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Originally posted by drizzt81 the question is: Are ENOUGH U.S. Citizens sheep so that they can get away with it? I pray not :S

They really can't get away with it. Their power of propaganda just isn't strong enough to defeat the internet and the other freely flowing channels of communication.

We believe them! Just like we believe them telling us that there's no Area 51.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story...58&nav=168XGVQf

LMFAO!

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Originally posted by occrider You must know better ... come on.

come on...you have to admit that this country is not a democracy. negro, please.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Calling our current policy neo-McCarthyism wouldn't be too much of a stretch.

no stretch at all.. for example: everybody on an F1 visa is now -by default- a terrorist.

i dont like bush, ergo i'm not patriotic, ergo i'm a terrorist.

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 i dont like bush, ergo i'm not patriotic, ergo i'm a terrorist.

That's how they would try to spin it alright!

I always question, "who's watching the watchers?"

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,60129,00.html

You see, we're not ALL sheep!

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,56922,00.html

On Tuesday, Oakland became the 20th municipality to pass a resolution barring its employees -- from police officer to librarian -- from collaborating with federal officials who may try to use their new power to investigate city residents.

There are now over 130 municipalities that have passed similar resolutions repudiating the Patriot Act.

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 come on...you have to admit that this country is not a democracy. negro, please.

Ah ok ... then everybody should vote for Bush in '04 for shits and giggles then

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Originally posted by drizzt81 no stretch at all.. for example: everybody on an F1 visa is now -by default- a terrorist.

I know. It's pretty sad, isn't it!?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I know. It's pretty sad, isn't it!?

not sad, disappointing.. isn't Science and Knowledge supposed to be free? I could go on about this subject, but i am at work.

Just think about how the world was when a few people [the church] were able to control knowledge... It is academic tradition to exchange knowledge and regulating this to the amount that the US does (i am too lazy to look up the statistics, but F1 applications have gone down tremenduously and so have approval rates) is just WRONG.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Their power of propaganda just isn't strong enough to defeat the internet and the other freely flowing channels of communication.

On a side note, my computer was attacked shortly after posting here last night. It was a concerted effort by about 8 different IP addresses simultaneously. They were hitting ports 135 and 445 until it switched off and then back on, and a few minutes later off again. Now Windows won't even load in safe mode... luckily I have this computer here at work... and even more luckily is the fact that I have just about all of my trance (both live-sets and singles) on 2 separate hard drives so reformatting my C drive won't mean a loss of anything except my firewall logs.

I wonder if it could have been these guys?
http://www.voy.com/129276/47.html

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Originally posted by drizzt81 not sad, disappointing.. isn't Science and Knowledge supposed to be free? I could go on about this subject, but i am at work. Just think about how the world was when a few people [the church] were able to control knowledge... It is academic tradition to exchange knowledge and regulating this to the amount that the US does (i am too lazy to look up the statistics, but F1 applications have gone down tremenduously and so have approval rates) is just WRONG.

It's both sad AND disappointing! However, knowledge is power and "they" don't want us to have any of it. Public knowledge gives rise to semi-informed individuals such as ourselves who are both discerning and astute enough to see through the lies which they so desperately seek to conceal.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X It's both sad AND disappointing! However, knowledge is power and "they" don't want us to have any of it. Public knowledge gives rise to semi-informed individuals such as ourselves who are both discerning and astute enough to see through the lies which they so desperately seek to conceal.

I think you are looking at this with too much of a conspiracy theory perspective.. i don't think that there is this whole government conspiracy, but Bush just wants enforce the things that he believes in.
He thinks that all the people are "bad" and he has to show us the right way, by force if neccessary. I mean, he is a president that uses the "god" word an aweful lot in a country, where church and state are SUPPOSEDLY seperate.

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Originally posted by drizzt81 I think you are looking at this with too much of a conspiracy theory perspective.. i don't think that there is this whole government conspiracy, but Bush just wants enforce the things that he believes in. He thinks that all the people are "bad" and he has to show us the right way, by force if neccessary. I mean, he is a president that uses the "god" word an aweful lot in a country, where church and state are SUPPOSEDLY seperate.

Bush is just a mouthpiece. And no I don't believe it's a "whole" government conspiracy. It's probably just a small (but powerful) faction within the government.

One of the big deciding factors for me becoming an expat (again!) was the Bushman admin and policies (thatz a long story i won't get into) but even in absentium I will always vote

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Originally posted by Trancer-X It's probably just a small (but powerful) faction within the government.

The extreme neo-cons that are pulling the puppet strings in this sad excuse for a government.

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Originally posted by drizzt81 I think you are looking at this with too much of a conspiracy theory perspective.. i don't think that there is this whole government conspiracy, but Bush just wants enforce the things that he believes in. He thinks that all the people are "bad" and he has to show us the right way, by force if neccessary. I mean, he is a president that uses the "god" word an aweful lot in a country, where church and state are SUPPOSEDLY seperate.

