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1G Protein - 4 kcal
1G Carb - 4 kcal
1G fat - 9kcal


calorie deficit = weightloss. Limiting fat intake will obviously help you lose weight.



I dont know what you're trying to spoon feed here fledz.

You need to make up your mind whether you're arguing about cholesterol or about weight loss.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit How about this, try eating 48 eggs whole a week. That's right 7 eggs each day just like a protein shake whole. Try it for about 3 months then get a physical.

Pfft. Mariusz Pudzianowski eats 10 eggs and 2-3 lbs of bacon every day, and that's just breakfast.

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Originally posted by Fledz Also ziptnf - If you're trying to lose weight, then carbohydrates and sugar are what you should be targeting, not fats. It's quite simple, if you burn off more kilojoules than you take in, you lose weight. More muscle mass also increases your resting metabolism. In practice it's quite straight forward. Focusing on fats and the amount of cholesterol will get you nowhere fast.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You need to make up your mind whether you're arguing about cholesterol or about weight loss.

that last point was directed towards weightloss.

point 1:

Cholesterol is significant, albeit not as significant as it is generally portrayed to be, but none the less significant (case in point the eggs eggsample )

I showed this by the amount of LDL cholesterol contained in 1 egg. If you can't change your low cholesterol through diet? then how else are you suppose to change it.. through drugs? People who eat unhealthy, high cholesterol foods WILL be definatley more suceptible to high cholesterol. I'm not talking about the outliers who have abnormal cholesterol metabolism im talking a general correlation here.

point 2:


Of course the amount of fats you ingest will effect your weight loss. Weight loss is controlled by creating a calorie deficit. If you eat high calorie foods you will gain weight (this is a no brainer) now if fats have the highest caloric density, out of fats carbs and proteins, what does that tell you about ingesting fats? and how will reducing fat intake effect net calories per day?

This is a general formula here which can also be affected by metabolism.



FOOD goes in as carbs, fats and protein = 100% energy.

Energy remaining, not used and stored => fat

It actually does not matter what foods you eat when creating a calorific deficit. In my final year of university I lost about 20lbs in three months despite eating non-stop junk food just because I had a calorific deficit. You can live on fried chicken and whiskey and you'll still lose weight if you have a deficit. And eggs are not "high calorie food". Even eating seven whole eggs a day will only give you around 560 calories, which is not a deal breaker.

The argument isn't anywhere near this simple, anyway. You can lose weight indiscriminately simply by creating a deficit, but the real challenge of weight loss is losing bodyfat while maintaining lean muscle mass. That's more complex - it's not just what you eat but how regularly you eat, the size of the meals and the proportional nutritional composition of each meal.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Pfft. Mariusz Pudzianowski eats 10 eggs and 2-3 lbs of bacon every day, and that's just breakfast.

4 pack lol

POLSKA NUMBER 1!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You need to make up your mind whether you're arguing about cholesterol or about weight loss.

Seriously. I don't even understand what he's trying to argue about any more

So yeah.

As I said a while ago, I switched up a couple things. My arms were looking too beefy so instead of doing dips I'm doing overhead tricep extensions. 3 sets of 20 @ 10 lbs. Made a big difference. I dropped the weight and increased the reps on my bicep curls too.

I do goblet squats with a 40lb dumbbell, and dead lifts with about 55 lbs.

Also been doing jackknife situps (love em!), and I'm up to 75-80 seconds with planks (still hate 'em ).

For some reason I always expect you to be much stronger than you actually are.

Jacknife situps

What do you mean? Like I should be lifting heavier weight? I'm pretty small. My legs are quite strong, but I wouldn't risk lifting too much more weight with just free weights.

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Originally posted by Fledz Jacknife situps

edit: I don't go all the way back flat though. I keep my feet and hands just off the ground.

Oh right, that. Not bad. I prefer weighted situps though, working more slowly.

Love the plank with a swiss ball

Yeah I'm gonna attempt a plank variation where you extend out from the bench (feet on the bench, hands on the floor) and walk yourself around the bench with your hands. 3 times. I *think* I should be able to manage, though it might prove difficult to hold plank while also adding the extra breathing effort. We'll see.

Doing dick stretches all day respect

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It actually does not matter what foods you eat when creating a calorific deficit. In my final year of university I lost about 20lbs in three months despite eating non-stop junk food just because I had a calorific deficit. You can live on fried chicken and whiskey and you'll still lose weight if you have a deficit. And eggs are not "high calorie food". Even eating seven whole eggs a day will only give you around 560 calories, which is not a deal breaker. The argument isn't anywhere near this simple, anyway. You can lose weight indiscriminately simply by creating a deficit, but the real challenge of weight loss is losing bodyfat while maintaining lean muscle mass. That's more complex - it's not just what you eat but how regularly you eat, the size of the meals and the proportional nutritional composition of each meal.

are you shitting me?


how does it not matter if fats are 9 kcal?


so you eat 500 g of carbs or you eat 500 g of fats.. which one is going to create more of a surplus?



500 * 4 = 2000 kcal (carbs)
500* 9 = 4500 kcal (fats)

4500 > 2000

thus consuming foods with high fat content will lead to a higher caloric surplus

simple equation here


so you cant say that eating less high fat foods is not going to help with weightloss.

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Originally posted by Fledz Seriously. I don't even understand what he's trying to argue about any more

perhaps if you stopped misinforming people and read what i wrote it could help.


telling people:

A) cholesterol intake wont effect your cholesterol levels....

B) eating less fatty foods won't help with weightloss....


are two statements taken at face value which are grossly incorrect.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit so you eat 500 g of carbs or you eat 500 g of fats.. which one is going to create more of a surplus?

Nobody calculates their diet in that way, you complete cretin. Look at the nutritional information of any food and the calories are the first fucking number. You work out your calorific requirement (there are simple and accurate equations) and you work out the calories in the food you eat in a day. Just keep the second number lower than the first number and you can live on KFC and you will lose weight. I have done it.

You really are outstandingly stupid, Karim.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Nobody calculates their diet in that way, you complete cretin. Look at the nutritional information of any food and the calories are the first fucking number. You work out your calorific requirement (there are simple and accurate equations) and you work out the calories in the food you eat in a day. Just keep the second number lower than the first number and you can live on KFC and you will lose weight. I have done it. You really are outstandingly stupid, Karim.

and how is this relevant at all to what i am saying.

If you knew how to read, all i am saying is that fats contain more calories then carbs and proteins. If you eat less fats you will consume less calories.


for the 5000000th time dumbass

theres probably a good reason as to why you are on welfare.. i think ive figured it out.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit and how is this relevant at all to what i am saying.

Because you are claiming "consuming foods with high fat content will lead to a higher caloric surplus". Consuming too much food with high fat content with high fat content lead to a calorific surplus, but it's incredibly easy to anyone who isn't a fuckwit to ensure that doesn't happen. Anyone who is on a diet will count calories first.

Bottom line is: fat content is irrelevant to indiscriminate weight loss. Calories are relevant. Get it through your useless fucking skull.

And I'm not on welfare, you clown. I have a job.

You didn't answer my question. I want to know if you were attempting to insult me.

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