do that many pills your brain will be so fried that you won't be able to live a normal life or function normally in society.

The only one having problems is SummerWolf, but he is an extreme case I would say.


Posted by SummerWolf on Jan-11-2007 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
The only one having problems is SummerWolf, but he is an extreme case I would say.


hahah but gonna be honest with you, the way i lived my life during those years... so much drinking, coke, K... and other stuff... all mixed togehter... having problems was bound to happen. i did push it further that i should have done....


Posted by geroin on Jan-11-2007 01:09:

Yea Cosmic Fur that might sound comforting that a 24y old ex-drug user that id already having major problems tells you that your brain will not be fried after doing 200+ pills and that only in extreme cases might something might happen to your body, keep telling yourself that.


quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Different intoxicants have different affects on people. MDMA makes you empathetic, lovey, chatty, helps you accept people, etc. Cocaine makes you chatty, aggressive, horny, etc. The two have very different affects on a person since one deals with dopamine, and the other deals with seretonin. If there is a party where the majority of people are on MDMA, and another party where the majority of people are on Cocaine, people are going to act differently and interact with each other differently. Therefore, the parties are going to have different vibes.


I don't really understand why you try to explain the effect the drugs can have on people. Also it is impossible to control what substances will be present at a party, are you saying you have attended parties where everyone just did MDMA and thats it? I have never been to a party where only one drug was the choice of the partiers. In your previous comment you told me that a party where most people are on some form of drugs tends to be very accepting and friendly and i fail to see that. I assume that you think that way because you yourself are on some form of a drug at that point and it makes you think that everyone is accepting. I have been to Sonic/Guv many times and a lot of the time people were the opposite. Last time i was at Sonic people stepped on my shoes about 20 times and only one guy apologized because he stepped on my shoes 4! times in a row. The last time he said "I'm sorry man, I'm whacked out of my mind.." Very interesting..

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Here's a hypothetical question: do you think a party where everyone is drunk, and a party where everyone is stone cold sober is going to have the same vibe/atmopshere?


I say yes. If for example you would take a party with people who absolutely love the music and have never done drugs vs people who love the music and are on drugs then the vibe would be identical in my opinion. I would never compare a party with SOBER drug users vs NONSOBER drugusers because it is obvious that sober drug users would never enjoy a party as much as they would on drugs, i can almost bet that most people would just stand there and nod their heads at most.


quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I would agrue that the people who don't know who the DJ is are there more for the music....really....who cares who spins the tracks....I could care less if its tiesto, M & S, MO, Dennis Hahn or any other DJ....as long as the tunes are great then who cares who spins them.


That is a pretty ignorant statement. It actually proves my point right there, if you say you love the music as much as you do then at least show a little interest and find out who is actually playing in booth, especially if it is mark oliver who's been there for 10years. It almost sounds like you don't give a shit who the artist is. "I don't care who you are, just give me any kind of beats, i'll pop my pill and have my fun".

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
the whole "WHY IT WAS MADE" part goes right over your head.


quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
and that "GETTING" 100% of the msg the artist was conveying sober cannot be achieved.


absolutely disagree with these 2 statements. I've had my share of "getting the songs 100%" while i was on the dance floor, if you were there with me some of those times you would believe me also.


Posted by slingshot on Jan-11-2007 01:29:

lol @ the absurd attempts of justification in this thread from both sides. for the most part a good portion of you are forming your opinions and views around pure speculation. alot of you need to stop looking at things from a personal perspective and instead open your eyes and see them for what they really are.


Posted by _EuG_ on Jan-11-2007 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin

I would never compare a party with SOBER drug users vs NONSOBER drugusers because it is obvious that sober drug users would never enjoy a party as much as they would on drugs, i can almost bet that most people would just stand there and nod their heads at most.




I actualy find that when i go to party sober / drunk i dance harder then i do on pills. Maybe not for 8 hours, but for a good 3-4 hours till my legs give out.

I dont do pills because i cant have a good time sober, I have a great time sober. Pills are just a totaly different experiance which can be fun or overwhelming.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-11-2007 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I should add I kind of find it frightening that the number of people who have done over 200 pills is almost as big as the number who have done under 50.

Although that's also comforting cause it's basically proof that even after doing over 200 pills you can still be functioning well.


Depending on how long you have been at it 200 pills is nothing....I've been at it for 12 years....if you average going out two weekends a month at say 2 pills each night.....thats 48 in one year....and 576 over 12 years....and I'm still functioning....although I did need a calculater to figure that out


Posted by SummerWolf on Jan-11-2007 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by _EuG_
I actualy find that when i go to party sober / drunk i dance harder then i do on pills. Maybe not for 8 hours, but for a good 3-4 hours till my legs give out.


i agree to that... at the beginning it did gave me energy but now i only dance when i am sober... in the past 2 years... all the time i dropped pills... well i could not dance for long or only dance when i was sitting down


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-11-2007 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
That is a pretty ignorant statement. It actually proves my point right there, if you say you love the music as much as you do then at least show a little interest and find out who is actually playing in booth, especially if it is mark oliver who's been there for 10years. It almost sounds like you don't give a shit who the artist is. "I don't care who you are, just give me any kind of beats, i'll pop my pill and have my fun".


But are you going to the club just to see a DJ or are you going because you want to hear great music or are you going to love what ever the DJ throws down because its that certain DJ.....the DJ picks the tracks...if you are there for the music and the love of the music then why would it matter who spins the tracks...I agree that I will go see certain DJs because I know what kind of tracks they are going to spin....but would it matter if its Tiesto or MO if they are spinning the exact same tracks....no.

