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I was all ready to start a site and get this shit going
fucks sake www.boycottriaa.com is already going.
Thing looks like a big moneymaking thing for THEM though.
Fucking bullshit- I guess its a start.
We need to hammer them and tell them to step up their efforts.
We need like a complete boycott for a whole month or two
preferably December. The biggest CD sales month of the year.
I was thinking- They claim they're losing money for loss sales
Once they get all this money for their lawsuits- Do they just keep it or are they dispursing the appropriate amount the the artists as well? If I was an artist under their cartel I would be saying Thanks for recovering some of my losses- now give me my money.
That is like PURE profit for them when someone pays.
Anyone know anything about this?
Maybe we should be contacting everyone on the RIAA distribution list and ask them- Are you getting YOUR share of these "recovered" revenues?
We need to change the topic of this thread and sticky it
FUCK THE RIAA sounds good
Just a ?... aren't the big 5 labels somehow always involved in our kind of music? Just read the small prints of some of the cds.
People who still buy cds are those without computers/burners... this I agree with. 
I haven't bought a cd in a long time. I am willing to pay for music online, but I'm not willing to plop down $15-$20 for a cd with only a couple songs that I recognize.
the manager of Grokster, Wayne Rosso, pays the 200 dollar fine for the 12-year old girl
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Het hoofd van het p2p-bedrijf Grokster is van plan de RIAA-boete van tweeduizend dollar te betalen, die aan een twaalfjarig meisje is opgelegd. VNUNet schrijft dat directeur Wayne Rosso walgt van de praktijken van de belangenorganisatie. Brianna Laharra heeft noodgedwongen een overeenkomst gesloten met de organisatie, nadat zij als een van de 261 mensen werd aangeklaagd afgelopen maandag. Voor het delen van meer dan duizend muziekbestanden moet zij een boete van tweeduizend dollar betalen. Rosso zegt dat hij op dit moment probeert in contact te komen met de moeder van Brianna. Behalve Rosso zijn nog meer mensen bezorgd over de nieuwe actiemethode van de RIAA. Mensen zijn bang dat ze aangeklaagd worden voor vele duizenden dollars en zijn snel geneigd te schikken. Senator Norm Coleman noemt de aanklachten overdreven: But the shock and awe tactics by the RIAA are worrying some US politicians. "I don't think we need to club people to death to get them to understand that downloading is a problem. I worry that the tactics and the tools are excessive," Senator Norm Coleman said in a statement. |
Some great comments on this debate, a few points from me
The Mp3 scene and p2p sharing is getting bigger every year aswell as the number of broadband users signing up to cheap services are doubling, what do they expect you are going to do with a 512k connection , watch crappy movie trailers while you download the full movie for free ? or are they going to stream a sample of Britneys new album when you can download the whole thing in 20mins and put it on CDR for 10p ,
A few more facts , it is now to late for the RIAA, so what they sue a girl for $3000, while there record companies are loosing millions every year, they make these adverts threatning to sue you, for what $3k a song, when was the last time you saw a 12yr or anyone with more than $250k, in there bank. ok so you cant pay it and you goto jail, catch a few hubs with 3000 users and there will be no jails left, there must be 100's of millions of Terrabytes of mp3's out there.
Ok you download 20 albums a week for $0, say if you bought 20 albums in a retail shop its gonna cost you $300 not many ppl buy that i know spend that much on music, isn't it a good thing that ppl are listenning to more , rather than paying more !! and listenning to less which gives a chance for the artists to distrute new material easily.
Ok you are selling ilegal copies of albums to ppl, for $4 an album, its all gonna be taxed any way by the governments sooner or later which goes back into the system.
You turn on MTV which has 8-10 channels , Justin timberlake must be played 100 times a day , because he is a good artist NO ! Its because they need to drill his shit music into your brain so you buy the album and not download it.
Im glad that the POP industry is doing crap, songs like the ketchup song, bob the builder are number one. Most radio stations play the same music over and over again and never attemp to play something different , ok i am a trance fan, but that does not mean that i only like trance, the radio stations a suffering because the cant judge on whats good and whats bad anymore, they just go off image !! how many FAT pop bands have u seen recently ??? if i didn't have access to this forum and the HUB i would probabily of never like trance music, theres hundreds of trance artists out there that i had never of heard of.
The same will happen to DVD's and it will soon be the Film industry that suffers, with mobile technology comes into play the wole thing is gonna collapse id say in 5-10 years,
i doubt it when it comes to DVD's and the film industry... peopel go to movies to have a good time.. to hang out with friends/girlfriends... people on the internet have been pirating movies for a decade now... and the box office is still rackin up millions upon hundreds of millions of dollars..
Glad here we don't have that kind of problems... but anyway:
Perhaps if the RIAA directors weren't thinkin' in filling up their accounts, this whole issue would be alot more quiet. From them, I'd expect anything, but this one of making a 12-year old girl pay for musics that she DL'd... it's the laugh of the day. It doesn't matter the age of the guilty one, just matters if she crossed their "line" and has $$ to giveaway (I'm not saying that she's innocent, btw).
There's somewhere where a bomb could be placed: in the RIAA HQ.
I read that cd sales dropped 54% since they started to sue people.
RIAA Is Evil!
http://www.deviantart.com/view/486631/
LOL
The whole legal crap is indeed disgusting - it's not only hurting ordinary citizens, but the whole subpoena process is severely hurting the ISPs, especially the small ones.
