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Posted by AndskiSpeed on Jul-05-2003 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Wretched
Look, you fool. I've proven you wrong on every front. Mike did try to sue Scooter. I have purchased Push's work. Scooter has stolen quite a few melodies without permission.

It's funny how you said Mike would be happy that Scooter's rip-off would earn him money, but then turned around and said that trance artists aren't in the business for financial reward. Please, make up your mind, you only look stupid when you step on your own feet.

And also, I had a great day celebrating our independence from you lymies yesterday.


Buying a comp with a track by M.I.K.E. on it isn't really the same as you buying a vinyl by him is it?

And please bugger off with your irrelevant comments about how you think America is better than the U.K. when you wouldn't exist if it wasnt for the English coming to your beautiful homeland.


Posted by Wretched on Jul-05-2003 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by dj adagnitio
As far as saying that Britain is jealous of America, Im not sure what they wuld be jealous of. Your faltering economy? Your 6 MILLION people in jail? Your huge divide between the rich and poor? Your racism? Your sexism? Your homophobia? Your falling dollar? Your poor education system? Your lack of a social healthcare system? Your huge amounts of gun crime? Or maybe your leaders that are using you all to achieve their own personal ends? I don't know about anyone else here but I see little reason Britain would be jealous of the U.S.


Speaking of faltering economy, Canada's really tearing up the global markets right now, arent they? HAHAHA

And our economy isn't faltering, it's settling down. We had a number of years in the early 90's of staggering growth - it's something no market can sustain so eventually it had to slow down. I don't really care about how many people are in jail. People that commit crimes deserve to be there, so they are. Rich and poor divide? It exists everywhere, bud. Look it up. Falling dollar? You mean, for ONCE, the US dollar is actually falling against the pounds? (Not to mention the Canadian dollar, which has a history of constantly being in the hole). Lack of a healthcare system? Hahaha, that's the one thing you idiot Canadians try to hold over us. And YES the British are very jealous of the US because this could've been an extension of their country. However, we, the underdog, with the aid of the French (which is why the British hate the French also) overcame the oppressive rule. Now Great Britain exists to kiss America's ass.

Sexism? Exists everywhere.
Homophobia? Exists everywhere.
Poor education system? Ha - hardly.

It's nice to see you've lapped up all the uneducated global propaganda about the US.

What you don't understand is that America would give millions of lives to defend either one of your countries (Britain or Canada). I think you should be a LITTLE more appreciative of the amount of shit we've done for you. Take World War II for instance. Had it not been for US intervention, Britain would've fallen to the Nazis. Same would've happened to Canada in time.


Posted by Hitman on Jul-05-2003 17:43:

please close this thread...


Posted by AndskiSpeed on Jul-05-2003 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Wretched
And YES the British are very jealous of the US because this could've been an extension of their country. However, we, the underdog, with the aid of the French (which is why the British hate the French also) overcame the oppressive rule. Now Great Britain exists to kiss America's ass.


That's also a piece of shite. Please prove how GB exists to kiss America's ass. And don't say a word about Tony Blair, because GB does not = Tony Blair


Posted by Chris Hampshire on Jul-05-2003 18:47:

Scooter have failed at creating deep tracks that touch your soul lately. Come On, The Logical Song (RAMP), what a disgrace to the original brilliant shouldn't have ever been touched or sampled by anybody classic rock tune, by Supertramp, but I suppose everyone has their own personal oppinion, sure if you aren't into the underground trance sound and enjoy cheesy dance music, keep on loving Scooter, they're great for that kind of stuff!


Posted by AndskiSpeed on Jul-05-2003 18:53:

yea I used to love The Logical Song before I found better things (trance)


Posted by noikeee on Jul-05-2003 19:13:

heavy flaming alert


Posted by mto on Jul-05-2003 19:16:

STFU!


Posted by oDrori on Jul-05-2003 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Hampshire
sure if you aren't into the underground trance sound and enjoy cheesy dance music, keep on loving Scooter, they're great for that kind of stuff!

You're too cool for me.


Posted by Ekstasis on Jul-05-2003 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
People making fun of Scooter have no idea about the history of dance music. The older generation knows how important Scooters influence on the development of (German) techno was.



Scooter deffinetly had a big influence on dance music. Just look at the stuff they released in the mid/late 80s under the name Celebrate the Nun. Sounds a lot like Depeche Mode, and collectors literaly fight over the albums.

Just because they decided to have fun with music and make some money doesnt mean they suck.


Posted by Dj.Looonie on Jul-05-2003 21:28:

i didnt want to read all the posts but on the 1st page all i saw was ppl flaming Scooter....how can u flame scooter....trance wouldnt be the same without them.....they have a vre important role in trance.....they r some of the best they have been here for mad long ...so respect ur elders u bastards


Posted by Wretched on Jul-06-2003 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
Yes I was aware that M.I.K.E had brought legal action. My point is that Wretched (or whatever his name is), came in to this thread and started posting stuff that he read off this very board, that everyone knew already several months back, acting as if he was an insider or something .


