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Posted by Orbax on Jun-24-2004 16:21:

how much weight to start off on DLs


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-24-2004 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
how much weight to start off on DLs


i'm probably gonna try and start at 200lbs. i'm sure you could probably handle that too.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-24-2004 18:07:

Eek


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-24-2004 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Eek


for deadlifts...that's really not that heavy. i've done them before and i think that'd be a good weight to try. i just don't like doing them hehehe. since maybe you aren't so familiar with them...maybe start a little lower, but seriously...don't under estimate yourself.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-24-2004 18:17:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises...egDeadlift.html

http://www.exrx.net/ExInfo/Dangerou...ml#anchor416052

that made more sense. I would have injured myself if I hadnt read that.


Posted by Omegasox on Jun-24-2004 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
how much weight to start off on DLs


If you're never done them before, just throw a 25 on each side, seriously. Form is so important, don't even worry about weight. I was doing 135 for almost a month before I was absolutely sure my form was down.

It's like the first time you do squats. No matter how much weight is on the bar, you're gonna be sore as fuck regardless and get a good workout because you're hitting such a wide variety of muscles that aren't used to working in concert together.


Posted by dJohn on Jun-25-2004 22:18:

I've got a question for y'all.
I've read through the first 20 or so pages of this thread before my eyes started to dry up...how do you people that go to school full time, work and enjoy 'recreational' activities maintain your gym disciplne?

Every day I have so many things to deal with, no to mention my degenerative smoking and drug habits, on top of poor nutrition due to lack of funds due to no time to 'really' work due to school...blah blah blah, sounds like excuses, but really, working out for me is a priveledge more than anything else.
I ran track and played lacrosse in high school, so as far as being athletic and fit, I'd say I am(Although Im sure the pot and alchohol have contributed to a lower standard of health vs. back in the day when I was clean). But if I wanted to gain bulk using only the time I have, I haven't found a program that can accomplish that. So maybe this is where you guys can help.
Stress and testosterone levels are directly correlated too, I heard. More stress=less testosterone=lesspump=less weights in the gym. This is my problem that only I can take care of, but as far as routine and nutrion goes...any help?

Thanks


Posted by Ygrene on Jun-25-2004 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by dJohn
I've got a question for y'all.
I've read through the first 20 or so pages of this thread before my eyes started to dry up...how do you people that go to school full time, work and enjoy 'recreational' activities maintain your gym disciplne?

Every day I have so many things to deal with, no to mention my degenerative smoking and drug habits, on top of poor nutrition due to lack of funds due to no time to 'really' work due to school...blah blah blah, sounds like excuses, but really, working out for me is a priveledge more than anything else.
I ran track and played lacrosse in high school, so as far as being athletic and fit, I'd say I am(Although Im sure the pot and alchohol have contributed to a lower standard of health vs. back in the day when I was clean). But if I wanted to gain bulk using only the time I have, I haven't found a program that can accomplish that. So maybe this is where you guys can help.
Stress and testosterone levels are directly correlated too, I heard. More stress=less testosterone=lesspump=less weights in the gym. This is my problem that only I can take care of, but as far as routine and nutrion goes...any help?

Thanks


Ok here goes a simple bulking program that won't take a lot of time.

Workout 3 days/week

Monday: Deadlift

Wednesday: Bench

Friday: Squat

There ya go, simple exercises to hit all your muscles and you won't be in the gym more than 3 hours a week. Apply intensity and weight as desired to achieve your gains.

If you want cheap nutrition try eggs, oatmeal, & tuna. Not expensive at all. And of course you'll want various fruits and veggies but those aren't expensive either.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-25-2004 23:16:

I work out for 30 minutes to an hour 3-4 times a week...

Super simple version that I do (Im not a bulker no matter how hard I try )

Actually...just do this one group 3-4 times a week and youll look like me

Dumb bell bench (barbell only if you have a spotter ) 3 sets of 6. Should be pretty burned by the end of that. So choose weights to that end...but finish every set.

Seated rows 3 sets of 6 (same theory as DB bench)

Squats 2-3 sets of 6-8

Dumb bell Flies 3-4 of 8-10.

Lat pull downs 3-4 of 8-10.

Hamstring curls 3-4 of 8-10 (be VERY careful and stretch hammy = most pulled muscle ever)

Machine leg press 3-4 8-10

calf raises 4 of 8

ham curls 4 of 8

seated calf raises 4 of 8.

4 sets of 15 decline bench situps




You just read that and thought FUCK THAT.

If you dont have an hour or so I would suggest removing all the leg exercises and doing them as a seperate group. Split your workouts into upper body and lower body. Do them in the order I put it.

Also, mix up workout #1 on flat bench. The next time you do it do it all on incline benches.

Your triceps will get very worked out through incline bench and using DBs for bench in general. Biceps will get hit from rows and flies.

On leg days you might want to add in shoulder press and bent over reverse flies. Cuz, yeah, you need to do shoulders at some point and you cant do them on a bench day.

cheers!


Posted by Orbax on Jun-25-2004 23:26:

also wait no more than 1 minute between sets.

Once you are done with an EXERCISE like db bench feel free to catch your breath. This helps burn fat and boost the amount of human growth hormone


Posted by Nell on Jun-25-2004 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
also wait no more than 1 minute between sets.

Once you are done with an EXERCISE like db bench feel free to catch your breath. This helps burn fat and boost the amount of human growth hormone


2 years from now i expect to see a 20 stone BB champion out of you!


