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Posted by ohmegah7 on Jul-14-2006 03:47:

try 700. get an ipod


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-14-2006 04:05:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
well then i guess you cant cut it because 200 odd tracks is nothing...cretin


no, thats why i key them all manually fuckwit. if you have the spare time to sit down and mix every single one of your tracks and then memorise which ones go together then you musnt get out much.

but thanks for yet another useless contribution to this thread. you should be proud.


Posted by davemolina on Jul-14-2006 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
all i have to say is keep your keys to yourself. use your ears, trial and error. some people werent made to be deejays


...and some people weren't meant to be GOOD djs.


Posted by ohmegah7 on Jul-14-2006 04:31:

fuck this thread


Posted by davemolina on Jul-14-2006 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
fuck this thread




Thank you, Come again!!!


Posted by skip on Jul-14-2006 09:36:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
fuck this thread



LOL!


Posted by Zild on Jul-14-2006 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
all i have to say is keep your keys to yourself. use your ears, trial and error. some people werent made to be deejays


I bet you're tonedeaf as all hell and don't even know it. I've found that 99% of people who think they can key just by ear and without any reference are approximately dead wrong.


Posted by ohmegah7 on Jul-14-2006 16:47:

no i pretty much think it's bullshit that people live by this thread. so-called dj's can't do their own homework, relying on some douche bag to do it for them


Posted by davemolina on Jul-14-2006 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
no i pretty much think it's bullshit that people live by this thread. so-called dj's can't do their own homework, relying on some douche bag to do it for them


WTF are you talking about? People key their own tracks and use online databases and programs as reference points to see if they're on the right track.

Maybe you should read the thread before you post a commentary on it...douchebag.


Posted by Zild on Jul-14-2006 17:05:

Yeah you have the wrong idea. The emphasis here is for people to learn how to key their own tracks and to learn more about music theory and harmonic mixing. But that cannot be done without references. It is difficult to learn anything without having somewhere you can look to see if you are right or wrong.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-15-2006 05:55:

ohmegah7 is a congenital idiot.


Posted by ohmegah7 on Jul-15-2006 19:42:

and pkcRAISTLIN is a fucking cock munching ****** who can't manage 200 songs. i mean do you even have a gig


Posted by skot_e on Jul-15-2006 23:32:

Is this an alias? 6 posts only, all in this thread with nothing constructive to say?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-16-2006 02:06:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
and pkcRAISTLIN is a fucking cock munching ****** who can't manage 200 songs. i mean do you even have a gig


haha. and ^^ is a liar and a moron. hasnt quite figured out the maths on what it would take to do what he's saying for his 700 tunes. he would have to mix 699 + 698 + 697 etc etc all the way to 1 to know which songs work well together. obviously someone with that time doesnt have anything else to do. but glad i have!

loser.


Posted by Benjamin DuBose on Jul-16-2006 02:21:

lets please leave this post for people who want to learn things and for people who want to help other people.

for the guy talking shit no one worry about him as he will be the one who is a drunk with know friends later in life.


Posted by ohmegah7 on Jul-16-2006 19:23:

Thumbs up

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Thumbs upi would expect those poor grammar skills coming from houstonhttp://img.tranceaddict.com/images/icons/wavey.gif
Hello!


Posted by skip on Jul-16-2006 20:09:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
http://img.tranceaddict.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Thumbs upi would expect those poor grammar skills coming from houstonhttp://img.tranceaddict.com/images/icons/wavey.gif
Hello!




you're not very bright are you?

if you'd have only 100 tunes it would require 9,3326 * 10^157 takes to mix them all with each other (100! = 9,3326 * 10^157). let's say every mix would take 2 minutes (which is on the low side as turning your equipment on etc. takes time too). if my calculations are correct, it would take you 3,5512 * 10^152 years to mix all those 100 tunes together with each other if you would do it 24/7/356. and many people have way more tunes than that. you mentioned 700 tunes, that would take a whole lot more years to mix. and you're gonna run out of years even with 100 tunes, so maybe you better stfu for good now and start mixing.


