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It's Shearer's birthday tommorow, he's 33 so it might be a good bet on him to get a hat-trick

What lineup would you all like to see tommorow for the match?

Here's mine:

....................Given

Hughes Woodgate Bramble Bernard

Solano.....Jenas.....Speed.....Robert

...............Shearer Bellamy


I think we should play an offensive team and hope to grab those important away goals. I know it looks a bit weak defensively on our right but with Bowyer suspended and Viana and Ambrose both injured that's what it's got to be.

As for the actual team, I think it'll be the same except Griffin will be in place of Hughes and Dyer in place of Jenas.

By the way, Partizan won the first game of their season the other day 6-1, it was against some crappy side that's only just been promoted though. We really should go to town on this lot, but I'd be happy with any win.

thanx for the information guys! hopefully they do choose our game over chelsea's qualifier on BBC

The line-up is a tough one. We did really well last year with the Dyer/Speed combo in central midfield.

But my line-up would be:

.............Given

Hughes Woodgate O'Brien Bernard

Solano... Dyer...Speed...Robert

........Shearer..Bellamy


I still strongly feel that Bramble cannot cope with the pace of the game. Whether it be Domestically or in Euorpean. I think i speak for alot of Toon supporters when i say that, no one has confidence in him after last season.

O'Brien on the other hand has proven that he is well aware of standards he needs to meet to be Woodgate's long-term partner in defence.

O'Brien's distribution is often poor so I'd rather Bramble be given a chance for this one, or possibly Caldwell. Bramble's problem is that he sometimes loses concentration and makes catastrophic blunders, but he deserves to be given a chance. I think SBR rotates the defence too much, I'd rather he allowed O'Brien, Caldwell or Bramble a string of games alongside Woodgate so they can learn their trade and get experience.

We should be aiming to have this lot on the back foot as much as possible, I don't mind whether Dyer or Jenas play alongside Speed. The Dyer/Speed formation is tried and tested but against all except the best of teams Jenas is capable and offers more bite than Dyer. Unlike Dyer, Jenas can put it in the back of the net and if we're going to give him a chance, I think this match should be it.

I'd love to see Shearer score though, it'd be his first ever goal scored on his birthday in a competitive match.

Caldwell would be my main pick as well. But it seems a bit unrealistic that Bobby would put him in the starting line-up in such an important game. He has other players that are more valued in defence.

Sure O'Brien's distribution is often poor on occasions, however he has the knack of making some great last ditch tackles and is a very good man-marker. But that really depends if SBR prefers a man-marking system, which I am not really aware of.


I also heard that Newcastle United were planning on developing a partnership with a feeder club, being Newcastle United in Australia. Any news of that in Europe? or is it just plain rubbish?

Newcastle won 1-0

Good. As long as those cheating mother******s doesn�t get through to the group stage

Yep I'm very happy with the away win !

NOL SOL's goal secures the points, but all credit must go to Shay Given for his string of fantastic saves.

and IMO how good are newcastle's new European kit! The all-silver looks absolutely classy! I want one !

Freddy Shepherd has been to Australia and Hong Kong to do business with other clubs, I haven't been following it that closely.

Yesterday's game was a good result but not a great performance. We were very lucky to win that, Given saved a point-blank shot in the dying seconds and the follow-up header was put just wide of an open goal!

They are a better team than I thought, although the crowd and the ref gave them some assistance. In the first half Partizan were very dirty - every time Newcastle went on the attack the last defender would hack us down, and the referee took a while to start dishing out yellow cards for blatant fouls. He later dished out bizarre yellow cards that baffled both sides.

Given was amazing and Woodgate as usual was legendary. Those two players will grow into two of the world's best, I'm sure of that. I used to think Woodgate was very good but having followed him with Newcastle I know he's absolutely amazing, and he's only 23! Imagine what he's going to be like in a few years time. Man utd paid 30 mill for Ferdinand while we got Woodgate for 9 mill. We got an absolute steal, this lad is world class.

I'm not sure Partizan'll be such an easy game at St James' but with our away goal the pressure is really on Partizan now. We might have to grind out another 1-0 at St James', but then again if we can close them down better in midfield we can murder this lot.

Howay the Lads!!!!

I expect another fortress like season at home for Newcastle United, which will start when Leeds make the trip to the North East.

I agree with you evil, Partizan look like a better team than most would have given them credit for. They look solid in all positions and their game play consists of more fluency than other "B Grade" European teams. Matthaus has done a brilliant job over there and we saw that last night. But unfortuanetely only one of us can get through to the group stages and it aint gonna be them.

