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Posted by Slade on Jun-23-2003 15:38:

your reasoning is full of shit

you're basically saying that if somebody's opinions contradict your own, they're not entitled to them

hello saddam

edit: in response to Christopher Bullshit

Posted by hooknife on Jun-23-2003 15:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
your reasoning is full of shit

you're basically saying that if somebody's opinions contradict your own, they're not entitled to them

hello saddam

Heard that!

Posted by sash on Jun-23-2003 15:48:

if tiesto doesn't stand for something, he'll fall for anything

Posted by Swamper on Jun-23-2003 16:14:

Whatever...

For the haters, you can think what you want of Tiesto but fact of the matter is he's done a lot more for the genre you all love than most...

Just because a guy doesn't produce/do stuff up to the level that 'satisfies' your tastes doesn't mean he sucks ass or is a sellout. Get a grip.

Posted by RWC0412 on Jun-23-2003 16:15:

^^^^^^^ Its true! Good words swamp,,, Tiesto was the reason I got into Trance music!@

Posted by Disney on Jun-23-2003 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Disney
I say ban em!!!

No but seriously, maybe it's an idea to give out warnings when people bash dj's or do other forbidden things, like posting pr0n. It's just something I see on other boards. You get two warnings and the next time you get banned. Warnings disappear after two weeks.

For those of you that didn't notice.. I was joking!

But people who take every Tiesto thread as an oppertunity to bash em... that's just lame!

The mods are doing a good job here, stricter modding makes people afraid to express their opinion.

Posted by hooknife on Jun-23-2003 18:17:

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jun-23-2003 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper

Just because a guy doesn't produce/do stuff up to the level that 'satisfies' your tastes doesn't mean he sucks ass or is a sellout. Get a grip.

Yes but fact of the matter is, he is a shit DJ. This is fact not opinion. He is technically very poor. He cant structure a set to save his life, his beatmatching is attrocious, and his cueing leaves a lot to be desired. But what is most odd, is that before 2001 he was the complete opposite of everything i hav just said. The only thing he is good at is choosing great tunes. But at the end of the day any guy with an asshole can stand up in front of people and knock out wikid tunes in any random order. And like i said this is not opinion. Give me any set he has done and i will gladly pick out the wank transitions for u, which at his level shud not be making as many mistakes as he does.

quote:
Originally posted by Disney
No but seriously, maybe it's an idea to give out warnings when people bash dj's

oh good god Thanks for that

Posted by Cyrus King on Jun-23-2003 19:17:

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Yes but fact of the matter is, he is a shit DJ. This is fact not opinion. He is technically very poor. He cant structure a set to save his life, his beatmatching is attrocious, and his cueing leaves a lot to be desired. But what is most odd, is that before 2001 he was the complete opposite of everything i hav just said. The only thing he is good at is choosing great tunes. But at the end of the day any guy with an asshole can stand up in front of people and knock out wikid tunes in any random order. And like i said this is not opinion. Give me any set he has done and i will gladly pick out the wank transitions for u, which at his level shud not be making as many mistakes as he does.

The fact of the matter is... you are making up Facts!!! If this were the case... you can say that almost every single DJ is shit if you are going to complain and whine about the little intricate transitions and missed beat matches that most if not everyone attending his parties doesnt give a shit about..... you are probably the one who stands in a cheering crowd with his arms folded analyzing every technical aspect of his set...The point of a trance DJ is to make a party... and he has done that 100% of the time.

The FACT is that Tiesto is the most popular trance DJ right now... and he always packs the house to maximum capacity. For fucks sake, he packed a whole stadium.... If he were so shitty..... why does he have all this success???

Like Swamper said, he has done alot for the genre of music that you love.

And to test you out.... please pick out the "mistakes" in Tiesto live @ Trance Energy 2000... or how about TiesTo GLobal Dj Boradcast May 25 2002.

Posted by LEACH on Jun-23-2003 19:21:

tiesto is just a nickname he got from female friends in spain who couldnt pronounce his name...so they make from thijs...tiesto...thats what he sais in many intervieuws...
greets to ya all.

Posted by DaveSZ on Jun-23-2003 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Whatever...

For the haters, you can think what you want of Tiesto but fact of the matter is he's done a lot more for the genre you all love than most...

Just because a guy doesn't produce/do stuff up to the level that 'satisfies' your tastes doesn't mean he sucks ass or is a sellout. Get a grip.

