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Don't mean to come across rude, but have you tried? How about you try to do some and ask if you've got them right. honeslty it will help you more to do it yourself than to just get the info from someone else.
actually i was trying to figure it out lastnight but i got lazy!! but anyways your right! i should figure it out bymyself maybe u could help me a bit? anyways! peace out
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| Originally posted by henryv actually i was trying to figure it out lastnight but i got lazy!! but anyways your right! i should figure it out bymyself maybe u could help me a bit? anyways! peace out |
Trying to figure out Tranquility Base - Razorfish (Above & Beyond Bangin Mix)... it's tough to believe this could be in C major... a second opinion would help!
Thanks guys
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| Originally posted by djillicit Trying to figure out Tranquility Base - Razorfish (Above & Beyond Bangin Mix)... it's tough to believe this could be in C major... a second opinion would help! Thanks guys |
r there any other websites like mixshare that have a database of tracks u can search through.
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| Originally posted by DJ_RoKo oh ok kool, i've catalogued all my vinyls in orders and tried to work out a set. heres one possibillity; SONYX TRANCE SET 1 1. armin van buuren feat. jan vayne - serenity (signum remix) 136.0bpm 8A 2. ernesto vs bastian - dark side of the moon (marc van linden remix) 137.0bpm 8A - 3. e-craig - call it a day (quick mix-before melody) (212 pm mix) 137.6bpm 12A +4 4. above & beyond - no one on earth (original mix) 138.0bpm 1A +1 5. armas - angels & demons (quick mix-before melody) (carl b remix) 138.0bpm 10A -3 6. fire & ice - let there be light (primer OR original mix) 138.0bpm 11A +1 7. energy 52 - cafe del mar (quick mix-before melody) (marco v remix) 139.2bpm 8A -3 8. hiver and hammer - fusion 2006 (quick mix-use percs) (original mix) 139.6bpm 12A +2 9. wonders - the morning after (quick mix-use percs) (octagen's night before remix) 139.8bpm 2A +2 10. andy b - acceleration (quick mix-before melody) (acceleration) 140.0bpm 6A +4 11. system f - out of the blue (system f 5am mix) 142.5bpm 6A - lol, my collection is very limited atm but is this heading along the right way? -sonykc |
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| Originally posted by sleepydragon r there any other websites like mixshare that have a database of tracks u can search through. |
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| Originally posted by DJFrostie Andy B - Acceleration good ch00n dude |
hey everybody, been a while since i posted here!
wanted to let everybody know that the mixshare.com site has really matured. the server code hosting the online database has been drastically improved. the quality of the information is getting better daily, and growing! there are over 220,000 unique songs entered! the more people that contribute, the more accurate and comprehensive this information gets... i would really like to see it grow even more!
best of all, the rapid evolution tool integrates seamlessly with it. users keep asking me how bpm/key information is automatically there for the songs they add, and i have to tell them it's performing queries to the mixshare site and finding matches, it's not magic ;-) i look forward to the day when people don't have to spend so much time finding the keys to their songs, and the information is just there for people to make use of...
i also want to comment that, i see new programs popping up for key detection such as mixed in key. while they might offer more accurate automatic detection of keys, i think that's about it, and i don't know how much any of the accuracy has been proven or tested. i'd like to see side-by-side comparisons of rapid evolution, mixmeister, mixed in key, etc...
