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Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-20-2005 18:40:

wow i was looking at your weights guys.. and they are soo low

then i realised int he US they use KGs

Posted by Gauss on Mar-20-2005 18:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
wow i was looking at your weights guys.. and they are soo low

...

then i realised int he US they use KGs

Actually, Europe uses kgs and USA uses lbs.
But I write both on this forum so people could understand me easier. :P

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-20-2005 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
wow i was looking at your weights guys.. and they are soo low

then i realised int he US they use KGs

i've really lowered the weights A LOT!! and to be perfectly honest, this is some of the best workouts i've ever had...i'm definitely making progress. i'm done playing the "omg look at how much i lift" game hehehe

Posted by Michael19 on Mar-20-2005 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i've really lowered the weights A LOT!! and to be perfectly honest, this is some of the best workouts i've ever had...i'm definitely making progress. i'm done playing the "omg look at how much i lift" game hehehe

*cough* girl *cough*

kidding.

but i take it your aiming to tone your arms yea?

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-20-2005 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
*cough* girl *cough*

kidding.

but i take it your aiming to tone your arms yea?

no...i'm planning on building muscle...i'm just lifting a better way. trust me i can put up some weight...but i think that's really just a waste of time. i like this new way better.

Posted by Michael19 on Mar-20-2005 19:28:

care to share this "better way"?

i just dont get how lifting less weights then you are used to will help gain muscle?

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-20-2005 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
care to share this "better way"?

i just dont get how lifting less weights then you are used to will help gain muscle?

basically...you are trying to lift more weight then you should. you should take the weight down a notch and concentrate on proper form and feeling the muscle work. its just a different approach. i mean yeah i've gotten results lifting as much weight as i can, but i think this way is gonna provide better results.

and the day after a work out with less weight...the muscle is sore because i targeted it so well. i don't have a lot of secondary and supportive muscles too sore to workout. and i don't have any stiffness in joints and shit either which is another problem i had. i just think by lowering the weight and really focusing in on the muscle you're working, that i'm actually getting a better workout.

and i guess you're point about leaner muscle mass is something as well. i do feel like the muscles are becoming more defined...which i'm not gonna complain about hehe

Posted by Michael19 on Mar-20-2005 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
basically...you are trying to lift more weight then you should. you should take the weight down a notch and concentrate on proper form and feeling the muscle work. its just a different approach. i mean yeah i've gotten results lifting as much weight as i can, but i think this way is gonna provide better results.

and the day after a work out with less weight...the muscle is sore because i targeted it so well. i don't have a lot of secondary and supportive muscles too sore to workout. and i don't have any stiffness in joints and shit either which is another problem i had. i just think by lowering the weight and really focusing in on the muscle you're working, that i'm actually getting a better workout.

cant argue with that. I usually lift the weight i am comfortable with. I have been tempted to move up for the last set but i dont think it will be worth while. Sure as it is i am usually struggling on the last few reps!

Chest and back tomorrow, should be good!

Posted by Michael19 on Mar-20-2005 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
and i guess you're point about leaner muscle mass is something as well. i do feel like the muscles are becoming more defined...which i'm not gonna complain about hehe

bet there not as impressive as my 12" guns

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-20-2005 19:45:

well i mean...i used to literally increase weight...by five pounds everytime i could hit 12 reps twice in a row...i used to rep somewhere between 180-210 on bench...but the muscle was never really getting that great a workout. this way i'm like half of that and the next day pec is feeling worked...so i think its just about the focus on the muscles...

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-20-2005 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
bet there not as impressive as my 12" guns

well...16 doesn't look as big as i hoped it would haha

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-20-2005 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well...16 doesn't look as big as i hoped it would haha

thats still pretty big !

i try to do as much weights as i can handle usually.. (while maintaining form of course) and then lower the weight down throughout my sets

so basically my sets try to go: warm up, higher, higher, same, lower, very low.

this way i totally kill the muscle.. i wont be able to go back to near that muscle group for a couple of days.

i am seeing results this way in size, and strength

i should try you way too flooriller see how it works.. i guess everybodies body is different.