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
The fact of the matter is... you are making up Facts!!! If this were the case... you can say that almost every single DJ is shit if you are going to complain and whine about the little intricate transitions and missed beat matches that most if not everyone attending his parties doesnt give a shit about..... you are probably the one who stands in a cheering crowd with his arms folded analyzing every technical aspect of his set...The point of a trance DJ is to make a party... and he has done that 100% of the time.

The FACT is that Tiesto is the most popular trance DJ right now... and he always packs the house to maximum capacity. For fucks sake, he packed a whole stadium.... If he were so shitty..... why does he have all this success???

Like Swamper said, he has done alot for the genre of music that you love.

And to test you out.... please pick out the "mistakes" in Tiesto live @ Trance Energy 2000... or how about TiesTo GLobal Dj Boradcast May 25 2002.

Here's another: global DJ broadcast 04/20/03

Perfect mixing....when he's on, HE'S ON.

IT's as good as the recent Ton TB global DJ set.

Posted by Endlesswave on Jun-23-2003 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Yes but fact of the matter is, he is a shit DJ. This is fact not opinion. He is technically very poor. He cant structure a set to save his life, his beatmatching is attrocious, and his cueing leaves a lot to be desired. But what is most odd, is that before 2001 he was the complete opposite of everything i hav just said. The only thing he is good at is choosing great tunes. But at the end of the day any guy with an asshole can stand up in front of people and knock out wikid tunes in any random order. And like i said this is not opinion. Give me any set he has done and i will gladly pick out the wank transitions for u, which at his level shud not be making as many mistakes as he does.

I agree with your statement that he was way better in 2001 (he was incredibly better in terms of mixing back then, which adds a lot). As for the "which at his level should not be making as mnay mistakes as he does" I say every dj fucks up. It happens. I have a 35 PvD sets, in 3 of them he fucks up royally, one transition is even out of For an Angel! So why the need for bashing? Can't you just accept what he was good at doing and say "damn what happened to Tiesto..."instead of bashing him? Or selling out (this one isn't directed at you man) this one annoys me. Selling out is "betraying of ones principles" how the hell did he betray his own principles?? Just my two cents. Sick of the dj bashing. I'm not a massive fan or Hardcore but you don't see me bashing it either.

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jun-23-2003 23:25:

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Originally posted by Endlesswave
I agree with your statement that he was way better in 2001 (he was incredibly better in terms of mixing back then, which adds a lot). As for the "which at his level should not be making as mnay mistakes as he does" I say every dj fucks up. It happens. I have a 35 PvD sets, in 3 of them he fucks up royally, one transition is even out of For an Angel! So why the need for bashing? Can't you just accept what he was good at doing and say "damn what happened to Tiesto..."instead of bashing him? Or selling out (this one isn't directed at you man) this one annoys me. Selling out is "betraying of ones principles" how the hell did he betray his own principles?? Just my two cents. Sick of the dj bashing. I'm not a massive fan or Hardcore but you don't see me bashing it either.

Dont get me wrong mate, i know all DJ's fuck up. Infact PvD is my personal fav DJ, and in 35 sets there are bound to be more than just 3 slip ups. But thats ok coz he's just human. But with Tiesto i hav never heard a set from him without a big fuck up. Infact at Gatecrasher, he trainwrecked (proper nasty galloping of the beats) from Mistral into Urban Train (quite ironic given the name of the track ). I no i come across really harsh and it pisses a lot of die hard Tiesto fans, but I guess it upsets me that my second favourite DJ (well back in the good old days of 99/00) has turned into what he has. Its very frustrating. I know it is important DJ's to move with the times, but i feel Tiesto has taken to big a change and much for the worst. As a result of his massive change in style, it seems to me he just cant mix with these types of tunes as well as when he played proper decent epic trance. My 2 cents anyway. No offence intended.

Oh and as for the selling out comments, i also find them quite annoying. If a DJ has the opportunity to make a couple bucks on the side why the fuck shud he not take it? I mean who wouldnt?

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz

Here's another: global DJ broadcast 04/20/03

Perfect mixing....when he's on, HE'S ON

All global DJ Broadcasts are done via CDR mate. Therefore if Tiesto fucks up he can just do it again. Of course his global DJ Broadcast sets are gonna be better than the normal Club set becoz he can afford to take more time and preperation over the tracklists and the mixing.

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King

you are probably the one who stands in a cheering crowd with his arms folded analyzing every technical aspect of his set...The point of a trance DJ is to make a party... and he has done that 100% of the time.

I found this bullshit. When i go to see a DJ set i go for the tunes yes, but just as importantly to me is the mixing and the structure of the set. I am a DJ myself ffs, so i do notice such things, and so do most people.