Personally, I don't find the DJ to be the artist...in some cases yes the DJ has produced the track....the producer is the artist....the DJ is just the middle man between the artist and the listener.


Posted by Skipper on Jan-11-2007 01:57:

this is the thread that never ends
it just goes on and on my friends


Posted by The Highroller on Jan-11-2007 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
Yea Cosmic Fur that might sound comforting that a 24y old ex-drug user that id already having major problems tells you that your brain will not be fried after doing 200+ pills and that only in extreme cases might something might happen to your body, keep telling yourself that.




I don't really understand why you try to explain the effect the drugs can have on people. Also it is impossible to control what substances will be present at a party, are you saying you have attended parties where everyone just did MDMA and thats it? I have never been to a party where only one drug was the choice of the partiers. In your previous comment you told me that a party where most people are on some form of drugs tends to be very accepting and friendly and i fail to see that. I assume that you think that way because you yourself are on some form of a drug at that point and it makes you think that everyone is accepting. I have been to Sonic/Guv many times and a lot of the time people were the opposite. Last time i was at Sonic people stepped on my shoes about 20 times and only one guy apologized because he stepped on my shoes 4! times in a row. The last time he said "I'm sorry man, I'm whacked out of my mind.." Very interesting..



We're going around in circles now, Gera. We'll just agree to disagree.


Posted by geroin on Jan-11-2007 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
We're going around in circles now, Gera. We'll just agree to disagree.


lol


Posted by MKpacha on Jan-11-2007 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
this is the thread that never ends
it just goes on and on my friends



some people started posting here, not know what drugs "was" and they'll continue postin' here forever just because....


Posted by Yohan on Jan-11-2007 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by MKpacha
some people started posting here, not know what drugs "was" and they'll continue postin' here forever just because....

*shakes his head and slaps forehead*


Posted by MKpacha on Jan-11-2007 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
*shakes his head and slaps forehead*


tehe


Posted by daves on Jan-11-2007 03:34:



yummy


Posted by minimax on Jan-11-2007 04:14:

Be Cool!

how many have i done?, i wish i could count that high


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jan-11-2007 06:00:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
Yea Cosmic Fur that might sound comforting that a 24y old ex-drug user that id already having major problems tells you that your brain will not be fried after doing 200+ pills and that only in extreme cases might something might happen to your body, keep telling yourself that.


Umm... the "comforting" part was about the fact that 61 people have done more than 200 pills are perfectly fine. I was using Shadowolf as an example that argued AGAINST my point because he actually fucked himself up, BUT he was a lot more carefree about his drug usage than even most heavy users here (sorry man, but your stories are nuts)/

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
That is a pretty ignorant statement. It actually proves my point right there, if you say you love the music as much as you do then at least show a little interest and find out who is actually playing in booth, especially if it is mark oliver who's been there for 10years. It almost sounds like you don't give a shit who the artist is. "I don't care who you are, just give me any kind of beats, i'll pop my pill and have my fun".

So does a person who is able to trainspot every track in a set enjoy the set more than a person who can't ID any? Fuck no. Same deal here. It's just a name after all, it has no bearing on how good the music will actually be (usually, some DJs do tend to suck). At Resolution, since Tiesto was late, they kept shuffling the DJs around to fill in for him, so I had no idea who was playing when. Did it somehow limit my ability to enjoy the music? If anything, the fact that I didn't know who was playing made me more open-minded, because since I usually don't like House, I would have just ignored all the House DJs as usual, but instead I went out and actually enjoyed what they dropped.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-11-2007 07:34:

quote:
Originally posted by _EuG_
I actualy find that when i go to party sober / drunk i dance harder then i do on pills. Maybe not for 8 hours, but for a good 3-4 hours till my legs give out.

I dont do pills because i cant have a good time sober, I have a great time sober. Pills are just a totaly different experiance which can be fun or overwhelming.


yeah I"ll have to agree with this too. Alcohol can be damn fun but that fine line you tread between alcohol euphoria and stupor (which leads to the slurring speech and passing out) and in my opinion, doesn't suit a dance party/rave. But I have to say that recently, the pills I"ve done have had the emotional stimulant in them but rather than plunging into the dancefloor for some crazy action, I'd rather just chill out, talk and smoke while moving at my own pace. I've had times where it was kind of hard to move and coordinate my body (just walking) and that isn't how E is supposed to be, hence the reason I"m stopping for a bit until I find a better source/alternative.


Posted by TheVrk on Jan-11-2007 07:44:

quote:
Originally posted by oldschool420
I have no regrets really, I had a blast. Would I go that crazy again? Hell no, but as I said I don't regret it.


Even if i wanted more than anything in the world, i could never handle what
was once very easy.
COMPLETELY agree in that i would DEF never trade it back for anything.
The experiences are timeless and truly will never be forgotten


Posted by TheVrk on Jan-11-2007 07:51:

Page 8:
quote:
Originally posted by geroin
can't you just enjoy the artist that you like without popping shit?

quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
Not in any way saying ur wrong, but that is the beginning of an ENDLESS convo


Page 14:
quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
this is the thread that never ends
it just goes on and on my friends


Posted by jchung52 on Jan-11-2007 07:55:

ive quit. pills, weed, everything


until further notice


alcohol is my new best friend


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