rapid evolution is the only one that's free and community based. it will actually be open sourced in the future! it offers many features these others don't, like detection from live audio input, a midi keyboard to determine the key with your own ear, the ability to share all this info, running on any operating system, etc... so, in my opinion, save your money... ok i'll shut up now ;-)
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| Originally posted by qualia hey everybody, been a while since i posted here! wanted to let everybody know that the mixshare.com site has really matured. the server code hosting the online database has been drastically improved. the quality of the information is getting better daily, and growing! there are over 220,000 unique songs entered! the more people that contribute, the more accurate and comprehensive this information gets... i would really like to see it grow even more! best of all, the rapid evolution tool integrates seamlessly with it. users keep asking me how bpm/key information is automatically there for the songs they add, and i have to tell them it's performing queries to the mixshare site and finding matches, it's not magic ;-) i look forward to the day when people don't have to spend so much time finding the keys to their songs, and the information is just there for people to make use of... i also want to comment that, i see new programs popping up for key detection such as mixed in key. while they might offer more accurate automatic detection of keys, i think that's about it, and i don't know how much any of the accuracy has been proven or tested. i'd like to see side-by-side comparisons of rapid evolution, mixmeister, mixed in key, etc... rapid evolution is the only one that's free and community based. it will actually be open sourced in the future! it offers many features these others don't, like detection from live audio input, a midi keyboard to determine the key with your own ear, the ability to share all this info, running on any operating system, etc... so, in my opinion, save your money... ok i'll shut up now ;-) |
had another update,
wanted to let people know there's an unbiased comparison of key detection software going on at http://www.mixingonbeat.com/phpbb/v...p?p=21494#21494
so far 81 songs have been tested on songs where camelot has identified the key... see the link for details, but here is the summary so far:
rapid evolution 2:
43 correct (53%)
18 compatible (75%)
20 incorrect (25%)
mixmeister 5:
44 correct (54%)
12 compatible (69%)
25 incorrect (31%)
mixedinkey:
33 correct (41%)
24 compatible (70%)
24 incorrect (30%)
the percentage next to the compatible count indicates the degree of songs that are correct OR compatible with the actual key
things to note: this is using the latest version of rapid evolution which has a few improvements to the key detection (2.2.10). also, notice that mixedinkey is nowhere near the 95% accurate that it claims to be...
more songs will be tested, but i'm glad to see a side by side comparison actually done!!!
Good to see someone taking the time do do this. I guess nothing beats the ear then huh?
THANK YOU!
Hey guys I just wanted to say THANKS!
I am just now learning the ropes of hamonic mixing (I didn't know anything about keys until I read this thread), and being that I spin only vinyl I have actually quite a challenge since I cannot rely on software 
I am using the Mixshare.com database to help me out, and I have a question about notation:
How comes certain tracks are indicated as A#m - 3A? Shouldn't 3A correspond to B-Flat minor (I am looking at the Camelot thingy).
For instance, Babe Instinct - Disco Babes from Outer Space, is indicated as A#m - 3A...
Am I missing something? Sorry if this is a retarded question but it's confusing the heck out of me...
Thanks again, keep it up
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| Originally posted by qualia rapid evolution 2: 43 correct (53%) 18 compatible (75%) 20 incorrect (25%) mixmeister 5: 44 correct (54%) 12 compatible (69%) 25 incorrect (31%) mixedinkey: 33 correct (41%) 24 compatible (70%) 24 incorrect (30%) |
after all of nennon's spam i wouldve expected better results.
Re: THANK YOU!
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| Originally posted by SillyR How comes certain tracks are indicated as A#m - 3A? Shouldn't 3A correspond to B-Flat minor (I am looking at the Camelot thingy). |
Re: Re: THANK YOU!
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| Originally posted by skot_e Same thing A# = Bb |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN um, so what youre saying is mixedinkey comes in LAST in the correct stakes after all of nennon's spam i wouldve expected better results. |
I personally don't thrust this analyze by Cualia. One reason is that he is the sole developer of mixshare's rapid evolution and has been bashing "mixed in key" from the start. This just looks like propaganda to me. I want to see a objective and indepenteded analyz done by a "professonal". I would like to point out the only tru way of knowing the key is those done by a musician, and here no one can compete with camelots service.
On the other hand "mixed in key" is using a algorithm that is developed by a german company called zplane(www.zplane.de). Their technology is licensed by many well know companies like; ableton,alcatech(bpm studio), steinberg, native instruments, fruity loops etc etc.
Here is a little info about their key algorithm:
technology
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The input signal is analyzed about its tonal content (pitches) via a filterbank. The filterbank's mid-frequencies are constantly adapted due to the detected standard pitch to increase the detection accuracy. The resulting pitch distribution is analyzed with a sophisticated probability model to check for the most likely key acc. the detected pitch strengths. The detection accuracy is ca. 80 percent, compared to a random detection accuracy of only 4 percent. When classifying related keys as correctly detected, the accuration accuracy is well above 90 percent, making [tONaRT] a reliable and robust technology for automatic key detection. The standard pitch detection has an accuracy of app. 1-2Hz at 440Hz.