WHAT?! I didnt nothing of the sort (in regards to *laugh* acting like an insider)! I simply posted the information to back my argument. God you're really reaching now.


Posted by Wretched on Jul-06-2003 02:47:

quote:
Originally posted by AndskiSpeed
Buying a comp with a track by M.I.K.E. on it isn't really the same as you buying a vinyl by him is it?

And please bugger off with your irrelevant comments about how you think America is better than the U.K. when you wouldn't exist if it wasnt for the English coming to your beautiful homeland.


Why would I buy a vinyl when I dont have any decks to play it on? The point is that I do support Push in the only was I possibly can, by purchasing compilations featuring Mike's work.

Yes, the people that founded America were British. All was fine until your government started treating us like absolute shit. I think it's hilarious that we came back and put you in your place.


Posted by tc-fan on Jul-06-2003 03:20:

all i can say is scooter fucking blows......the only thing good i see scooter has done is give jobs to Alvin and the chipmunks...after their show stopped..in the 80's....


Posted by dj adagnitio on Jul-06-2003 03:56:

I guess it's not your fault that you feel that way about America. Clearly you have been conditioned from birth to think that way. Canada's economy generally does fairly well and until the recent Sars and mad cow scares has recently been doing extremelly well. Regarldess of either of those things our dollar has been going up and yours down. It is true that there is a large divide between the rich and the poor almost every where in the world but the U.S. is especially bad. If you go look at some numbers you will see the divide in the U.S. between rich and poor is signifigantly higher then almost everywhere in the Western world, including Canada. The Gini index in the States is very high, almost .5 i believe, compared to around .42 in Canada.

And you don't care about how many people are in jail? You feel that anyone that commits a crime deserves it right? What about the 18 year old who was arrested selling an ounce of pot and got 20 years in jail. He had no record. Is that justice? Or the people that get longer sentences because their poor? This is evidenced by certain laws, such as one that gives harsher sentences to crimes around housing projects. Or how about that their are many times as many Blacks on death row as Whites? is that justice? And what about when your high incarsiration rate starts causing other problems in your country? Like in Oregan where the state had so little money, largelly because of the cost of running a massive prison system, that they had to end the school year three weeks early. Or in Texas where there is now a bill on the table to cut the school week to four days because they can't afford to keep both their prison system and school system the way they are going now.

And I would like to remind you that one of the main reasons America managed to grow to the size it is was slavery. Your exploitation of others is your only strength. And what threats are you protecting us from? I mean there's Iraq with all those weapons of mass distruction. no wait they never found any. And there's Afghanistan with all their terrorists, that by the way only attacked you guys. They were a huge threat to us. And back in the sixties there were all those scary Vietnamese people. They would of turned as all into communists. And then there were the Cuban's. Unfortunatelly your invasion of them didn't work out so well. Better watch out, the red hand of communism is still lurking over us all. It is true that sexism and homophobia exist everywhere, but the U.S. is one of the only places where up until about a week ago Gay (anal) sex was illegal. And the levels of discrimination in the states is far above most places. The amount of horrible crimes in the states related to sexual orientation and race are horrific. And what about all the gun crimes? We have as many guns per capita as you do, but not even a tenth of the gun crime. Whats your explanation for that? Your education system is underfunded and second rate. Your universities cost so much that very few people can attend.

And your saying I've lapped up the uneducated propaganda about the U.S.? So I guess the rest of the Western world, minus part of Britain are all completelly ignorant and creating vile lies about you right? Because were all out to get you.



quote:
Originally posted by dj adagnitio
As far as saying that Britain is jealous of America, Im not sure what they wuld be jealous of. Your faltering economy? Your 6 MILLION people in jail? Your huge divide between the rich and poor? Your racism? Your sexism? Your homophobia? Your falling dollar? Your poor education system? Your lack of a social healthcare system? Your huge amounts of gun crime? Or maybe your leaders that are using you all to achieve their own personal ends? I don't know about anyone else here but I see little reason Britain would be jealous of the U.S.

Speaking of faltering economy, Canada's really tearing up the global markets right now, arent they? HAHAHA

And our economy isn't faltering, it's settling down. We had a number of years in the early 90's of staggering growth - it's something no market can sustain so eventually it had to slow down. I don't really care about how many people are in jail. People that commit crimes deserve to be there, so they are. Rich and poor divide? It exists everywhere, bud. Look it up. Falling dollar? You mean, for ONCE, the US dollar is actually falling against the pounds? (Not to mention the Canadian dollar, which has a history of constantly being in the hole). Lack of a healthcare system? Hahaha, that's the one thing you idiot Canadians try to hold over us. And YES the British are very jealous of the US because this could've been an extension of their country. However, we, the underdog, with the aid of the French (which is why the British hate the French also) overcame the oppressive rule. Now Great Britain exists to kiss America's ass.