A lot of people think we will hammer them at St James', but based on yesterdays performance I think we can expect another tough match. If Partizan get an early goal who knows what could happen? We have the advantage but this tie is still very much open. I am quietly confident about the next leg, afterall things could be a lot worse.

By the way, about 100 Newcastle fans were locked in their hotel by armed police in Belgrade until kickoff, and weren't allowed to walk the streets of Belgrade throughout their stay. The British Ambassador mediated with the Serb authorities and was allowed to take them into his house for beer. Partizan really need to get their act together, I don't think locking away fans in their hotel before and after the match is going to improve their image! Newcastle fans who had made their own travel arrangements walked the streets of Belgrade freely and enjoyed a pissup and a banter with the local fans while their friends remained incarcerated by armed guards. Farical.

Here's the full story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/3148281.stm

Yeh i heard about that. We should lock up 100 of their fans and return the favour.

I'm not saying that our fortress will be a place where will beat teams 3-0,4-0 everytime. Look at last season for example, all of our home games were won by margins of 1-0, 2-1. Close results, however the football that the Magpies played was good solid, excellent football. We are strong team and to make St James' a fortress where we rarely unbeaten.

I wanna see another Shearer volley, like the one he scored against Everton again !!

omg how could we draw with leeds 2-2? coz our defence is still wank.

Bowyer didn't get a great reception did he This was always going to be heated though, with the only REAL United's going head to head.

Viduka equalised 4 minutes after we took the lead and then an attrocious mistake from Bernard gifted them with another goal. We piled on the pressure, had a goal disallowed for being offisde (which it wasn't), had a shot cleared off the line, and should still have won it. Leeds only two shots on goal were their goals, and they were both giveaways which came from Newcastle mistakes. A shame really, but there's 37 games left so no reason to panic. A draw away from home - things could be worse.



Leeds were dirty as usual, so they have no right to call us thugs X1 or whatever when they're one of the dirtiest sides around.

Howay the Lads

Yeh 2-2 I was a bit dissapointed. I thought we controlled the game completely and what really pisses me off is that Leeds go forward only twice and they score. Where as Newcastle (including last season) have awesome chances, but something always happens to avoid the goal.

Luck has never been on our side. But that just goes to show that a team can put in all the effort and walk away undeserved loosers

SHEARER AGAIN TO THE RESCUE!

What team do yous reckon we should play against Man U?

I'd play this:

-----------------Given

Griffin -- O'Brien -- Woodgate -- Bernard

Dyer ---- Bowyer --- Speed ---- Robert

----------Shearer ----- Bellamy


Much as I'd like to see Bramble given a decent run against weaker sides this year, O'Brien is the safest option for this match. He's a lot calmer under pressure and I think that could prove crucial in this match. If it comes to containing the likes of Ronaldo or Giggs down our right, who better than Griffin to kick some lumps out of them? Bolton gave them too much space to flaunt their skills, but much as I criticise Griffin he won't take any nonsense. Dyer can't really cross but he has bags of pace and runs all day so placing him on the wing might force Ronaldo to defend a lot more than he'd like. I get the feeling Ronaldo will be poor at tracking back. Bowyer and Speed should provide much more grit in midfield than we had during the 6-2 thrashing (we had Dyer/Jenas in centre mid that time, both young and lightweight). Hopefully Robert's long-range efforts and the raucous St James' will keep Howard on his toes.

If things aren't going well at half time I'd like to see Ameobi given a full 45 in place of Bellers. Ameobi has been withdrawn from the England U21 squad because of a minor injury, but I hope he's available for Saturday. Also, depending on how the midfield battle goes, Solano and Jenas are both options in place of Dyer or Bowyer.

Obviously I'm concerned about this fixture, we still have massive problems in defence. But this time we have the addition of Bowyer and Speed, both of whom weren't available for the second match, and Woodgate who wasn't available for the first match last season. Hopefully we'll take none of their nonsense and really go at them from the flanks. Man U are a lot weaker defending than they are going forward, Newcastle are the same. That's why our two games produced 16 goals last year and why it's always a thriller.

That said, if somebody offered me a draw now I'd take it. I think the start of our season will be damage limitation, we've had some difficult draws with Partizan, Leeds, Man U etc. If we can get through this difficult phase fairly unscathed we have a run of easier games in October where we can hopefully pick up the points and gain some confidence.

The referee for the Man Utd game on Saturday is...

URIAH RENNIE!