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And with new version coming up from "mixed in key" and a key detetion algorithm which is developed by a large and respected company I believe "mixed in key" is the best software choice. And no, I am not getting paid to say this :-)
kind regards
djprince, norway
www.djprince.no
Online since 1996 and key/bpm database/community since 1999
PS! site is currently under updating
i use a program called \'ears\'. it has a 95% accuracy rate.
i dunno pkc, I'm not so sure that my version of that prog is as accurate. I've got nothing to check it against tho. Maybe it just needs to be calibrated over time.
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i use a program called 'ears'. it has a 95% accuracy rate. |
My ears are definitely not trained enough to detect the keys consistently so right now I run my tracks through Mixmeister, then verify the result with the detector in Rapid Evolution while having the piano open. It seems like RE catches the keys that MM gets wrong most of the time, but sometimes you have to run the detect function a couple times just to be sure while you're verifying it on the piano.
It works for me right now and you can never be too sure.
Hopefully in time my ears will catch up : )
djprince,
what i post is not propaganda at all!! i have posted my results clearly and would be happy if people confirm them. i'm not trying to be subjective or misrepresent any program. i'm just the only one who's taken the initiative to find the songs and compare the programs. please show me where i am wrong, otherwise please don't make these accusations.
the only reason i've spoke poorly about mixed in key is that they make false claims about it being 95% accurate, with no proof to back it up. there is also this false reasoning that because the key detection is made by a "large and respected company", that it's better and there's no need to prove it. i don't understand why you give mixed in key so much praise when rapid evolution has all of the features, and more. it might not have been as good in the past, but it's clear now it has the most accurate key detection.
otherwise, i'm happy to see more programs dedicated to harmonic mixing. there has been a lot of misinformation spreading around, and i simply wanted to get the straight facts on how accurate all of these key detection programs were. i think the facts are all that should matter here.
i think if anything, you have a special bias towards mixed in key, as when i visit djprince.no i see advertisements about mixed in key... wouldn't you prefer to have some hard evidence to back what you say?
here are my results, this is not propaganda at all... geez.
the format is: song title -> camelot key -> re2 result -> mm6 -> mm5 -> mixedinkey
Adkins, Trace - Honky Tonk Badonkadonk ('70s Groove Mix) 9A 9A 9A 9A X:11B
Amuka - I Want More (Joe Bermudez & Klubjumpers Mix) 11A 11A 11A 11A 11A
Andy Hunter - To Life To Love (Cedric Gervais Remix - Vocal Club) 5A 5A 5A 5A 5A
Anoushka Shankar - Beloved (Karsh Kale Remix) 11A 3A 11A 11A X:3A