Posted by Orbax on Jun-26-2004 00:38:

whatever a stone is lol. I cant wait to see what I look like in 2 years!! ive really only been workin out hard with my base here for about 6 months.


Posted by Sean Walsh on Jun-26-2004 02:36:

1 Stone is like 10 pounds or something right?


Posted by Orbax on Jun-26-2004 02:38:

and I lied...i usually work out 1-2 hours. I just wanted him to go to the gym mauHHAHAHAHAHHA


Posted by Vert on Jun-26-2004 02:40:

Ok. I want to loose weight. I have no time to read this entire thread (I'm sorry I'm sorry don't shoot/rape/pillage/flame me).

I work at a golf course which also happens to have a health club, therefore I get free membership. So I'm going to start working out.

What is the best workout routine to loose weight?

What is the best workout routine to gain muscle mass?

Thanks,

es


Posted by Orbax on Jun-26-2004 02:42:

That one I posted on the last page, except with the shoulders definitely added in, plus on the off days )3x a week( do cardio for 30 mins or more. Eat a hydroxycut in the morning 1 hour before you eat breakfast and then drink half a pot of coffe. Eat half a sandwich 5 times a day and dont eat anything but tea after 6!


Posted by tribu on Jun-26-2004 05:35:

This thread has inspired me to start getting in shape and bulking up. I took my before pics about 2 weeks ago, ill post my after pics in about 6 months. I am splitting my cardio (4 days a week) between running, stationary biking, and swimming. On my cardio days, I conecentrate leg lifting (quads, etc) as well as biceps, triceps, etc. On my non days, i work more of my upper body, abs and also some calf exercises. I am also having one day per week with only light cardio and no lifting. I am hoping this will be enough to accomplish my goal. Will let you know how things work out, as I havent been in shape since senior year of high school (4 years ago!)

Starting Weight 151 lbs.


Posted by Ygrene on Jun-26-2004 13:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Vert
Ok. I want to loose weight.

What is the best workout routine to loose weight?

What is the best workout routine to gain muscle mass?



My opinion for losing weight: Control your diet. As long as calories in is < than calories out, you will lose weight - regardless of your exercise routine.

My opinion for gaining muscle mass: Start powerlifting. Nothing will make you bigger and stronger faster if done properly. Build your base first and then shape it.


Posted by Nell on Jun-26-2004 13:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Sean Walsh
1 Stone is like 10 pounds or something right?


14 pounds. old school scales

everyone should just measure in KG, get with the times


Posted by Orbax on Jun-26-2004 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
This thread has inspired me to start getting in shape and bulking up. I took my before pics about 2 weeks ago, ill post my after pics in about 6 months. I am splitting my cardio (4 days a week) between running, stationary biking, and swimming. On my cardio days, I conecentrate leg lifting (quads, etc) as well as biceps, triceps, etc. On my non days, i work more of my upper body, abs and also some calf exercises. I am also having one day per week with only light cardio and no lifting. I am hoping this will be enough to accomplish my goal. Will let you know how things work out, as I havent been in shape since senior year of high school (4 years ago!)

Starting Weight 151 lbs.



Good on yah my starting weight was about 140 I know its hard for us lightweights to bulk up an all, but yeah...it can happen. The hardest part of it all was changing my diet to 3-4 thousand calories a day. It comes down to the more fat you have in your diet the harder and longer you can work out. Which means more bulking. You can lose fat any time you want, but with the proper diet your cardio should start boosting as well.

diet is probably around 60% of body building and training (used to do Triathalon stuff). Working out is easy compared to watching what you eat for22 hours a day.


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-26-2004 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Good on yah my starting weight was about 140 I know its hard for us lightweights to bulk up an all, but yeah...it can happen. The hardest part of it all was changing my diet to 3-4 thousand calories a day. It comes down to the more fat you have in your diet the harder and longer you can work out. Which means more bulking. You can lose fat any time you want, but with the proper diet your cardio should start boosting as well.

diet is probably around 60% of body building and training (used to do Triathalon stuff). Working out is easy compared to watching what you eat for22 hours a day.


ahh...memories.

i remember when i started out i started back in 7th grade i was like 140lbs and the first time i ever worked out i benched like 65lbs heheheehe...by the end of high school...i was a pretty solid 185lbs.


Posted by RichieRich on Jun-29-2004 19:28:

im sorry if this was mentioned, but is it better to do cardio before or after your workout?


Posted by Omegasox on Jun-29-2004 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by X RichieRich X
im sorry if this was mentioned, but is it better to do cardio before or after your workout?


Best to do cardio on your off days, but if you have to do it before or after a workout, go with after.


Posted by enferno on Jun-30-2004 21:58:

i was woundering if anyone has a workout reoutine for building up pectoral bulk. not just strength, but size.

i can bench about 230, but i don't show it

i suppose i am somewhat wirey, but i would like to know of a way to bulk up

i am on a somewhat high protein diet as well


Posted by Orbax on Jun-30-2004 22:29:

hehe welcome to my world. If youve seen my pics...I was smaller than I am now and I was hitting 300+ on the bench. I didnt start bulking up till I lowered the weight, started focusing on form (no lower back arching, mindfully reducing amount of back and shoulder and triceps as I do it, etc...) and increased the # of sets and reps.

Im not big, but getting bigger and its all been happening in the last few months (I was out for 8 months due to 2 torn rotator cuffs)


PS im out again for a week or two because I fucked up my wrist!!@! Will I ever just be NON FRIGGING INJURED???!?!! *tears*


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