Oddly enough one of the beliefs of conservatives is actually to minimize the amount of military involvement overseas, and reduce the size of government (especially the fed. gov). Many of the administration's recent actions don't mirror these beliefs at all.
In fact the size and scope of government has increased greatly in the time since Bush has been in office. Of course it's obvious how well Bush's 2000 campaign claim that he will remove troops from foreign soil has been going....


[Elmo voice]Today's word of the day is: NEOCON[/Elmo voice]

This is without a doubt the stupidist thing I've ever heard of in my life:

FFS

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8 Year Prison Sentence A husband and wife recently threw a birthday party for their son at their house and unwisely served some alcohol to the teens in attendance. The young people had a good time and fortunately no one was injured, got into an auto accident, or suffered any ill-effects. But the large party got loud enough for some neighbors to call the police. The parents were arrested and each was sentenced to eight years in prison.... a total of 16 years in prison for the couple. It is clearly both illegal and unwise to serve alcohol to anyone else's child, even with parental permission, snd even if the "child" is an adult under the age of 21. Source: Penalty should shock us sober (editorial). The Daily Progress (VA), 2-12-03.

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http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=132967


Land of the free...

"The Rabbit Hole Runs Deep..."

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Originally posted by Trancer-X On a side note, my computer was attacked shortly after posting here last night (...). I wonder if it could have been these guys? http://www.voy.com/129276/47.html

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(Posted for informational purposes only.)



INSIDE THE SHADOW CIA

by

John Connolly

SPY Magazine - Sept 1992 - Volume 6

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What? A big private company - one with a board of former CIA, FBI and Pentagon officials; one in charge of protecting Nuclear-Weapons facilities, nuclear reactors, the Alaskan oil pipeline and more than a dozen American embassies abroad; one with long-standing ties to a radical ring-wing organization; one with 30,000 men and women under arms - secretly helped IRAQ in its effort to obtain sophisticated weapons? And fueled unrest in Venezuela? This is all the plot of a new best-selling thriller, right? Or the ravings of some overheated conspiracy buff,right? Right?

WRONG.

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In the WINTER OF 1990, David Ramirez, a 24 year-old member of the Special Investigations Division of the Wackenhut Corporation, was sent by his superiors on an unusual mission. Ramirez a former Marine Corps sergeant based in Miami, was told to fly immediately to San Antonio along with three other members of SID-a unit, known as founder and chairman George Wackenhut's "private FBI," that provided executive protection and conducted undercover investigations and sting operations. Once they arrived, they rented two gray Ford Tauruses and drove four hours to a desolate town on the Mexican border called Eagle Pass. There, just after dark, they met two truck
drivers who had been flown in from Houston. Inside a nearby warehouse was an 18 -wheel tractor-trailer, which the two truck drivers and the four Wackenhut agents in their rented cars were supposed to transport to Chicago. "My instructions were very clear," Ramirez recalls. "Do not look into the trailer, secure it, and make sure it safely gets to Chicago." It went without saying that no one else was supposed to look in the trailer, either, which is why the Wackenhut men were armed with fully loaded Remington 870 pump-action shotguns.

The convoy drove for 30 hours straight, stopping only for gas and food. Even then, one of the Wackenhut agents had to stay with the truck, standing by one of the cars, its trunk open, shotgun within easy reach. "Whenever we stopped, I bought a shot glass with the name of the town on it," Ramirez recalls. "I have glasses from Oklahoma City, Kansas City, St. Louis."

A little before 5:00 on the morning of the third day, they delivered the trailer to a practically empty warehouse outside Chicago. A burly man who had been waiting for them on the loading dock told them to take off the locks and go home, and that was that. They were on a plane back to Miami that afternoon. Later Ramirez's superiors told him-as they told other SID agents about similar midnight runs-that the trucks contained $40 million worth of food stamps. After considering the secrecy, the way the team was assembled and the orders not to stop or open the truck, Ramirez decided he didn't believe that explanation.

Neither do we. One reason is simple: A Department of Agriculture official simply denies that food stamps are shipped that way. Someone is blowing smoke," he says. Another reason is that after a six-month investigation, in the course of which we spoke to more than 300 people, we believe we know what the truck did contain-equipment necessary for the manufacture of chemical weapons-and where it was headed: to Saddam Hussein's Iraq. And the Wackenhut Corporation-a publicly traded company with strong ties to the CIA and federal contracts worth $200 million a year-was making sure Saddam would
be geting his equipment intact. The question is why. In 1954, George
Wackenhut, then a 34-year old former FBI agent, joined up with three other former FBI agents to open a company in Miami called Special Agent Investigators Inc. The partnership was neither successful nor
harmonious-George once knocked partner Ed Dubois unconscious to end a
disagreement over the direction the company would take-and in 1958, George bought out his partners.