But it's pretty damn hard to download a full album online. Most of that kind of trading tends to be done through private contacts and FTP, which the RIAA will never track down anyway. So it's funny that they liken the loss of their CD sales to downloads of single tracks - it's essentially proving the one most important point that people have been tossing at the record companies for decades - nobody wants to shell out $20 to a buy a 75 minute CD with 2 tracks they like and 70 minutes of filler!
Let's face the facts, though. The RIAA knows this. They know that what they're doing is utter bullshit. However, when the US government farted out the DMCA, the RIAA immediately saw it as a convenient way to maximize their profits in a slumping economy. If it wasn't for the DMCA, none of this would be happening, so I think some of the blame should be placed on the ignorant assholes in congress that allowed that "amendment" to be put in place.
The RIAA, as slimy as it is, just did the smart thing and took advantage of poor policy to cheat the public. This is nothing new - all big companies do it - it's perhaps slightly more "in-your-face" than it used to be, but they've been screwing the public out of their hard-earned cash for decades!
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| Originally posted by DigiNut The whole legal crap is indeed disgusting - it's not only hurting ordinary citizens, but the whole subpoena process is severely hurting the ISPs, especially the small ones. But it's pretty damn hard to download a full album online. Most of that kind of trading tends to be done through private contacts and FTP, which the RIAA will never track down anyway. So it's funny that they liken the loss of their CD sales to downloads of single tracks - it's essentially proving the one most important point that people have been tossing at the record companies for decades - nobody wants to shell out $20 to a buy a 75 minute CD with 2 tracks they like and 70 minutes of filler! Let's face the facts, though. The RIAA knows this. They know that what they're doing is utter bullshit. However, when the US government farted out the DMCA, the RIAA immediately saw it as a convenient way to maximize their profits in a slumping economy. If it wasn't for the DMCA, none of this would be happening, so I think some of the blame should be placed on the ignorant assholes in congress that allowed that "amendment" to be put in place. The RIAA, as slimy as it is, just did the smart thing and took advantage of poor policy to cheat the public. This is nothing new - all big companies do it - it's perhaps slightly more "in-your-face" than it used to be, but they've been screwing the public out of their hard-earned cash for decades! |
and stuff like that make it sooo easy. plus .audio.lossless is a new one that have 30 meg files and are PERFECT like 850 rated songs that have PERFECT 5.0 channel sound , its like youre in the studio!!!!
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| Originally posted by Orbax alt.binaries.cds.complete and stuff like that make it sooo easy. plus .audio.lossless is a new one that have 30 meg files and are PERFECT like 850 rated songs that have PERFECT 5.0 channel sound , its like youre in the studio!!!! |
******s
12 year olds get it in the butt too, trust me
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| Originally posted by Orbax 12 year olds get it in the butt too, trust me |
hmmmmm
if i were a top guy at RIAA i would be vewy vewy scared.
i mean, theres GOTTA be some psycho waiting outside theyre office with a shotgun or something.
right??
*hides large object inside coat*
"fuck em, fuck em all!"
well first of all it's totally retarded second of all she is under 18 AKA : The press is FORBIDDEN to publish under 18 years of age criminals names... Well at least that's the law.
i don't think they started suing ppl to get their money back.it's not about the money,they're trying to scare ppl so they won't share ne files and no shares=no downloads (it's not right but i'm quite sure that's what they think).wtf?are they blind?they make ppl furious,everyone hates 'em.and even one person who would normally buy a cd but doesn't cuz of RIAA anti-mp3 tactics is loss.ffs can't they see they have to release quality in affordable prices?that's the only way the sales will go up! 
^ Actually, it's 100% about the money. They know that file sharing isn't hurting their business (as opposed to the economy, their lowered volume of production, and their crappy quality and fed up customers); they've simply capitalized on the DMCA and decided to pull in a few extra bucks to compensate for slumping sales.
I suppose you're right in saying that they didn't sue to get their money back, but keep in mind that back is the operative word there.
When you're in big business, you rake in the cash from wherever you can find it. Since your average Joe Schmoe doesn't have the means to fight a lawsuit against the RIAA, it's practically guaranteed that they'll settle out of court and offer a fistful of cash. It's not scare tactics, it's simply a get-rich-quick scheme that can only be pulled off by a gigantic conglomerate like the RIAA.
They've found a new money tree - there must be millions of people sharing these files, and because of the DMCA, it's costing them next to nothing (relative to what they make from the suits) to pluck its leaves. Think about it - if they even got 1000 people at $2000 each, that's $2 million right there!
i9 just got sued for 13 dikkars vy the riaa wooooooooooooo oh nooooooOOOOO babyyyyyyyyy ehehheheheheh jordany drink your beer faster maaaan geta buzzzzzzzzz ssoooootttttttt
many great points here.....i wish this topic evolved to something more
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BUT!! That would mean that great artists like Brittany Spears, P.Diddy and Blink 182 wouldn't be able to buy a new car every week because they would be making a lot less money!! (and dude, that is such a good idea it's not even funny. Stars are making way too much money nowadays...same goes for sports-stars) |
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| Originally posted by Orbax 12 year olds get it in the butt too, trust me |
Hey... Isn't this the same group of guys who came after Elian Gonzalez? >.<
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