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if I had to rank all the active ballparks that I've been to

1. PNC Park: Pittsburgh Pirates
2. AT&T Park: San Francisco Giants
3. Oriole Park at Camden Yards: Baltimore Orioles
4. Wrigley Field: Chicago Cubs
5. Citizens Bank Park: Philadelphia Phillies
6. Petco Park: San Diego Padres
7. Dodger Stadium: Los Angeles Dodgers
8. Busch Stadium: St. Louis Cardinals
9. Turner Field: Atlanta Braves
10. Jacobs Field: Cleveland Indians
11. Angels Stadium: Anaheim Angels
12. Fenway Park: Boston Red Sox
13. US Cellular Field: Chicago White Sox
14. Miller Park: Milwaukee Brewers
15. Chase Field: Arizona Diamondbacks
16. Yankee Stadium: New York Yankees
17. Shea Stadium: New York Mets
18. RFK Stadium: Washington Nationals
19. Tropicana Field: Tampa Bay Devil Rays
20. McAfee Coliseum: Oakland A's

edit: after further thought, angel stadium is better than fenway park IMO

lol

uve been wanting to do that for awhile now, havent u Vern?

Yes ive passed by PETCO *and* AT&T Park by car when I visited both areas -- pretty good areas for the stadium to be located at.

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Originally posted by verndogs if I had to rank all the active ballparks that I've been to 1. PNC Park: Pittsburgh Pirates 2. AT&T Park: San Francisco Giants 3. Oriole Park at Camden Yards: Baltimore Orioles 4. Wrigley Field: Chicago Cubs 5. Citizens Bank Park: Philadelphia Phillies 6. Petco Park: San Diego Padres 7. Dodger Stadium: Los Angeles Dodgers 8. Busch Stadium: St. Louis Cardinals 9. Turner Field: Atlanta Braves 10. Jacobs Field: Cleveland Indians 11. Fenway Park: Boston Red Sox 12. Angels Stadium: Anaheim Angels 13. US Cellular Field: Chicago White Sox 14. Miller Park: Milwaukee Brewers 15. Chase Field: Arizona Diamondbacks 16. Yankee Stadium: New York Yankees 17. Shea Stadium: New York Mets 18. RFK Stadium: Washington Nationals 19. Tropicana Field: Tampa Bay Devil Rays 20. McAfee Coliseum: Oakland A's

Damn you get around. You've already been to the new busch stadium?

what exactly is your criteria? Apparently you are giving higher ratings for newer parks, presumably with more modern amenities (except tampa).

Shea is a shit-hole and should be nowhere near yankees stadium, for that matter, i thought mcafee was better than shea, much better.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Damn you get around. You've already been to the new busch stadium? what exactly is your criteria? Apparently you are giving higher ratings for newer parks, presumably with more modern amenities (except tampa). Shea is a shit-hole and should be nowhere near yankees stadium, for that matter, i thought mcafee was better than shea, much better.

i can't stand either of the new york stadiums. agreed that shea stadium is a pisshole but yankee stadium isn't that great a place to view games either. the concourses are narrow and you really feel that when leaving the stadium. the seats are a bit cramped. i think new yorkers have been kind of cheated out of a great baseball experience for a long time.

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Originally posted by djstopngo Agreed. The Fens is #1 and the only stadium that can legitimately challenge it's greatness is Wrigley.

have you been to wrigley?

Favorite Stadiums
1. Fenway
2. Yankee
3. Skydome-toronto
4.Wrigley
5.Baltimore
6.Staten island
7. Brooklyn
8. Trenton
9.Newwark
10. Old Philly
11. RFK
12. Shea

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Damn you get around.

I plan on visiting all of them and the new ones that pop up. I try to go to 3-5 a year.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 You've already been to the new busch stadium?

Yes. It's nice, but it lacks character. They really did a half ass job when building the stadium. However, my opinion may change since I eventually plan on visiting it again when they finish up building the "Ballpark Village".

However, the fans are the best in baseball. Not even debatable. They literally live and die off baseball.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 what exactly is your criteria?

Seat/comfort is #1, then in no particular order, neighborhood, access to the ballpark, outside architecture, view you see past center field, anything memorable about the ballpark for the most part.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Apparently you are giving higher ratings for newer parks, presumably with more modern amenities (except tampa).

Not quite.

I have wrigley as my #4 favorite ballpark. They actually get the concept of leg room. Plus Wrigleyville is a phenomenal neighborhood to be around before and after the game.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Shea is a shit-hole and should be nowhere near yankees stadium, for that matter,

Yankee Stadium is no better. It's narrow and cramped, plus you got eye sores between the left field boxes and the bleachers. (The garbage collector).

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 i thought mcafee was better than shea, much better.

It has the charm of Rikers Island and the center field seats, affectionately known as "Mount Davis", is a killer. However, the fans are phenominal. Oakland fans are great.

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Originally posted by verndogs have you been to wrigley?

Yeah, I go to school in Chicago - the two times I've gone we had seats in right field. Really cool area, stadium, people and atmosphere. Great place to catch a ballgame in my opinion.