However capable Wackenhut's detectives may have been at their work, George Wackenhut had two personal attributes that were instrumental in the company's growth. First, he got along exceptionally well with important politicians. He was a close ally of Florida governor Claude Kirk, who hired him to combat organized crime in the state; and was also friends with Senator George Smathers, an intimate of John F. Kennedy's. It was Smathers who provided Wackenhut with his big break when the senator's law firm helped the company find a loophole in the Pinkerton law, the 1893 federal statute that had made it a crime for an employee of a private detective agency to do work for the government. Smathers's firm set up a wholly owned subsidiary of
Wackenhut that provided only guards, not detectives. Shortly thereafter, Wackenhut received multimillion-dollar contracts from the government to guard Cape Canaveral and the Nevada nuclear-bomb test site, the first of many extremely lucrative federal contracts that have sustained the company to this day.

The second thing that helped make George Wackenhut successful was that he was, and is, a hard-line right-winger. He was able to profit from his beliefs by building up dossiers on Americans suspected of being Communists or merely left-leaning-"subversives and sympathizers," as he put it-and selling the information to interested parties. According to Frank Donner, the author of "Age of Surveillance", the Wackenhut Corporation maintained and updated its files even after the McCarthyite hysteria had ebbed, adding the names of antiwar protesters and civil-rights demonstrators to its list
of "derogatory types." By 1965, Wackenhut was boasting to potential
investors that the company maintained files on 2.5 million suspected
dissidents-one in 46 American adults then living. in 1966, after acquiring the private files of Karl Barslaag; a former staff member of the House Committee on Un-American Activities, Wackenhut could confidently maintain that with more than 4 million names, it had the largest privately held file on suspected dissidents in America. In 1975, after Congress investigated companies that had private files, Wackenhut gave its files to the now-defunct anti-Communist Church League of America of Wheaton, Illinois. That organization had worked closely with the red squads of big-city police departments, particularly in New York and L.A., spying on suspected sympathizers; George Wackenhut was personal friends with the League's leaders, and was a major contributor to the group. To be sure, after giving the League its files, Wackenhut reserved the right to use them for its
clients and friends.

Wackenhut had gone public in 1965 ; George Wackenhut retained 54 percent of the company. Between his salary and dividends, his annual compensation approaches $2 million a year, sufficient for him to live in a $20 million castle in Coral Gables, Florida, complete with a moat and 18 full-time servants. Today the company is the third-largest investigative security firm in the country, with offices throughout the United States and in 39 foreign countries.

It is not possible to overstate the special relationship Wackenhut enjoys with the federal government. It is close. When it comes to security matters, Wackenhut in many respects *is* the government. In 1991, a third of the company's $600- million in revenues came from the federal government, and another large chunk from companies that themselves work for the government, such as Westinghouse.

Wackenhut is the largest single company supplying security to U.S. embassies overseas; several of the 13 embassies it guards have been in important hotbeds of espionage, such as Chile, Greece and El Salvador. It also guards nearly all the most strategic government facilities in the U.S., including the Alaskan oil pipeline, the Hanford nuclear-waste facility, the Savannah River plutonium plant and the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Wackenhut maintains an especially close relationship with the federal
government in other ways as well. While early boards of directors included such prominent personalities of the political right as Captain Eddie Rickenbacker; General Mark Clark and Ralph E. Davis, a John Birch Society leader, current and recent members of the board have included much of the country's recent national-security directorate: former FBI director Clarence Kelley; former Defense secretary and former CIA deputy director Frank Carlucci: former Defense Intelligence Agent director General Joseph Carroll; former U.S. Secret Service director James J. Rowley; former Marine commandant P. X. Kelley; and acting chairman of President Bush's foreign- intelligence advisory board and former CIA deputy director Admiral Bobby Ray Inman. Before his appointment as Reagan's CIA director, the late William Casey was Wackenhut's outside legal counsel. The company has 30,000 armed employees on its payroll.

We wanted to know more about this special relationship; but the government was not forthcoming. Repeated requests to the Department of Energy for an explanation of how one company got the security contracts for neariy all of America's most strategic installations have gone unanswered.