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-20-2005 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
thats still pretty big !

i try to do as much weights as i can handle usually.. (while maintaining form of course) and then lower the weight down throughout my sets

so basically my sets try to go: warm up, higher, higher, same, lower, very low.

this way i totally kill the muscle.. i wont be able to go back to near that muscle group for a couple of days.

i am seeing results this way in size, and strength

i should try you way too flooriller see how it works.. i guess everybodies body is different.

well..shit you can't argue with results hehehe. and like i said...i've seen results that way too. i'm just trying something different for a little bit.

but see here is the difference i'm noticing...

when i used to do that...with big weight you get to your last reps and you're struggling, but are you struggling because the muslce is tired or because you're body is tired? when i'm getting to those last reps with what i've been doing now...my body is fine...i'm out of breath, but the muscle is seriously just too worked to lift the weight anymore. i think when i used to just try to put up a lot of weight...my body would just be exhausted or the supporting muscles would be ehausted and that would cause me to not be able to do more. i think when you do more weight then you should, you basically force the secondary muscles to take over to lift the weight, whereas if you use a lighter weight you can focus on the actual muscle lifting it...

and well...its not like an impressive 16 hehe...i'm still a fat ass hahaa

if i was you nrg...i'd do whatever you're doing while you're still getting results. maybe if you hit a plateau...then go ahead and try out what i'm talking about...i guess the most important thing is the results hehe..

Posted by Ibizadreamer AG on Mar-20-2005 22:22:

U guys need to do my workout and you'll see rippedness! lol

Posted by diego on Mar-20-2005 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well...16 doesn't look as big as i hoped it would haha

16 is my goal and in the pics i have it looks pretty freakin' big!

you still doing warm ups?

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-20-2005 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by diego
16 is my goal and in the pics i have it looks pretty freakin' big!

you still doing warm ups?

i've been stretching and stuff...but i don't really do a warm up set anymore. i do 4 working sets and that's it...

Posted by Emil on Mar-20-2005 23:14:

What are you saying 16 is, the size of your biceps?

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-20-2005 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Emil
What are you saying 16 is, the size of your biceps?

right now yeah. since i finally started working arms again they shot up. but i still got a good deal of body fat so its not that great.

Posted by Emil on Mar-20-2005 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
right now yeah. since i finally started working arms again they shot up. but i still got a good deal of body fat so its not that great.

Word!

I agree with you about lowering the weights. If you're working out at too much weight, you cheat. But if you lower the weight, you'll do the correct range of motion, thus getting better results!s

Posted by Orbax on Mar-20-2005 23:48:

I used to be able to throw up around 300 on incline bench. those pictures from 2 years ago on page 1 were what I looked like. All my gains have been from focusing on a slow negative, a flex on the contraction, and a solid push for contraction. Proper form necessitates a lower weight. and getting the strong fibers tired and then dropping down and making all the weak ones lift means 80% of your muscle will grow instead of the already strong 20%

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-21-2005 05:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
I used to be able to throw up around 300 on incline bench. those pictures from 2 years ago on page 1 were what I looked like. All my gains have been from focusing on a slow negative, a flex on the contraction, and a solid push for contraction. Proper form necessitates a lower weight. and getting the strong fibers tired and then dropping down and making all the weak ones lift means 80% of your muscle will grow instead of the already strong 20%

time to give it a go

Posted by Miss Bliss on Mar-21-2005 15:57:

Wow, I did two weeks of hardcore working out and dieting......... and then I went on spring break....
My spring break was fat, guys... that's fat with an F OH WELL... today is a new day and I'm back. Going to the gym today to pick back up...

Posted by Masonious on Mar-21-2005 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Bliss
Wow, I did two weeks of hardcore working out and dieting......... and then I went on spring break....
My spring break was fat, guys... that's fat with an F OH WELL... today is a new day and I'm back. Going to the gym today to pick back up...

Glad to hear you're getting back into it!!

Posted by diego on Mar-21-2005 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
right now yeah. since i finally started working arms again they shot up. but i still got a good deal of body fat so its not that great.

well i got the biceps up to 15 today (slightly less on the right)

measured up today at:
weight: 200.7lbs
chest: 43.5"
biceps: 15"
waist: 33" (i think)
quads: 23"
calves: 15"

chest is what i really need to get focussed on now, it's my one lagging part, though really hit it awesome today, so should improve fast

Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-21-2005 20:54:

diego...you really need to get some pics up fool hehehe. you've gained a lot of weight and i'm just trying to compare what you say your stats are to my friend when he was that weight...its interesting...

so get the pics up damn it...

ps. care to guess about what your body fat is?

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