Atfc - Spread Love (Vocal Love Mix) 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A
Atomic Swindlers - Diamond Dreamer (Julian Marsh Power Drive Mix) 4A 4A 4A 4A X:7B
B.G. Ft. Mannie Fresh - Move Around 6A 5A 6A 6A 6A
Big World - Me Gusta (Original Mix) 8B 6A X:6A X:6A X:6B
Bionik Phunk (Sugar Caine Presents) - In My Head (ATFC's Timmy's In My Head Remix) 5A 6A X:8A X:8A X:7B
Bitter:sweet - The Mating Game (Kraak & Smaak Remix) 8A 8A 8A 8A 8A
Bon Jovi - Who Says You Can't Go Home 9B 9B C:8A C:8A 9B
Bravo Mike Ft. Monica Lynk - Someone Like U (New Jersey Mix) 12A 11A C:1A C:1A C:11B
Braxe, Alan & Fred Falke & Savage - Bliss (Original Mix) 9A 9A X:7A X:7A 9A
Bump - House Stompin 06 (Steve Travell and Andy Jones Bump 06 Mix) 4A 4A 4A 4A X:7B
Carey, Mariah Ft. Snoop Dogg - Say Somethin' 12B 1A X:9A X:9A C:11B
Casino - Running on Back to You (Idc Remix) 6A 6A 6A 6A X:9B
Clarkson, Kelly - Walk Away (Craig J Big Love Mixshow) 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A
Codex - Burn (Original Mix) 5A 5A 5A 5A X:8B
Coldplay - Talk (Francois Kevorkian Remix) 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A
Cox, Carl - Give Me Your Love (Valentino Kanzyani Extended reMix) 3A 3A X:1A X:1A 3A
D'mantra, Dan - Shaker (Stroud Remix) 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A
Da Muzicianz Ft. Mr. Collipark - Camera Phone (PO Clean Edit) 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A
De No, Angelica - Again (Klubjumpers Club Mix) 4A 4A 4A 4A X:7B
Dina Vass and Association - Let You Get Away (Original Mix) 8A 8A 8A 8A 8A
Dirtie Blonde - Walk Over Me 9A 10A X:7A X:7A C:9B
DJ Volume Ft. Capretta - White Horse (Club Mix) 8A 8A 8A 8A X:11B
DJ Zulan and Alex Teddy - Time to (Fatblock Remix) 9A 9A 9A 9A X:1B
Djs Are Alive - Gimme Some Love (Main Mix) 6A 6A 6A 6A C:7A
Dobson, Fefe - This Is My Life (Album Version) 7A 7A 7A 7A 7A
Dre Ft. Rick Ross - Chevy Ridin' High (PO Clean Edit) 12A 12A X:2A X:2A C:11A
Dynamic Rockers - Life (Original Mix) 2A 2A 2A 2A 2A
Echo & the Bunnymen - Lips Like Sugar (from the album "Future Retro") (Way Out West Remix Edit) 10A 10A 10A 10A X:1B
Falke, Fred and Savage - Wait for Love (Original Mix) 1A 2A C:12A C:12A C:1B
Field Mob Ft. Ciara - So What (PO Clean Edit) 2A 2A 2A 2A C:3A
Firefox - Sex Shooter (Club Mix) 4A 4A 4A 4A X:7B
Flipsyde - Someday 8A 8A 8A 8A 8A
Foxx, Jamie Ft. Twista - DJ Play A Love Song (PO Clean Edit) 9A 10A 9A 9A C:10A
Fresh 27 Featuring Vicky Fee - Point of View (Jules Spinner Edit) 5A 5A 5A X:7A C:6A
G, Nathan - Flashback (Men in White Suits Club Mix) 2B 11A X:12A X:12A C:1B
Goldfrapp - Ooh La La (Benny Benassi Remix Extended) 8A 8A X:6A X:6A X:11B
Goldfrapp - Ooh La La (Mike "Spike" Stent Single Version) 11B 8A X:8A X:8A 11B
Gotta Featuring Spirit - You Dropped A Bomb on Me (Club Mix 1) 2A 3A X:5A X:5A 2A
Hamilton, Anthony - Pass Me Over 8A 8B 8A 8A C:8B
Harris, Russ (DJ) - Hide & Seek (Extended Mix) 11B 8A X:1A X:1A 11B
Hawthorne Heights - Saying Sorry 12A 12A X:10A X:10A C:12B
Hot Chip - Over and Over (Naum Gabo Remix) 5A 5A 5A 5A X:8A