Similarly, efforts to get the State Department to explain whether embassy contracts were awarded arbitrarily or through competitive bidding were fruitless; essentially, the State Department said, "Some of both."
Wackenhut's competitors-who, understandably, asked not to be quoted by
name-have their own version. "All those contracts;" said one security-firm executive, "are just another way to pay Wackenhut for their clandestine help. And what is the nature of that help? "It is known throughout the industry," said retired FBI special agent William Hinshaw, "that if you want a dirty job done, call Wackenhut." We met George Wackenhut in his swanky, muy macho offices in Coral Gables. The rooms are paneled in a dark, rich rosewood, accented with gray-blue stone. The main office is dominated by Wackenhut's 12-foot-long desk and a pair of chairs shaped like elephants- "Republican chairs," he calls them-complete with real tusks, which, the old man says with some amusement, tend to stick his visitors. The highlight of the usual collection of pictures and awards is the Republican presidential
exhibit: an autographed photo of Wackenhut shaking hands with George Bush (whom Wackenhut, according to a former associate, used to call "that pinko") as well as framed photos of Presidents Reagan, Nixon and Bush, each accompanied by a handwritten note. The chairman looks every inch the comfortable Florida septuagenarian. The day we spoke, his clothing ranged across the color spectrum from baby blue to light baby blue, and he wore a lot of jewelry-a huge gold watch on a thick gold band, two massive goid rings. But Wackenhut was, at 72, quick and tough in his responses. Near the end of our two-and-a-half hour interview, when asked if his company was an arm of the CIA, he snapped, "No!"



Of course, this may just be a matter of semantics. We have spoken to
numerous experts, including current and former CIA agents and analysts, current and former agents of the Drug Enforcement Administration and current and former Wackenhut executives and employees, all of whom have said that in the mid-197O's, atter the Senate Intelligence Committee's revelations of the CIA's covert and sometimes illegal overseas operations, the agency and Wackenhut grew very, very close. Those revelations had forced the CIA to do a housecleaning, and it became CIA policy that certain kinds of activities would no longer officially be performed. But that didn't always mean that the need or the desire to undertake such operations disappeared. And that's where Wackenhut came in.

Our sources confirm that Wackenhut has had a long- standing relationship with the CIA, and that it has deepened over the last decade or so. Bruce Berckmans, who was assigned to the CIA station in Mexico City, left the agency in January 1975 (putatively) to become a Wackenhut international-operations vice president. Berckmans, who left Wackenhut in 1981, told SPY that he has seen a formal proposal George Wackenhut submitted to the CIA to allow the agency to use Wackenhut offices throughout the world as fronts for CIA activities. Kichard Babayan, who says he was a CIA contract employee and is currently in jail awaiting trial on fraud and racketeering charges, has been cooperating with federal and congressional investigators looking into illegal shipments of nuclear-and-chemical-weapons- making supplies to Iraq. "Wackenhut has been used by the CIA and other intelligence agencies for years," he told SPY.
"When they [the CIA] need cover, Wackenhut is there to provide it for them."
Canadian prime minister Pierre Trudeau was said to have rebuffed Wackenhut's effort in the 1980's to purchase a weapons propellant manufacturer in Quebec with the remark "We just got rid of the CIA-we don't want them back." Phillip Agee, the left-wing former CIA agent who wrote an expose' of the agency in 1975, told us, "I don't have the slightest doubt that the CIA and Wackenhut overlap."

There is also testimony from people who are not convicts, renegades or
Canadians. William Corbett, a terrorism expert who spent 18 years as a CIA analyst and is now an ABC News consultant based in Europe, confirmed the relationship between Wackenhut and the agency. "For years Wackenhut has been involved with the CIA and other intelligence organizations, including the DEA," he told SPY. "Wackenhut would allow the CIA to occupy positions within the company [in order to carry out] clandestine operations." He also said that Wackenhut would supply intelligence agencies with information, and that it was compensated for this- "in a quid pro quo arrangement," Corbett
says-with government contracts worth billions of dollars over the years.

We have uncovered considerable evidence that Wackenhut carried the CIA's water in fighting Communist encroachment in Central America in the 1980s (that is to say, during the Reagan administration when the CIA director was former Wackenhut lawyer William Casey, the late superpatriot who had a proclivity for extralegal and illegal anti-Communist covert operations such as Iran-contra). In 1981, Berckmans, the CIA agent turned Wackenhut vice president, joined with other senior Wackenhut executives to form the company's Special Projects Division. It was this division that linked up with ex-CIA man John Phillip Nichols, who had taken over the Cabazon Indian reservation in California, as we described in a previous article ["Badlands," April 1992], in pursuit of a scheme to manufacture explosives, poison gas and biological weapons-and then, by virtue of the tribe's status
as a sovereign nation, to export the weapons to the contras. This maneuver was designed to evade congressional prohibitions against the U.S. government's helping the contras. Indeed, in an interview with SPY, Eden Pastora, the contras' famous Commander Zero, who had been spotted at a test of some night-vision goggles at a firing range near the Cabazon reservation in the company of Nichols and a Wackenhut executive, offhandedly identified that executive, A. Robert Frye, as "the man from the CIA. " (In a subsequent conversation he denied knowing Frye at all; of course, in that same talk he quite unbelievably denied having ever been a contra.)

