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Originally posted by steven-neil watching the game on Mlb.com......Also Ichiro was thrown into the equation.....

Ichiro would be my number one choice. I heard that he's content to stay in seattle. So im not sure about the viability of that. Plus Ichiro is a much better player than giambi, and much cheaper, so i don't think he's would be traded for giambi. Ichiro would be an offseason move.

Wow...i just looked at figgin's stats. He's sucking up this season. WTF is going on with him. I think it might be a decent trade if we get some quality minor league talent too. Also, im not sure about figgins first base skills (haven't seen him play there). We would lose OBP in a figgins-giambi trade, but we would gain defense, and base running skills. I'm not sure how i feel about it. Although i can't see the trade happening unless there is significant minor league players included. Giambi's power is coveted so i doubt this will happen.

Surprise, Surprise.....Carl Pavano is getting elbow surgery that will end his yankees career.

This had to be the worst contract in the history of sports. $40 million for 4 years. When his contract is over next year, here is what the yankees will have received: a record of 5-7 in 19 starts. 19 starts in 4 years. I can't fucking believe that. Over the life of the contract he will have received 2.1 million per start. What a fucking deal for that loser!!!!

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Surprise, Surprise.....Carl Pavano is getting elbow surgery that will end his yankees career. This had to be the worst contract in the history of sports. $40 million for 4 years. When his contract is over next year, here is what the yankees will have received: a record of 5-7 in 19 starts. 19 starts in 4 years. I can't fucking believe that. Over the life of the contract he will have received 2.1 million per start. What a fucking deal for that loser!!!!

that was a pretty bad deal, the Mike Hampton contract is pretty bad as well. I would put Giambi's contract into that group too...

hmm Doug Mientkiewicz hit a homer in Wednesdays game -- cool. at least hes contributing even though hes not the permanent first baseman.

im reading the article on Yankees.com. wow, ineffective and Curt Schilling used in the same sentence. Wasn't he supposed to be one of the BoSox pitchers that had a good record against the Yankees? I know Wakefield had such a reputation in the past.


im so happy everyones hitting well. Go Jeter, AROD and Cano, (yes ill recognize it when they do well ), Posada, and go Matsui who has been hitting so well. and that Andy got the win GOOO no 46!!!

ooh...i think theres a chance we will be hitting up the Sunday game at Yankees Stadium for the last game of the Subway Series matchup!!!!

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Originally posted by ludawg23 that was a pretty bad deal, the Mike Hampton contract is pretty bad as well. I would put Giambi's contract into that group too...

Zito's deal with the Giants is on pace to outdo pavano

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 This had to be the worst contract in the history of sports. $40 million for 4 years. When his contract is over next year, here is what the yankees will have received: a record of 5-7 in 19 starts. 19 starts in 4 years. I can't fucking believe that. Over the life of the contract he will have received 2.1 million per start. What a fucking deal for that loser!!!!

in all of sports? Not by far

Allan Houston's $100+ million disaster was by far worse than Pavano

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Originally posted by verndogs Allan Houston's $100+ million disaster was by far worse than Pavano

+1 to that for sure. my stomach turned once i heard that announcement made; i knew that was a huuuge mistake (and i was a DIEHARD Knick fan at the time)

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Originally posted by verndogs in all of sports? Not by far Allan Houston's $100+ million disaster was by far worse than Pavano

at least allan houston produced something. Maybe in all sports was too strong. But this is the only contract i know of at this size where the player DIDN'T contribute at all. Contributions below expectations aren't as bad as nothing at all. But you may be right, im not a basketball fan.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 at least allan houston produced something. Maybe in all sports was too strong. But this is the only contract i know of at this size where the player DIDN'T contribute at all. Contributions below expectations aren't as bad as nothing at all. But you may be right, im not a basketball fan.

his contract CRIPPLED the knicks in a system where a salary cap is present. his value in the market was worth around 50 million dollars. He got double his market value, essentially earning the same salary as Shaq. His contract prevented the knicks from going after all the free agents since they were annually over the cap from the 2002 season until now.


Pavano simply was just a mediocre pitcher with one really good year in 2004. He just ended up more fragile than an eggshell once he put on pinstripes.


Was this signing a disater for the yankees? Absolutely. Was it the worst in the history of sports? Not at all.

