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Not really. Every bad thing Walt does is on purpose. He has no remorse and chooses everything he does carefully. I'd call that a lot more evil than a stupid kid making stupid kid mistakes, often under situations of extreme emptional distress. Maybe if you swear more it'll get your point across better.

most of his carefully chosen evils are necessary because of the kids stupid mistakes though. and I'm not sure I buy the no remorse thing, Walt just knows that at the level they're playing there really is no room for crying and doing stupid shit like Jesse does

I think Walt lost his conscience the moment he stood there and let Jesse's girlfriend die right in front of him.

lol @ "kid", Jesse is a 29 years old man from an upper middle class family.

He's not some 16 yr old dumbass corner kid from The Wire.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Not really. Every bad thing Walt does is on purpose. He has no remorse and chooses everything he does carefully. I'd call that a lot more evil than a stupid kid making stupid kid mistakes, often under situations of extreme emptional distress. Maybe if you swear more it'll get your point across better.

You could argue that all those "cold calculated decisions" are made to protect his family. I mean, he became "evil" to ensure his family would be taken care when he died. Since the first time he started cooking until now, he's had to do things to make sure that would happen.

With that said, is he really evil or is he just a scared dude wanting the best for his family when he's dead and gone?

He's really evil. He could've made more than enough to take care of them a long time ago. His only motivation became greed as soon as he killed Gus.

Cranston talked about this issue in this interview, might wanna check it out

He said in the show that "he's in the empire business." He craved power and control. It only started as wanting to provide for his family. Once he got a taste of money and power he completely changed, and just went further and further into the quasi-sociopath that he is now. He's really only motivated by self-preservation at this point. I think he'd probably leave his family behind if he had to in order to protect himself. It even seems like that's what he's going to do according to the flash forward at the beginning of one of the episodes this season.

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Originally posted by Viber Cranston talked about this issue in this interview, might wanna check it out

Thanks for posting.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 I think Walt lost his conscience the moment he stood there and let Jesse's girlfriend die right in front of him.

Walt shows remorse all the time. He is not heartless. He does what he needs to do to protect himself, for sure, but he is not without guilt about it.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 He's really evil. He could've made more than enough to take care of them a long time ago. His only motivation became greed as soon as he killed Gus.

It's partially greed, but it's largely ego, born of feeling so powerless for so long. He is a genius, and should have gotten some of that Grey Matter (I think it was called?) money a long time ago, but went on to be the most overqualified chemistry teacher ever. Vince Gilligan himself cited the moment he turned down the help for his medical bills from his former business partners for no other reason than pride as the point where he turned evil.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 I think he'd probably leave his family behind if he had to in order to protect himself.

No way.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 He's really only motivated by self-preservation at this point. I think he'd probably leave his family behind if he had to in order to protect himself. It even seems like that's what he's going to do according to the flash forward at the beginning of one of the episodes this season.

You're either trolling or not watching the same show as the rest of us.

Did you see his family with him in the flash forward where he met the "cleaner" in that Dennys bathroom?

that doesn't imply he would leave his family in order to protect himself. it's infinitely more likely he left to protect them, if anything. who knows, maybe they left him, or they're around. I don't see him bringing them to a meeting with a "cleaner" anyway.

think in the flash forward walts family is already dead.

love how the license plate on his car in that flash forward is from new hampshire with the motto "live free or die."

What do you think, Skyler, should I get the bushmaster or just go with hand grenades?

lol

Double lol

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Originally posted by WittyHandle Double lol

would totally play this if it was real:

My thoughts during the episode tonight:

-The scene where Hank got shot and Walter dropped to the ground was great.

-I thought Walt was going to spit in Jesse's face but instead he admitted he saw Jane die.

-I don't get why Walt would incriminate himself AGAIN over the phone.

OH SHIT, THE VAN!

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Originally posted by OrangestO -I don't get why Walt would incriminate himself AGAIN over the phone.

The phone call that Walt made at the end was an act; he said it not because he is evil but because he assumed the police were listening in and wanted to sound as evil as possible to place all of the blame solely on him and absolve his wife of all guilt and legal repercussions. That way at least she won't go to prison and can still raise Walt Jr. and Holly and they can be something closer to resembling a "family" without him. That's why he drove to the fire station before he made the call, and why he was crying throughout the phone call.

Aha!

As far as what Walt did by selling Jesse down the road, not sure how to interpret that. I'm wondering if Walt doesn't consider Jesse going to Hank as being the ultimate betrayal, and is planning on the Nazi's killing him.

However, now that the Nazi's have most of Walt's money, I'm wondering if Walt isn't already aware that they plan on having Jesse cook for them, and he's got the M60 to go save him. That could be shitty pipe dreams, and I'm still not sure what to think about it other than Walt being severely pissed at Jesse and hoping he dies.

On the other hand, the business is still going on and Walt knows it. I suppose we'll find out in the last two episodes what happens

Boss episode. Just boss.

The sauce, boss.

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