SHIT!! We might as well not play Shearer at all, I bet this fucking prick is itching to send him off already



Remember when he sent Shearer off against Villa and even the Villa players were bemused?! The guy has publicly admitted he doesn't like Alan Shearer. This is a disgrace, I think Newcastle should challenge the FA about it because this is a crucial match and we can't have someone with an obvious and unashamed bias in charge. If Shearer doesn't get sent off he'll get stretchered off, because the Man U players will know they can have a free dig at him. Plus Roy Keane has a big rivalry with Shearer and he knows he'll have Rennie on his side. I can see the tackles flying in...

It gets even worse, that smoggy bastard Jeff Winter is fourth official!

Apparently we've lost all eight of our games that Uriah Rennie has been in charge of.

Yeh the decision to field Uriah Rennie as the ref is bloody outrage. IMO, Rennies is a man who publically criticised Shearer and shared his dislike to the media about the Newcastle team. Newcastle officials have even approached the FA about changing the decision, but they are not having any bar of it.

As for the team, I think Bowyer did play pretty poorly, apart from the part he played in NUFC�s first goal. . But we can't forget it was 2nd game for NUFC and take into consideration that he prefers to play in the center.

I'm still a bit uncertain on having Dyer and Bowyer both in the same side. They play identical to each other and I don't think either can play on the right side of midfield.

Now we all know that Nobby's future is looking very bleek, after he controversially put country before club and has even admitted he thinks he will be sold in the near future. The Peruvian will be missing alot of games this season and I think Sir Bobby needs to dip into the transfer market and purchase a solid out-right winger as cover.

I thought Robert played magnificently against Leeds. He made runs, had several long-range efforts and he even back tracked to help out the defence.

I'd also like to see Ameobi introduced if things are going horribly wrong. He came on against Leeds and I think both him and Jenas revitalised the confidence of the side. I think Bobby will have to seriously consider replacing Bellamy in attack with Ameobi, if he doesn't starting scoring more regurlarly.

I'm getting frustrated with Bellamy as well, I think his days are numbered if he doesn't get his act together.

I would rather put Nobby on right wing but realistically it's not going to happen. He and Bobby seem to be in a bit of a huff at the moment which is a bit childish if you ask me. I would like to see this midfield:

Robert - Speed - Bowyer - Solano

Grit in midfield, flair on the wings. Sadly Solano's days could be numbered and it'd be a great shame to see him go. I have faith in Bowyer in centre mid, but he needs a decent run there.

We need more goals coming from midfield and players like Speed and Dyer are poor at long-range efforts. After our recent performances you have to question their partnership there with Bowyer, Jenas and Viana all vying for places. Bowyer scored some long-range screamers at Leeds so we know he is capable, Robert loves to have a dig and Viana and Jenas both know where the back of the net is. Speed and Bowyer would provide more protection for our defence in my opinion and provide a better goal threat. As I see it, one of the fundamental problems with Newcastle's attack strategy at the moment is that we constantly wait for the perfect shot. We waste chance after chance, minute after minute carving up the perfect tap-in with only a couple of players willing to test the opposition keeper from 20 or 30 yards out. In the 0-0 Chelsea game we didn't have a single shot on target, even though we kept the ball in their half for long periods. At least Bowyer will have a dig every now and then and if it goes wide that's only a goal-kick. Being on the wing he looks a bit lost and isn't getting the right pportunities. The problem with Dyer is he'll run all the way up the pitch and then make a sloppy pass and we're caught on the break.

As Nobby probably won't even be considered for Saturday I think Dyer is our only option on the right wing. He can't curve nice balls in from Shearer which Nobby can, but hopefully his pace and determination might unsettle them a little.

yay, uriah rennnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee

Looks like we're gonna get shafted by the TV stations again. Setanta are covering the Rangers and Celtic games and the BBC will probably choose Chelsea (again).

Hopefully someone will televise our game, but it doesn't look good so far. I might buy tickets but I need all the money I can get now for Uni

We had quite a few international players featuring yesterday. DYER had a goal called offside against Croatia, although it was onside. SOLANO scored for Peru against Mexico, VIANA played a full 90 minutes for Portugal (Cristiano Ronaldo joined him in the second half), DABIZAS played the last ten minutes for Greece, JENAS played 90 minutes for the U21's, O'BRIEN played 45 minutes for Ireland and BELLAMY and SPEED played a full 90 minutes for Wales in Belgrade.