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Originally posted by verndogs his contract CRIPPLED the knicks in a system where a salary cap is present. his value in the market was worth around 50 million dollars. He got double his market value, essentially earning the same salary as Shaq. His contract prevented the knicks from going after all the free agents since they were annually over the cap from the 2002 season until now. Pavano simply was just a mediocre pitcher with one really good year in 2004. He just ended up more fragile than an eggshell once he put on pinstripes. Was this signing a disater for the yankees? Absolutely. Was it the worst in the history of sports? Not at all.

Good point. Like i said, i don't follow basketball. In fact, i don't follow any salary cap sport. If houston crippled the team as you say, he certainly beats out pavano.

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Originally posted by verndogs his contract CRIPPLED the knicks in a system where a salary cap is present. his value in the market was worth around 50 million dollars. He got double his market value, essentially earning the same salary as Shaq. His contract prevented the knicks from going after all the free agents since they were annually over the cap from the 2002 season until now.

last word about Houston: I never thought he was WORTH his salary, even prior to the contract...his failure to help Spreewell win that GAME 6 or 7 (Spree scored 35 on his OWN) against the SPURS was def a debacle. I think when i heard about that crazy contract, i just lost faith in Knicks mgmt overall and stopped watching. well they never truly bounced back...

I believe the angels still own the yanks for the 5th year in a row

edit: they're the only AL Team to have a winning percentage against the Yankees during the Joe Torre era

^^ *shakes head*


its so hard to imagine that the Yankees are actually in 2nd place behind the BOSOX even if they are 11 games back...is all of baseball in the AL East just suckin' this year????

well who knows, they may just have a chance yet. but stop it with those freakin' errors tho...and get outta that slump Abreu!!!

man at this rate, someone on the mgmt side is soooo gonna lose his job at seasons end and imo he should have been let go much earlier....

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Originally posted by verndogs I believe the angels still own the yanks for the 5th year in a row edit: they're the only AL Team to have a winning percentage against the Yankees during the Joe Torre era

you were obviously watching the game. I think they said that in the beginning. I hate when the yankees play the angels. I can't remember the yankees actually ever winning a series. I know they have, its just that the angels kill the yankees.

what's the deal with Mike Scioscia?? I wasn't watching ever minute of every game, but i don't remember seeing him once on tv. I do remember seeing Ron Roenicke (angels bench coach) on many occasions.

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Originally posted by phoenixBEBE ^^ *shakes head* its so hard to imagine that the Yankees are actually in 2nd place behind the BOSOX even if they are 11 games back...is all of baseball in the AL East just suckin' this year???? well who knows, they may just have a chance yet. but stop it with those freakin' errors tho...and get outta that slump Abreu!!! man at this rate, someone on the mgmt side is soooo gonna lose his job at seasons end and imo he should have been let go much earlier....

Ummm....yankees are in fourth place.

I really hate to say this, but unless boston starts losing pitchers on the DL, i don't really see the yankees overtaking them. In order for the yankees to match last years total wins they have to win 76 of the remaining 114 games (.666 winning percentage). That just isn't something i see happening. Similarly, boston needs only to maintain a modest .557 winning percent to reach 97 wins. Unfortunately, our hope in winning this divison probably rests on an injury of a boston pitcher.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 you were obviously watching the game. I think they said that in the beginning. I hate when the yankees play the angels. I can't remember the yankees actually ever winning a series. I know they have, its just that the angels kill the yankees.

I actually saw that on the AP writeup on the preview of the game for today. Every time I've seen the Angels at Yankee Stadium, they always won. However, when I went to Angel Stadium out in Anaheim last April (the Yankees happen to be in town), the entire Yankee lineup had batting practice off Bartolo Colon and won big.

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Originally posted by verndogs I actually saw that on the AP writeup on the preview of the game for today. Every time I've seen the Angels at Yankee Stadium, they always won. However, when I went to Angel Stadium out in Anaheim last April (the Yankees happen to be in town), the entire Yankee lineup had batting practice off Bartolo Colon and won big.

i actually remember that game. Maybe the schmucks on YES read the ap wire too.

