Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
People like Taipan make me not feel as bad about people attacking New York.
woah, woah nou. Take it easy on the guy, he's probably just speculating ideas that in some way or form have no relation to his actual beliefs.
Posted by srussell0018 on May-03-2011 17:54:
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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN
so u support terrorism?
It's best just to ignore these kinds of people.
Posted by jester on May-03-2011 17:56:
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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN
so u support terrorism?
What I can tell, he supports the Constitution and what it stands for.
Posted by Taipan on May-03-2011 17:59:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Oh, well that's even more stupid. You can keep believing that all you'd like
Stupid? Don't you think its entirely possible that Osama could have died anytime in the last 10 years?
Posted by EddieZilker on May-03-2011 18:00:
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
People like Taipan make me not feel as bad about people attacking New York.
New York was never "attacked", per se.
It was a false flag op.
DISCLAIMER: The author of this post is not responsible for the views or opinions broadcast, here-in, and accepts no personal responsibility. Although inspired in part by false beliefs, the previous post is fictional and does not depict any actual person or event. For entertainment purposes only.
Posted by Taipan on May-03-2011 18:03:
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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
woah, woah nou. Take it easy on the guy, he's probably just speculating ideas that in some way or form have no relation to his actual beliefs.
I'm not pointing fingers and claiming right or wrong. Osama is dead and US wants to take credit. Nobody is getting hurt and the US certainly deserves the credit (at least more than any other nation) so why not? That's why I wouldn't call it a conspiracy cause I don't really see it as a big deal. They just wanted to go out with a bang and not a whimper.
Posted by srussell0018 on May-03-2011 18:05:
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Originally posted by Taipan
Stupid? Don't you think its entirely possible that Osama could have died anytime in the last 10 years?
Yes. That in and of itself is entirely possible. However, the fact that the US "staged" an elaborate covert ops mission into Pakistan on a completely arbitrary date, just to fake the capture and/or killing of Osama bin Laden is far-fetched to say the least. Why would they do this now? Why not wait until a couple months before the 2012 election? What you're suggesting went down just doesn't make any sense. They could have much more easily flattened his compound with a missile, said he was there, and accomplished the same thing. The main difference here is that in a missile strike, the body would have probably been destroyed beyond recognition, so it would be a bit more difficult to positively ID a subject from samples of blood or flesh that have been dug out from a massive pile of rubble.
Posted by Taipan on May-03-2011 18:16:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Yes. That in and of itself is entirely possible. However, the fact that the US "staged" an elaborate covert ops mission into Pakistan on a completely arbitrary date, just to fake the capture and/or killing of Osama bin Laden is far-fetched to say the least. Why would they do this now? Why not wait until a couple months before the 2012 election? What you're suggesting went down just doesn't make any sense. They could have much more easily flattened his compound with a missile, said he was there, and accomplished the same thing. The main difference here is that in a missile strike, the body would have probably been destroyed beyond recognition, so it would be a bit more difficult to positively ID a subject from samples of blood or flesh that have been dug out from a massive pile of rubble.
1) Neither of us really know how "elaborate" the staged part was. But like I said, those are details. Maybe they did require some time and effort, but compared to the benefits they were small.
2) America is going through a tough time financially and economically. Morale is low and people are doubting the competence of Obama more than ever (or at least before this event). You make the point that he would have waited till right before the election, but there are many points for why that is a bad idea. For example it would be much more suspicious, waiting could have risked the news being exposed prematurely, or simply because when you have an ace up your sleeve you always have the urge to throw it down.
3)Flattening his compound with a missile would be a terrible idea.
Posted by Jackson on May-03-2011 18:18:
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Originally posted by Taipan
Intriguing...What are your thoughts on the Moon Landing?
Posted by Taipan on May-03-2011 18:26:
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Originally posted by Jackson
Intriguing...What are your thoughts on the Moon Landing?
irrelevant. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I guess the reason I think that's how it happened is because if I were in Obama's shoes that's what I would do. I definitely think this issue needed closure and that's what Obama delivered.
Posted by srussell0018 on May-03-2011 18:28:
I think it's funny how a Government making any kind of important announcement always sparks a bunch of people to either flat out say they're lying, or make up some elaborate conspiracy theory about it.
Thank you, Mr. Assange.
What would you be saying if Obama had come out and said "Osama bin Laden is definitely not dead. We definitely didn't send a SEAL team in, and they definitely didn't give him a double tap to the head and one in the chest for good measure. A helicopter also didn't need to make an emergency landing outside the compound after receiving gunfire from guards posted on the roof. None of that happened. Carry on with your evenings."
Posted by WittyHandle on May-03-2011 18:31:
Oh man
Posted by ziptnf on May-03-2011 18:32:
Remember, guys, 9/11 was a government setup too. THEY'RE ALL LYING TO US!!!!!!
Posted by Taipan on May-03-2011 18:32:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
I think it's funny how a Government making any kind of important announcement always sparks a bunch of people to either flat out say they're lying, or make up some elaborate conspiracy theory about it.
Thank you, Mr. Assange.
I think sometimes the government tells the truth and sometimes the government lies. To think they never lie is naive. Do I think they are bad willed? No. Sometimes "lying" is good - such as this instance.
Posted by srussell0018 on May-03-2011 18:33:
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Originally posted by WittyHandle
Oh man
That has to be the SEAL who actually put 2 in his head. Nobody could ever convince me otherwise.
Posted by Moral Hazard on May-03-2011 18:34:
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Originally posted by Taipan
Posted by DJ RANN on May-03-2011 18:35:
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Originally posted by Taipan
I'm saying they never had Osama's body. Osama probably died a long time a go and his body is gone. Hiding for 10 years is not easy. They probably got just got some dead guy with a turban and beard and threw him in the ocean. Then provide us with DNA evidence.
True. Hiding for 10 years is really difficult. It's not like he had a personal fortune of over $200 million dollars, or an army of global supporters willing to give their life for him or that he was in really remote terrain.
Burial at sea actually is the most efficient solution all things considered - there's no shrine, no pilgrimage site, no question of incorrect religious burial to further exacerbate the issue.
The problem with your conspiracy theory is that are too many people involved and you can't contain a lie like that: from everyone in the situation room, to all the military and intelligence staff involved in setting it up, all the support staff in the white house and executive branches, etc, etc, etc - it's too big of a lie with too many players to not leak.
So it's far more plausible and realistic that this event did happen, then the event bigger task of faking it.
Don't get me wrong, there are cover ups and conspiracies out there, but this aint one.
Posted by srussell0018 on May-03-2011 18:35:
SEALs go in, Osama's corpse comes out. You can't explain that.
Posted by ziptnf on May-03-2011 18:36:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
SEALs go in, Osama's corpse comes out. You can't explain that.
Brilliantly executed.
Posted by ziptnf on May-03-2011 18:59:
Btw, here's the most recent, most accurate description-wise picture I've seen.