WOODGATE and AMEOBI were withdrawn from the England squad because of injury fears. Woodgate has confirmed he will be available for Saturday, it's still not certain where Ameobi stands. By the time we face Man U on Saturday Bellamy and Speed will have played 4 games in 10 days, 2 of them in Belgrade, and Solano has to come back from the US where he played a full game yesterday. You have to worry about our squad's fitness going into Saturday's match, and Partizan next Wednesday.

Very bad news, Woodgate and Bellamy will both miss the Man U match because of injury, meanwhile Ameobi, Solano and Speed will all be fighting back to fitness

Whatever happens tommorow, I just can't see us not conceding. Woodgate may have played in the 6-2 match but we had Speed out then, and Robert came off after 15 minutes, leaving us with a very lightweight midfield of Viana and Solano on the wings and Dyer and Jenas in the middle. They ran all over us in midfield and Scholes picked up plenty of through balls. We should be aiming to do the opposite this time, rather than Dyer and Jenas in midfield we should put Speed and Bowyer, both determined players who never shy out of tackles and would give Keane something to think about. Sadly there is talk of leaving Bernard out and putting Speed at left-back. I don't doubt Speed's ability at left-back, but we need him in midfield. Solano if fit should be on the right, if not then Dyer on the right and Ameobi up front, and if Ameobi isn't fit then Dyer playing up front (!) maybe dropping just behind Shearer (the way Man U use Scholes - not ideal but what other option would we have?! Lua Lua maybe?).

Still, if I had a choice of losing to Man U and beating Partizan or vice versa I'd choose the victory over Partizan every time. I just hope our boys are fit for next Wednesday! As for tommorow, it doesn't bare thinking about our defence without Woodgate (and possibly Bernard)...

I'm actually looking forward to the Partizan game, since i wanna see how Sir Bobby gets his men to respond after the Man Utd loss.

Im also actually eager to see whether our formation will change or not. After the Man utd game supporters believe that our team should employ a diamond formation. Maybe buy someone like Gio Van Bronckhorts as left wing back. He is cheap and reeks with class.

-----------------Given

------Woodgate--Dabizas--Caldwell

Hughues--------------------------Bernard

----------------Speed-----------------

-----------Bowyer---Viana-----------
Robert
---------------Shearer-----------

*Robert to roam behind Shearer, just like Kewell did at Leeds behind Viduka

But we definitely need new additions to the squad. I think Viana could also be as exciting as Ronaldo, we just need to give him more of a starting role, instead of always bringing him off the bench with 10mins to go! <- Which is just pointless

we got beat, well another wank performance from the defence imo. Especially bramble, hes a tad bit poo, hes proppa slow.

Any 1 see the highlights of the blackburn game where friedel grabbed the ball boy?

From the highlights on the Premiership it looked like Stephen Carr had a great game for Spurs, he put in some great crosses, helped out with the attacks and defended well. We should have put in a bid.

Czechstar, that formation doesn't look bad although I'm not sure it would suit our style of play. Firstly, Robert (Dyer might be better in that free role?) would have to get far enough forward to unsettle defenders otherwise Shearer will be man-marked out of the game. Secondly, we are not particularly strong going through the centre and I think our opponents are beginning to notice that. We need Solano back, Bowyer just isn't a winger and won't provide the crosses. Solano's goal against Partizan was a cross into the box, Shearer's goal against Man U was a cross into the box, and Ameobi's goal against Birmingham was a cross into the box. We can really unsettle sides doing this but now that Solano is missing on the right Shearer just isn't getting the service.

Newcastle basically aren't very good at attacking through the centre. We need more creativity, Dyer runs all day but with no end product and on the edge of the box he often has no ideas. Viana is an amazing passer, he would offer us more creativity attacking through the centre of midfield and he showed against Birmingham in Malaysia he is capable of accurate long-range shots, wheras Dyer can't shoot to save his life. Meanwhile Solano and Robert can provide the crosses, with Speed as our holding midfielder.

So in short I like your team selection, I just think the diamond formation might not utilise the flanks enough, might make us weaker in attack and could still leave Speed all on his own when it comes to defending. Basically Bobby needs to buy someone, it's painfully obvious now.

defence is still needed to be strenghted but robson says he aint buying til january.

If u ask me were buggered. Janaury, thats like a third of the season, well more than a third and with the defence weve got at the minute were gonna lose loads more games. Who does every 1 reckon we shud look @ buying.

Also i saw that Lua Lua is lookn like he mite leave. Not suprised as he doesnt get his game. I wud have played him before ameobi the other day.

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