Posted by skot_e on Jul-16-2006 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
http://img.tranceaddict.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Thumbs upi would expect those poor grammar skills coming from houstonhttp://img.tranceaddict.com/images/icons/wavey.gif
Hello!

upi?..... grammar skills?
LOL


Posted by skot_e on Jul-16-2006 20:34:

10 records mixed with each other will give you 3,628,800 possible combinations (10x9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1). Using skips 2 mins per mix gives 120,960 hours mixing which is 5040 days constant mixing with no sleep or about 13 yrs.

You'd be one cranky SOB.

But then with 700 songs on your ipod, I guess you'd just use random.


Posted by ohmegah7 on Jul-16-2006 22:16:

the , uh, "thumbs upi" is a script error. for some reason it printed the icon and the code and did not even print the other icon. I dont even know what you're talking about. if you just listen to your tunes and know how they go you would'nt need to mix 24/7. christ, just key them up your self, make a playlist the 12 basic keys, listen to them, and mix when you want. it's not that hard. but maybe some of us arent that clever...if that system is even clever. dont use the bullshit camelot system though, because there are sooooo many other possibilities than the camelot system can explain. each note has dozens of different scales and harmonies. the possibilities are endless. take a fucking music theory semester. train your ears. and listen to your fucking tracks.


Posted by Benjamin DuBose on Jul-17-2006 05:19:

What computer programs are yall using to key your songs on with a midi controler keyboard. mine is a m-audio axiom 61 and i dont have a piano program on reason.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jul-17-2006 20:10:

I don't, I use keyboard or guitar.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by davemolina on Jul-17-2006 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
christ, just key them up your self, make a playlist the 12 basic keys, listen to them, and mix when you want. it's not that hard.


Wow, that's so much better than the method I use!!!

Here I was keying my tracks myself, listening to them, and mixing what I want...I was blind but now I see.

Thank you for opening my eyes.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jul-17-2006 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by ohmegah7
the , uh, "thumbs upi" is a script error. for some reason it printed the icon and the code and did not even print the other icon. I dont even know what you're talking about. if you just listen to your tunes and know how they go you would'nt need to mix 24/7. christ, just key them up your self, make a playlist the 12 basic keys, listen to them, and mix when you want. it's not that hard. but maybe some of us arent that clever...if that system is even clever. dont use the bullshit camelot system though, because there are sooooo many other possibilities than the camelot system can explain. each note has dozens of different scales and harmonies. the possibilities are endless. take a fucking music theory semester. train your ears. and listen to your fucking tracks.


Firstly, not everyone has the ability or at least the ready ability to start keying, the knowledge to do so or perhaps the time or comitment. DJing is for people who want to enjoy music primarily, then there are those who want to go further.
This is an introduction to a concept that might help people improve their skills.

With regards to camelot as a system... what's wrong with it? It only starts out with a concept, I agree there is much more that you can do with both scales and harmonies providing you know them. And besides, what is the chromatic scale if not a system designed to assist with understanding and categorising sound so that it can be easlily structured into the desired combination... and scales even more so. But then you probably knew this already.

You don't have to however polute this thread by attacking those who exchange information on something they enjoy. If you don't agree with it start a separate thread and state your opinions in a constructive way and allow discussion you will no doubt get answers and a chance to defend you beliefs.
It is after all an opinion which you are entitled to have, if I agree with it or not is besides the point.

Sure, music theory would help people no doubt, but it can be very heavy and not all of it will help with your aims anyway. I didn't learn music theory till I got into production, but I was harmonically mixing and playing in bands long before that which I guess supports your theory that you don't need to know theory to do it... but it's not for everyone. You do contradict yourself when you first say it's easy and then advise people to learn the theory.

I also noticed that you jumped on a TA for possibly not even having a gig... do you? And even if the answer is no, why is that important anyway? There are pro's here too and the company they keep might surprise you , some of us play several times a week, other's enjoy the dream that they might one day make it. It's just the way of things.

So you can either hang around and make snide remarks at people who enjoy this thread or put your money where you mouth is, post a mix and start a thread with some useful content and perhaps teach us something. Share your knowledge and don't mock others for having questions.

Peace
Nem


Posted by Benjamin DuBose on Jul-18-2006 01:45:

hey nem,

i am using a keyboard. i just got one the other day. it is a m-audio axiom 61. but it does not have speakers on it. so it has to go through the computer to get sounds. i was just wondering if anyone else is doing it this way. if so how?


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