Hunter, Andy - To Life to Love (Andy Hunter Remix - Vocal Club) 5A 5A 5A 5A C:6A
J, Ray - What I Need 9A 9A X:1A X:1A C:10A
Jonas Brothers - Mandy 4B 4B X:1A X:* 4B
Jones, Donell - I'm Gonna Be 5A 5A C:6A C:6A C:6A
Jura - Take This Out (Mike Da Wizard & Anderstanding Tribaholic Mix) 6A 8A X:1A X:1A X:8A
Kem - Into You 12A 12A C:1A C:1A 12A
Kraft - Rock Da House (3d Team Remix) 5A 5A 5A 5A X:8B
Lachey, Nick - What's Left Of Me 7A 7A 7A 7A X:9B
LL Cool J Feat. Jennifer Lopez - Control Myself (Nevins Elektrotek Mix) 8A 6A 8A 8A X:11B
Matisyahu - King Without A Crown (Album Version) 5A 4A 5A 5A C:6B
Mattee Esse and Sant - The Bass Gets Move (Original Mix) 6A 6A 6A 6A C:7A
Men, Women & Children - Dance in My Blood (Moleman Remix) 1A 12A 1A 1A 1A
Midler, Bette - Fever (L.E.X. Bette's on Fire Club Mix) 8A 8A 8A 8A X:11B
Mobb Deep - Put Em In Their Place (PO Clean Edit) 2A 2A C:1A X:11A 2A
Mr. V - Jus Dance (Cosmic Ritual Dub) 1A 1A 1A 1A 1A
Ne-Yo - When You're Mad (PO Clean Edit) 1B 3A X:10A X:10A C:2B
Northernbeat Featuring Angie Brown - Rockin 4 Myself (Starlet Djs Vs N'bab) 3A 3A 3A 3A X:6B
Nu Frequency - Buy Me (Dub Mix) 2B 11A X:11A X:11A X:11A
Oakenfold, Paul - Faster Kill Pussycat (Club Mix) 10A 6A X:6A X:6A X:7A
Oakenfold, Paul - Faster Kill Pussycat (Roman Hunter Remix) 6A 6A C:5A C:5A C:5A
Philter Kidz Featuring Jl - Real Love (Garron Llang Remix) 12A 12A 12A 12A C:1B
Prince - Black Sweat 11A 1A X:1A X:1A X:1A
Princess Superstar and Larry Tee - Licky (Chris Mennace Mix) 5A 5A 5A 5A 5A
Prodigy, The - Voodoo People (Pendulum Remix) 1A 1A 1A 1A 1A
Purple Ribbon All-Stars - Body Rock (PO Clean Edit) 4A 4A X:9A X:9A X:7B
Radio 4 - Dance to the Underground (DFA Remix) 8A 8A 8A 8A 8A
Ross, Rick - Hustlin' 1A 1A 1A 1A 1A
Rupaul Feat. Tom Trujillo - People Are People (Giuseppe D's Rutroactive Club) 8A 8A 8A 8A 8A
Saint Etienne - Stars Above Us (DJ Jeff Barringer Club Mix) 7A 10A 7A 7A X:11A
Santaolalla, Gustavo - The Wings (the Theme to Brokeback Mountain) 7A 6A C:8A C:8A C:8A
Sean Ensign - It's My Life (Finally) (Mike Cruz' Vox Club Mix) 6A 6A C:7A C:7A X:8A
Shinedown - I Dare You (Rock Mix) 4B 4B X:1A X:1A 4B
Spikiri Ft. Hugh Masekela - Spiyanko (Roots Mix) 8A 8A C:9A X:11A 8A
Stargazer - Feel Good (Original Mix) 8A 8A 8A 8A 8A
Stereo K - A Man Can Change the World (Danny Jc Remix) 9A 8A X:4A X:4A C:10A
T.I. - What You Know (PO Clean Edit) 1B 2A C:2A C:2A C:2A
Tamar Ft. Price - Beautiful, Loved & Blessed 11B 11A C:11A C:11A 11B
Trick-Trick Ft. Jazze Pha - Attitude Adjustment (PO Clean Edit) 3A 8A X:11A X:11A 3A
Tunstall, KT - Black Horse & The Cherry Tree 9A 9A 9A 9A 9A
Vale, Jessica - Disco Libido (Dave Aude Future Disco Clean Mixshow) 6A 5A 6A 6A 6A
Vicious, Johnny Ft. Judy Albanese - Can't Let Go (Johnny's House Mix) 5A 5A 5A 5A 5A
Vicious, Johnny Ft. Judy Albanese - Cant Let Go (Tribal H2 Vocal) 6A 8A X:10A X:10A C:5A
Wall, Paul - Girl 10B 6A C:9A C:9A 10B
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Gold Lion (Diplo Remix) 11B 11A C:11A C:11A 11B
Young Leek - Jiggle It 4A 3A 4A 4A X:8A
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