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Originally posted by verndogs if I had to rank all the active ballparks that I've been to 1. PNC Park: Pittsburgh Pirates 2. AT&T Park: San Francisco Giants 3. Oriole Park at Camden Yards: Baltimore Orioles 4. Wrigley Field: Chicago Cubs 5. Citizens Bank Park: Philadelphia Phillies 6. Petco Park: San Diego Padres 7. Dodger Stadium: Los Angeles Dodgers 8. Busch Stadium: St. Louis Cardinals 9. Turner Field: Atlanta Braves 10. Jacobs Field: Cleveland Indians 11. Angels Stadium: Anaheim Angels 12. Fenway Park: Boston Red Sox 13. US Cellular Field: Chicago White Sox 14. Miller Park: Milwaukee Brewers 15. Chase Field: Arizona Diamondbacks 16. Yankee Stadium: New York Yankees 17. Shea Stadium: New York Mets 18. RFK Stadium: Washington Nationals 19. Tropicana Field: Tampa Bay Devil Rays 20. McAfee Coliseum: Oakland A's edit: after further thought, angel stadium is better than fenway park IMO

That's impressive..I've only bin to Fenway,,Shea and Yankee Stadium...I'm surprised that Camden Yards aint top however...Most people that I speak to would put it as number one..

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Originally posted by djstopngo Yeah, I go to school in Chicago - the two times I've gone we had seats in right field. Really cool area, stadium, people and atmosphere. Great place to catch a ballgame in my opinion.

I swear, old style beer is only good in the bleachers at wrigley field. I can't explain it

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Originally posted by steven-neil That's impressive..I've only bin to Fenway,,Shea and Yankee Stadium...I'm surprised that Camden Yards aint top however...Most people that I speak to would put it as number one..

PNC takes the nod over Camden Yards since it's smaller and more intimate and the view past the outfield is incredible.

They're both excellent ballparks in their own right.

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Originally posted by djstopngo Agreed. The Fens is #1 and the only stadium that can legitimately challenge it's greatness is Wrigley. RFK used to be very similar in terms of energy - my Dad always said that in the late 80s, early 90s there was not a louder venue in sports. With the fans jumping up and down on the steel seats screaming "We Want Dallas!" Of course now the Skins have moved to an abominable stadium and haven't been legitimately good for 15 years while RFK remains old, outdated and only used for MLS games.

great fan vibe does not necessarily mean a great venue.

A-Rod is surely enjoying Toronto

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Originally posted by partyhopper A-Rod is surely enjoying Toronto

especially after yelling in the 3rd baseman's ear. Haha...that shit was funny. It seems to me arod is kind of a dirty little player: this and the infamous boston ball swat. I can't really hate though.

A sweep of boston would do wonders for moral.

Oh yeah...wtf is up with Youk? This dude is for real. I was definitely a non-believer (probably because his protruding chin drives me crazy), but he is no joke this year. Although he did start off well last year and then slipped off at the end of last year (admittedly not this well). so i guess we'll have to look out for that.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 especially after yelling in the 3rd baseman's ear. Haha...that shit was funny. It seems to me arod is kind of a dirty little player: this and the infamous boston ball swat. I can't really hate though.

yeah what was that all about?!! i heard about it briefly last night. ahaha.

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Originally posted by partyhopper A-Rod is surely enjoying Toronto

dirty, but legal lol

I gave up drinking then realized we got the "Red Scum" tonight...

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Originally posted by steven-neil I gave up drinking then realized we got the "Red Scum" tonight...

it's okay, a little puff puff will make you not give a shit.

Although I feel pretty good about tonight considering we have wang and they have wakefield. We usually do a number on him.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 it's okay, a little puff puff will make you not give a shit. Although I feel pretty good about tonight considering we have wang and they have wakefield. We usually do a number on him.

I thought tonight would have been a good opportunity to bring in Clemens and so did Sheila...Wakefield is their weakest link and I just think Wang is wasted against him..Unless Torre is just looking to pick up the one certain victory....

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Originally posted by steven-neil I thought tonight would have been a good opportunity to bring in Clemens and so did Sheila...Wakefield is their weakest link and I just think Wang is wasted against him..Unless Torre is just looking to pick up the one certain victory....

moving pitchers out of their spot in the rotation is a little touchy because then everyone else gets bump down a day (which can throw off rhythm) or you have to skip wang altogether (which certainly isn't something we want).

we have mussina (v. schilling) and pettitte (v. beckett) going for us the next days so it isn't that bad. I don't think we'll see a replay of shilling's debacle, but i think Beckett is due for loss number 1, which may happen given pettitte is opposite him.

Oh....let me add. don't be too disappointed when clemens doesn't post a sub-4 era this year. He definitely lost some stuff, and the NL central was the probably the weakest division in baseball, offensively, the last 3 years.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Oh....let me add. don't be too disappointed when clemens doesn't post a sub-4 era this year. He definitely lost some stuff, and the NL central was the probably the weakest division in baseball, offensively, the last 3 years.

my prediction for his first start against a punchless white sox offense:

6.0 IP, 2 ER, 5 Hits, 6 Ks

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Originally posted by verndogs my prediction for his first start against a punchless white sox offense: 6.0 IP, 2 ER, 5 Hits, 6 Ks

I'm not that confident. I think he'll be around 6 IP, but he'll give up 4 runs +/- 1, let up 6 or 7 hits, and strike out 5-6.

from what i've been watching his FB is off about 5 mph.

Nice to see the yankees win finally. Hopefully we can knock off schilling early also.

All I gotta say is...Go Proctor !!!...Serves Youk right for having such a big head....

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