Sexism? Exists everywhere.
Homophobia? Exists everywhere.
Poor education system? Ha - hardly.

It's nice to see you've lapped up all the uneducated global propaganda about the US.

What you don't understand is that America would give millions of lives to defend either one of your countries (Britain or Canada). I think you should be a LITTLE more appreciative of the amount of shit we've done for you. Take World War II for instance. Had it not been for US intervention, Britain would've fallen to the Nazis. Same would've happened to Canada in time.


Posted by DJ_FRAZ on Jul-06-2003 09:49:

easy lad


Posted by joeh on Jul-06-2003 11:50:

Wretched, you have turned this in to a argument about politics, was there any reason to?

Please reply to the questions put to you rather than going off on some misguided, ignorant political outburst

Asked by me yesterday:

System F is an alias of Ferry Corsten - System F is not a band that Ferry is in. Push is an alias of M.I.K.E - Push is not a band that M.I.K.E is in.

It�s like saying Reginald Dwight from Elton John or Gordon Sumner from Sting. These are alias of these artists, and as such you wouldn�t say it, as Reginald Dwight is Elton John . Likewise Push is an alias - in fact M.I.K.E is also an alias (real name Dirk Dierickx).

So saying M.I.K.E from Push is incredibly stupid. This is blatantly obvious to everyone, no doubt even you. If you had only just admitted you made a simple mistake in your first post rather than get aggressive and abusive to anyone and everyone who dared to point out how incorrect it sounded, then you wouldn't have been made to look so stupid.


Posted by diffusion on Jul-06-2003 12:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Hitman
please close this thread...


No!

Why can't you let this thread resolve and revolve around it's own momentum?


Posted by fcuk � on Jul-06-2003 13:20:

Only track i sorta like from scooter would be that track 'Im Raving' only the Taucher Remix other than that i don't know why people call scooter the hardcore shit.


Posted by nekholm on Jul-06-2003 14:01:

Would you please continue your fucking US/UK bashing somewhere else and stick to the subject please?


Posted by Viber on Jul-06-2003 14:16:

Harder faster scooter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by nekholm on Jul-06-2003 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
Harder faster scooter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Actually it's Faster Harder Scooter


Posted by Paula on Jul-07-2003 01:34:

sorry but i have to say 'How Much is the Fish', with I Shot the DJ close 2nd...


Posted by blazed it on Jul-07-2003 05:30:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
You should say that:
'M.I.K.E did so and so' or 'Push did so and so'
rather than 'mike from push did so and so'


Well, it would actually seem that I do, and you do not (see below).



Saying Scooter steals melodies would suggest that Scooter is one person - where infact Scooter are three people, so you should say that Scooter steal melodies.

It is very doubtful that Scooter just stole something from M.I.K.E.
A large record company would not allow a track to recieve a commercial release if it was a blatent rip off, unless they had paid royalties.

I would suggest that M.I.K.E was paid royalties - and no doubt made a fuck load as Weekend probably sold millions. Compare this to him releasing tracks on vinyl with only a few thousand pressings at a time - the whole weekend using the Strange World melody was probably very good for him.

Considering that you have probably never bought a vinyl/cd by M.I.K.E, I don't think that you have any right to accuse someone else of ripping him off.


your a cock... who gives a shit about grammatical errors on the fuckin net.


Posted by blazed it on Jul-07-2003 05:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Wretched
Speaking of faltering economy, Canada's really tearing up the global markets right now, arent they? HAHAHA

And our economy isn't faltering, it's settling down. We had a number of years in the early 90's of staggering growth - it's something no market can sustain so eventually it had to slow down. I don't really care about how many people are in jail. People that commit crimes deserve to be there, so they are. Rich and poor divide? It exists everywhere, bud. Look it up. Falling dollar? You mean, for ONCE, the US dollar is actually falling against the pounds? (Not to mention the Canadian dollar, which has a history of constantly being in the hole). Lack of a healthcare system? Hahaha, that's the one thing you idiot Canadians try to hold over us. And YES the British are very jealous of the US because this could've been an extension of their country. However, we, the underdog, with the aid of the French (which is why the British hate the French also) overcame the oppressive rule. Now Great Britain exists to kiss America's ass.

Sexism? Exists everywhere.
Homophobia? Exists everywhere.
Poor education system? Ha - hardly.

It's nice to see you've lapped up all the uneducated global propaganda about the US.

What you don't understand is that America would give millions of lives to defend either one of your countries (Britain or Canada). I think you should be a LITTLE more appreciative of the amount of shit we've done for you. Take World War II for instance. Had it not been for US intervention, Britain would've fallen to the Nazis. Same would've happened to Canada in time.



alright your a numbnut too.... wtf does scooter have to do with us superioroity or what not? theres enough of these threads about bashing countries already no need to add more of them.... damn hijackers.


Stuttgart
no fate
ramp the logical song (cheesy yes! but i like it)
aii shot the dj (video is like weekend @ bernies)


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