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
The FACT is that Tiesto is the most popular trance DJ right now... and he always packs the house to maximum capacity. For fucks sake, he packed a whole stadium.... If he were so shitty..... why does he have all this success???

That is definitely a matter of opinion. I would not say he is the most popular trance DJ at all rite now. Personally i would say its Paul van Dyk but thats for another debate

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Like Swamper said, he has done alot for the genre of music that you love.

Im not gonna argue this coz its absoloutley true. But what does this hav to do with how bad he has gotten today? He has done wonderful things for the genre we all love, but he has done it thru the earlier years and not now.

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
And to test you out.... please pick out the "mistakes" in Tiesto live @ Trance Energy 2000... or how about TiesTo GLobal Dj Boradcast May 25 2002.

Read my thread again mate. I said Tiesto's mixing was good up until 2001. His Trance Energy 2000 set is undoubtedly one of the greatest sets of all time alongside his Mysteryland 99 set and his Hyperstate 2000 set. Was there even a GDJB on 25th May? I thought it was the 20th. Either way that set was again done by CDR.

Dont flame me for my opinions. I genuinely dont mean to offend anyone. If u think ive said something wrong just tell me. Tell me why u think im wrong etc.

Peace

- Mike

Posted by DaveSZ on Jun-24-2003 00:58:

Well, maybe he's going deaf???/ If he doesn't use earplugs he's asking for it...(or any other DJ for that matter that works in a club setting very often). I think you'd have to be very hard of hearing before it would affect your mixing though eh? I've heard and seen him fuck up before too, so it's not like I'm a totally blind fan or something...I saw him back in 2001, and again in 2003. He still knows how to move a crowd, but nothing will ever be as good as hearing classic anthem after anthem like in 2001...

So when it's a studio recording, I guess they do several takes and use the best one?? Does armin do live turntable mixes or does he use pro tools? His cds are always beautifully mixed. I know global dj is pre-recorded (except for markus).

BTW he's flowerpot....

Posted by Lakerfan36 on Jun-24-2003 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DJDigDug
i dont think it is spanish cuz the accent on the E is not in spanish alphabet, so i am curious as well what exactly it translates to if anything

same here

Posted by PVDrules on Jun-24-2003 04:09:

I am sick of people complaining about dj's mixing skills.Who gives a flying f!!@#$. I go to see a dj hoping he will play my favourite tracks and thats it. I honestly could care less about their mixing. Tiesto's mixing isn't as bad as you "people" say it is. I can not believe how critical you "people" are, WHO frigg'n CARES!!. I hear flight 643 and I go crazy!!! I could care less if it was a bad transition. I would rather see tiesto then some other trance dj who can mix better, because tiesto plays the tracks I like. I just saw tiesto on june 13th and he blew me away. The guy really knows how to get a crowd moving.. hes unbelievable . If you havent seen Tiesto recently you should.Please Dont judge a dj by listening to sets on mp3s. My favourite djs are Tiesto, PVD, AVB and Ferry, am I the only one who likes all 4 of these guys? These guys are my heros .

Posted by PVDrules on Jun-24-2003 04:15:

and back to the topic.. Tiesto means Flowerpot in spanish. I read an interview with tiesto (cant remember where) and Tiij said that Tiesto=flowerpot in spanish.He also told a story about a couple of girls who brang him a flowerpot when he was spinning in spain or some spanish speaking country and how it made him smile .

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jun-24-2003 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by PVDrules
I am sick of people complaining about dj's mixing skills.Who gives a flying f!!@#$. I go to see a dj hoping he will play my favourite tracks and thats it. I honestly could care less about their mixing. Tiesto's mixing isn't as bad as you "people" say it is. I can not believe how critical you "people" are, WHO frigg'n CARES!!. I hear flight 643 and I go crazy!!! I could care less if it was a bad transition. I would rather see tiesto then some other trance dj who can mix better, because tiesto plays the tracks I like. I just saw tiesto on june 13th and he blew me away. The guy really knows how to get a crowd moving.. hes unbelievable . If you havent seen Tiesto recently you should.Please Dont judge a dj by listening to sets on mp3s. My favourite djs are Tiesto, PVD, AVB and Ferry, am I the only one who likes all 4 of these guys? These guys are my heros .

I have seen all of those 4 DJ's in the past month and a half plus many many more (probs more than u altho tahts not important), so pls dont assume that i am just some mp3 gimp sitting at home with no basis for my arguements And who "friggin" cares? well obviously a lot of "People" do, myself included.

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