In addition to attempted weapons supply, Wackenhut seems to have been involved in Central America in other ways. Ernesto Bermudez who was Wackenhut's director of international operations from 1987 to '89, admitted to SPY that during 1985 and '86 he ran Wackenhut's operations in El Salvador, where he was in charge of 1,500 men. When asked what 1 ,500 men were doing for Wackenhut in El Salvador, Bermudez replied coyly, "Things." Pressed, he elaborated: "Things you wouldn't want your mother to know about." It's worth noting that Wackenhut's annual revenues from government contracts--the alleged reward for cooperation in the government's clandestine activities-increased by 150 million, a 45 percent jump, while Ronald Reagan was in office. "You've done an awful lot of research, George Wackenhut said to me as I was leaving. "How would you like to run all our New York operations?"

If that was the extent of Wackenhut's possible involvement in a government agency's attempt to circumvent the law, then we might dismiss it as an interesting footnote to the overheated, cowboy anti- Communist 1980s. However, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida has been conducting an investigation into the illegal export of dual-use technology-that is, seemingly innocuous technology that can also be used to make nuclear weapons to Iraq and Libya. And SPY has learned that Wackenhut's name has come up in the federal investigation, but not at present as a target.



Between 1987 and '89, three companies in the United States received
investments from an Iraqi architect named Ihsan Barbouti. The colorful
Barbouti owned an engineering company in Frankfort that had a $552 million contract to build airfields in Iraq. He also admitted having designed Mu'ammar Qaddafi's infamous German-built chemical- weapons plant in Rabta, Libya. According to an attorney for one of the companies in which Barbouti invested, the architect owned $100 million worth of real estate and oil-drilling equipment in Texas and Oklahoma. He may also be dead, there being reports that he died of heart failure in Hospital in London on July 1, 1990, his 63rd birthday. Barbouti, however, had faked his death once before, in 1969, after the Ba'ath takeover in Iraq which brought Saddam Hussein to power as the second-in-command. That time, Barbouti escaped Iraq;
resurfacing several years later in Lebanon and Libya. There are no reports that he is living in Jordan -or, according to other reports, in a CIA safe house in Florida. Those reports can be considered no better than rumor; what follows, though, is fact.

As reported on ABC's "Nightline" last year, the three companies in which Barbouti invested were TK-7 of Oklahoma City, which makes a fuel additive; Pipeline Recovery Systems of Dallas, which makes an anti-corrosive chemical that preserves pipes; and Product Ingredient Technoiogy of Boca Raton, which makes food flavorings. None of these companies was looking to do business with Iraq; Barbouti sought them out. Why was he interested? Because TK-7 had formulas that could extend the range of jet aircraft and liquid-fueled missiles such as the SCUD; because Pipeline Recovery knows how to coat pipes to make them usable in nuclear reactors and chemical-weapons plants; and because one of the by- products in making cherry flavoring is ferric
ferrocyanide, a chemical that's used to manufacture hydrogen cyanide, which can penetrate gas masks and protective clothing. Hydrogen cyanide was used by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds in the Iran-Iraq war.

Barbouti was more than a passive investor, and soon he began pressuring the companies to ship not only their products but also their manufacturing technology to corporations he owned in Europe, on which, he told the businessmen, it would be sent to Libya and Iraq. In doing so, Barbouti was attempting to violate the law. First, the U.S. forbade sending anything to Libya, which was embargoed as a terrorist nation. Second, the U.S. specified that material of this sort must be sent to its final destination, not to an intermediate locale, where the U.S. would risk losing control of its distribution. According to former CIA contract employee Richard Babayan, in late 1989 Barbouti met in London with Ibrahim Sabawai, Saddam Hussein's half brother and European head of Iraqi intelligence, who grew excited about the work Pipeline Recovery was doing and called for the company's technology to be rushed to Iraq, so that it could be in place by early 1990. And the owner of TK-7 swears that Barbouti told him he was developing an atom device for Qaddafi that would be used against the U.S. in retaliation for the 1986 U.S. air strike against Libya. Barbouri also wanted the ferrocyanide from Product Ingredient.

Assisting Barbouti with these investments was New Orleans exporter Don
Seaton, business associate of Richard Secord, the right-wing U.S. Army
general turned war profiteer who was so deeply enmeshed in the Iran-contra affair. It was Secord who connected Barbouti with Wackenhut. Barbouti met with Secord in Florida on several occasions, and phone records show that several calls were placed from Barbouti's office to Secord's private number in McLean, Virginia; Secord has acknowledged knowing Barbouti. He is currently a partner of Washington businessman James Tully (who is the man who leaked Bill Clinton's draft-dodge letter to ABC) and Jack Brennan, a former Marine Corps colonel and longtime aide to Richard Nixon both in the White House and in exile. Brennan has gone back to the White House, where he works as a director of administrative operations in President Bush's office.
He refused to return repeated calls from SPY. Interestingly, Brennan and Tully had previously been involved in a $181 million business deal to supply uniforms to the Iraqi army. Oddly, they arranged to have the uniforms manufactured in Nicolae Ceaucescu's Romania. The partners in that deal were former U.S. attorney general and Watergate felon John Mitchell and Sarkis Soghanalian, a Turkish-born Lebanese citizen. Soghanalian, who has been credited with being Saddam Hussein's leading arms procurer and with introducing the demonic weapons inventor Gerald Bull to the Iraqis, is currently serving a six-year sentence in federal prison in Miami for the illegal sale of 103 military helicopters to Iraq. According to former Wackenhut agent David Ramirez, the company considered Soghanalian "a very valuable client."