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Originally posted by phoenixBEBE last word about Houston: I never thought he was WORTH his salary, even prior to the contract...his failure to help Spreewell win that GAME 6 or 7 (Spree scored 35 on his OWN) against the SPURS was def a debacle. I think when i heard about that crazy contract, i just lost faith in Knicks mgmt overall and stopped watching. well they never truly bounced back...

Exactly. I think Allan houston was awesome for us when he was healthy... I've heard a lot of people blame the guy for the huge contract... but it's not his fault dumbass Layden gave him that massive contract, outbidding the next highest bidder by like 40 million...

thankfully, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but it looks like Isiah has the team going in somewhat the right direction w/ the young players and cutting payroll for the 2009/2010 seasons, when the big FAs hit the market

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 i actually remember that game. Maybe the schmucks on YES read the ap wire too.

i just want to add about Angel Stadium:

it's underrated as a stadium. they did a great job transforming the stadium from a dual purpose field to a baseball exclusive facility.

Everything is reasonably priced (compared to both NY stadiums). Nice to see the hills past center field. The fountain and the rocks look cheesy on TV but less on in person.

no bars or shops within walking distance of the game however.

it's not the best stadium, but it pleasantly surprised me.

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Originally posted by verndogs i just want to add about Angel Stadium: no bars or shops within walking distance of the game however. it's not the best stadium, but it pleasantly surprised me.

There's nothing within walking distance anywhere in california.

The A's stadium, McAfee i think its called, is far worse. There is nothing anywhere near that place.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 There's nothing within walking distance anywhere in california.

Only holds through for 3 of the 5 california ballparks (Dodger Stadium, Angel Stadium, and McAffee Coliseum)

Take Petco Park in San Diego for instance. The ballpark is right downtown in the Gaslamp district (Nightlife area). There is a ton of restaurants, bars and hotels nearby. It's the closest thing that matches Wrigleyville in terms of neighborhood IMO.

Another example is AT&T Park in San Fransisco. There are a bunch of restaurants and bars nearby.


As for McAffee Coliseum. They have 1 hot dog stand near the BART Station. That's it

Dodger Stadium has nothing within walking distance.

Best stadium as far as Im concerned (I know this is herecy) is Fenway, thers just such an old time feel, and the bars nearby, Landsdown ST , the seating, it just has a great feel. Most of the Boston fans are just plain funny, when they abuse us Yankee fans they come out with some great lines. In terms of cities to visit that have a team, my favorite is Toronto, the spectcle of the roof opening and closing is still worth the price of admission, but it does get stuffy when roof is closed. Its wierd that a bunch of people call themselves New Yorkers, since they are from Rochester, Syracuse, and Buffalo, and Toronto is way closer than the Bronx, but they should not refer to themselves as New Yorkers, the only thing we have in common is taxes and Spitzer. Anyways Toronto is reallly cosmopolitan, great bars, restaurants, just a great pulse to the city, well worth visiting if you want a city with a vibe and for a TA, they ahve great club events there. Worst stadium, which you have to see before its gone, is RFK in DC, Holy Shit the place is so bad its definitly worth going. I went to the old Phillies stadium whcih was garbage similar to Shea, but I love the city for the walking tours, chestnut St, and Geno's-of course.Chicago's Wrigley is a great stadium, but the people dont have the spirit of the Northeast,a little subdued, but the food in Chicago is great, forget about pizza, do steak and ribs. Baltimore is overated, its boring and everything is so fake, its all scripted out, opposiste of Fenway, people have no energy, probably because its like a big KKK meeting, with all white people

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Originally posted by southbound24 Best stadium as far as Im concerned (I know this is herecy) is Fenway, thers just such an old time feel, and the bars nearby, Landsdown ST , the seating, it just has a great feel. Most of the Boston fans are just plain funny, when they abuse us Yankee fans they come out with some great lines.

Agreed. The Fens is #1 and the only stadium that can legitimately challenge it's greatness is Wrigley.

RFK used to be very similar in terms of energy - my Dad always said that in the late 80s, early 90s there was not a louder venue in sports. With the fans jumping up and down on the steel seats screaming "We Want Dallas!" Of course now the Skins have moved to an abominable stadium and haven't been legitimately good for 15 years while RFK remains old, outdated and only used for MLS games.

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Originally posted by southbound24

now i'm compelled to rank and describe every ballpark i've been to

this will take a while

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