Unfortunately for Barbouti, none of the companies in which he made
investments was willing to ship its products or technology to his European divisions. That, however, doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't get some of what he wanted. In 1990, 2,000 gallons of ferrocyanide were found to be missing from the cherry-flavor factory in Boca Raton. Where it went is a mystery; Peter Kawaja, who was the head of security for all of Barbouti's U.S. investments, told SPY, "We were never burglarized, but that stuff didn't walk out by itself."

What does all this have to do with Wackenhut? Lots: According to Louis
Champon, the owner of Product Ingredient Technology, it was Wackenhut that guarded his Boca Raton plant, a fact confirmed by Murray Levine, a Wackenhut vice president. Champon also says, and Wackenhut also confirms, that the security for the plant consisted of one unarmed guard. While a Wackenhut spokesperson maintains that this was the only job they were doing for Barbouti, he also says that they were never paid, that Barbouti stiffed them.


This does not seem true. SPY has obtained four checks from Barbouti to
Wackenhut. All were written within ten days in 1990: one on March 27 for $168.89; one on March 28 for $24,828.07; another on April 5 for $756; the last on April 6 for $40,116.25. We asked Richard Kneip, Wackenhut's senior vice president for corporate planning, to explain why a single guard was worth $66,000 a year; Kneip was at a loss to do so. He was similarly at a loss to explain a fifth check, from another Barbouti company to Wackenhut's travel-service division in 1987, almost two years before Wackenhut has acknowledged providing security for the Boca Raton plant .

Two former CIA operatives, separately interviewed, have the explanation. Charles Hayes, who describes himself as "a CIA asset " says Wackenhut was helping Barbouti ship chemicals to Iraq, "Supplying Iraq was originally a good idea," he maintains, "but then it got out of hand. Wackenhut was just in it for the money." Richard Babayan the former CIA contract employee, confirmed Hayes's account. He says that Wackenhut's relationship with Barbouti existed before the Boca Raton plant opened: "Barbouti was placed in the hands of Secord by the CIA, and Secord called in Wackenhut to handle security and travel and protection for Barbouti and his export plans."
Wackenhut, Babayan says was working for the CIA in helping Barbouti ship the chemical- and-nuclear-weapons-making equipment first to Texas, then to Chicago, and then to Baltimore to be shipped overseas. All of which makes the story of the midnight convoy ride of David Ramirez, recounted at the beginning of this article rather less mysterious. SPY has learned that this shipment is now the subject of a joint USDA- Customs investigation.

When we asked George Wackenhut what was being shipped from Eagle Pass to Chicago, the sharp, straightforward chairman at first claimed they were protecting an unnamed executive. He then directed an aide to get back to me. Two days later, Richard Kneip did, repeating the tale that had been passed on to David Ramirez-that the trucks contained food stamps. We told him that we had spoken to a Department of Agriculture official, who informed us that food stamps are shipped from Chicago to outlying areas, never the other way around, and that food stamps, unlike money, are used once and then destroyed. All Kneip would say then was, "We do not reveal the names of our
clients."

Wackenhut's connection to the CIA and to other government agencies raises several troubling questions:

First, is the CIA using Wackenhut to conduct operations that it has been forbidden to undertake? Second, is the White House or some other party in the executive branch working through Wackenhut to conduct operations that it doesn't want Congress to know about? Third, has Wackenhut's cozy relationship with the government given it a feeling of security-or worse, an outright knowledge of sensitive or embarrassing information-that allows the company to believe that it can conduct itself as though it were above the law? A congressional investigation into Wackenhut's activities in the Alyeska affair last November began to shed some light on Wackenhut's way of doing business; clearly it's time for Congress to investigate just how far Wackenhut's other tentacles extend.

Additional reporting by Eric Reguly, Margie Sloan and Wendell Smith


Sorry for the crappy cut and paste

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I wonder if it could have been these guys? http://www.voy.com/129276/47.html

Date Posted: 17:38:45 05/13/03 Tue
Author: Janine M. Legg, MBA
Subject: Wackenhut-Cyberterrorists for hire

P R E S S R E L E A S E
ACC Accuses Wackenhut
International Corporation
EMPLOYEEs of Tortuous &
Criminal Harassment.
Finds Wackenut's Security Force Website's Digital Signatures on Fraudulent
Messages being placed on ACC's Website by Hackers, who had allegedly
engaged in months of interference in ACC's operations. Suggests that
Wackenhut might be operating a CYBER-TERRORISM TEAM on the WEB.

Cranford, NJ. April 25, 1997

After discovering digital signatures it couldn't identify on its web server in bulletin board messages and access records, ACC installed updated remote host detection code in an effort to determine who or what was behind a concerted effort to interfere with its operations, and that of its Publication Department's On-Line Investigation into the Science of Space Travel, Aerospace Science, and such interesting commentary topics as the alleged 1947 Roswell, NM crash of a UFO, and public reaction to it, and theories about the tragic Kennedy, King and Rabin assassinations.

Round the clock surveillance of its own equipment for three months finally paid off when, after isolating the pattern of fraudulent access to its servers, a message left by a member of the group of hackers
engaging in what ACC called "pre-planned, well organized harassment of ACC by wire fraud, email fraud and telephonic threatening", revealed the original digital signature of that user's WEB HOST, and what is now believed to be the origins of the entire group hacking ACC's equipment.

The message, one of hundreds from the same small group of hackers, originated on the servers maintained by
Wackenhut International Corporation's "Mail1" server, part of the Gateway used by Wackenhut, a billion dollar
International Security Force provider to the US Government, to gain access to the Internet. Wackenhut's equipment is not set up for Public Anonymous usage, and has extensive security, precluding the possibility that the hackers had hacked into Wackenhuts equipment to use it as a shield, stated an Internet Security Expert
employed by ACC.

"This is consistent with a pattern of deliberate abuse of ACC's Web Servers and Email accounts: employees at
Wackenhut, using its internal Web Server access accounts and equipment, have apparently been SPAMMING and TERRORIZING the American Computer Company 'Publications Department' which has been pursuing a journalistic investigation of the issues regarding Wackenhut's CLIENTs involvement in an alleged cover-up of the capture of a Crashed UFO, kept supposedly at Area 51, which Wackenhut provides inside security services to for the US Air Force," stated a forum supervisor known to the Internet Public only as 'Morpheus' through the On-Line "Alien Science and Technologies Forum", maintained by ACC's Publications Department.

"The real question is, which of Wackenhut's very visible CLIENTs may have commissioned this alleged CYBERWAR against ACC," he added.

The Alien Science and Technology Forum is a light, satiric, educational investigation of scientific issues involving space travel, aerospace science, electronic science, physics, and other areas of research, politics, commerce and human sociology. Among its topics are the infamous Roswell UFO Crash, in the public spotlight
recently due to the 50th Anniversary of Roswell held during the Summer of 1997.

During the period, ACC issued a light commentary about the allegations made by one Lt. Col. Philip Corso, Nuclear Physicist Stanton Friedman and an anonymous Consultant, that started an inquiry as to whether they were correct or not in suggesting such 1940's engineering marvels as the Bell Transistor, were in reality derived from Alien Technology taken off the allegedly downed Roswell UFO.

Within a week of publishing its original story, ACC indicated, its offices had been broken into, it had received classified materials leaked it deliberately by a "consultant" and faxed to it without solicitation, and extensive sabotage of its Web Equipment was already underway.

"We got a reaction to what we thought would be responded to as a humorous story, that we did not expect!" stated ACC President Jack Shulman. "In fact, we have had millions of visitors come to our web site to find out more (http://accpc.com/roswell.htm is the page on which the strange story of Roswell 1947 is posted) and have by investigation found inconsistencies in the stories about technology transfer both at the Bell System in 1947 surrounding the origins of the Transistor, and at the operation of the Z-Division - which today consists of our Nuclear Defense programs, plus Sandia Corporation, and a half dozen National Laboratories, including Lawrence Livermore, Alamagordo, Sandia, Berkeley, Oak Ridge, Hanford and others. The whole thing has become an exceedingly strange story. The more we try to look away from the odd allegations by Corso, Friedman and others of strange goings on at the National Labs, the more the story draws us back."

"During the time period, the web warfare against ACC by what looked for all the world like a concerted group of fanatical hackers, took on global proportions, including the illegal use of multiple proxies by the hackers to hide their identities from us as they alternately tried to topple our equipment, tie up our staff and equipment, and harassed us with insults, defamation, libel, out and out nonsense, and telephonic and electronic death threats. This was accompanied by the posting of libelous email to millions of email boxes, all of it very well orchestrated, with, at its epicenter, one or two people using phony names who claimed to be 'UFO investigators', whose source web sites have one unique attribute: the hackers possess extremely rare links to the old-style inward Darpa-net that can not be communicated with by those of us in the outside world easier, perhaps linking them to some unknown Defense Advanced Research Projects site of which we and the Public are unfamiliar, perhaps one used to surveil and coordinate their efforts on the Internet."

"It wasn't until we finally were able to penetrate a web of proxy misdirection, that we began to get suspicious of WACKENHUT, as they provide security services to the laboratories, Area 51 and commercial providers such as Bell Labs, Rockwell and others, and to the Armed Services and Correctional Centers throughout the US."

"Fortunately for us, their employees got clumsy this week, and when posting the usual round of Cyberwar Transmissions, our equipment was able to identify, for the first time, that these hackers were operating from WACKENHUT's WEB SYSTEMS, hosted for them by Florida Internet (FLINET) near WACKENHUT's West Palm Beach, Florida Mega-Corporate Headquarters. At this moment it is not clear to what extent Wackenhut's management is involved, were aware, or whether Wackenhut's close affiliation with its client's computer equipment was simply being used as a vantage point to harass ACC from."

"We have asked the Justice Department and the National Security Agency to look into the hacking and intrusion for the possibility that Wackenhut should have its 'sensitive top secret' security clearance revoked until we get to the bottom of this, as the security violations also included one breach into our passwords file by what appear to be a security operative directed by Wackenhut, along with depicitions of our executives on the Internet with rifle sight cross hairs added to their images, filing of false registrations with the Internic, and sending of threatening audio transmissions to our voice mail. It appears likely that intrusions into our web server from what we determined are Classified websites at Wright Patterson Air Force base during the past few months, may also have involved the company's personnel. We commenced a lengthy criminal investigation of the harassment when the individuals involved started posting the telephone numbers and names of Family Members of ACC's executives, encouraging others to harass what turned out to be 80 year old senior citizens and spouses and children. At that point we decided to catch the harassers and seek punitive damages."

"If it turns out that Wackenhut did this thing for a client of theirs, we are going to seek State or Federal punitive damages against Mr. George Wackenhut, the company's chairman, as I am going to hold him personally accountable for the millions of dollars in financial damages he may have caused ACC and for the emotional impact of the threats on my elderly parents, who are in their late 70's and 80's, enfeebled and ill, and I am sure others here who have been harmed by the Hackers are going to do likewise." added Mr. Shulman.

"Its one thing to respond to a humorous look at the lighter side of technology, Space Science and UFOlogy, by posting equivalent information on the Web in your own name. Its another thing to use anonymous user names to go about deliberately trying to destroy someone, and that's what these hackers are trying to do. It became quite clear that these were no ordinary group of typical 'hacker youth' - they have been too disciplined, too regimented and too well advised on using psychology to try to set their opposition off balance. To some degree they have recruited a few hacker youth to assist them, but thats been done through a SPIDERWEB of lies and deceit. We have been gauging and studying them for a long time, and we have coined a new phrase to describe what may ultimately turn out to be Wackenhut's alleged INTERNET Hacker Team: Cybermercenaries, or CyberMercs for short. Of course, we want to give Wackenhut a chance to respond in their own defense, perhaps in Court, but since this may involve one of their 'Sensitive Military Area' clients disinterested in our Probe into the Science of UFOlogy and Space Fligth and the Science of the US Nuclear Defense Program, we are doubtful they, Wackenhut, will do anything but remain silent or threaten us further. Last week, someone cloned one of our WEB ADDRESSES using libelous terms in the registration, and one of the Suspected WACKENHUT hackers then posted it to millions of Web Users in an effort to further harass ACC and supress people publicizing about us. The Internic transferred the fraudulent registration to our control, but has yet to change its defamatory content, despite our legal protests. This could get very ugly, if ACC has to take further strong legal action and could ROCK the Internet."

American Computer is located at "http://american-computer.com" on the Internet. Its products include advanced PCs, Laptops, Supercomputers and Web Servers. Its VALKYRIE series supercomputer, starting at only $350,000 is one the lowest cost Supercomputer available in the world, and its products are notable in that they are accompanied generally by a 5 Year Warranty and optional on-site service. ACC also provides UNLIMITED TECHNICAL SUPPORT with its products at no extra charge.

Contact: Jim Peterson
American Computer Company
6 Commerce Drive
Cranford, NJ 07016
(908) 272-3330
email: [email protected]

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Originally posted by Kailya This is a silly name for a thread... specially since it's in the USA-NYC Local Scene Info.... name would have been more appropriate in the Chill Out Room...

That's why we've been asking for a new PPR / Off Topic Thread!

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Originally posted by Kailya This is a silly name for a thread... specially since it's in the USA-NYC Local Scene Info.... name would have been more appropriate in the Chill Out Room...

I know but it's a thread for us, and it would be a huge flame war in the chillout room because of (a few) people from other countries.

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