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Posted by daffodil on Oct-08-2003 01:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Echo of Silence
Could he have said, "Internet slang has effectuated a change in modern language?"


effectuated is one of the not-real words people have invented to make themselves sound smarter, like utilize. effect, instead of effectuated, means the same thing and keeps you from sounding pompous and windy. utilize is an overblown word for use.

concise writing makes you sound so much more intelligent. as a rule, the easier something is to read and understand, the harder it was to write.


Posted by Nosmo on Oct-08-2003 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
effectuated is one of the not-real words people have invented to make themselves sound smarter, like utilize.


Nope. Effectuated is a real word. Here's what Merriam-Webster had to say:

quote:

One entry found for effectuate.


Main Entry: ef�fec�tu�ate
Pronunciation: i-'fek-ch&-"wAt
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -at�ed; -at�ing


You are absolutely right about the verb form of "Effect". That is a very fine distinction between that and the verb form of Affect and I was always taught to just use Effect as a noun for that reason. Kudos to you .


Posted by TrAnCeAkI on Oct-08-2003 02:10:

rofl its true!!!! but i read em as words lol like the rofl!!! i say raweful!!!!! lolololololl i say lol alot too omg I CANT SPEAKEDIT ENGLISH NO MORE!!!!!!


Posted by mndeg on Oct-08-2003 02:53:

when i was in california i heard this guy say LOL (lowl) rhymes with bowl, he was also gay literally


Posted by daffodil on Oct-08-2003 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Nosmo
Nope. Effectuated is a real word. Here's what Merriam-Webster had to say:


oh, i don't doubt that it's a dictionary word, but so is "************."

quote:
You are absolutely right about the verb form of "Effect". That is a very fine distinction between that and the verb form of Affect and I was always taught to just use Effect as a noun for that reason. Kudos to you .


i wish i could take credit for that explanation! thanks for the kudos -- this kind of nonsense is my life and passion, commonly known as journalism i think i know more esoteric grammar and usages than 99.9% of americans (at least).


Posted by Nosmo on Oct-08-2003 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
oh, i don't doubt that it's a dictionary word, but so is "************."


So what's wrong with "************" and "utilize," again?


Posted by daffodil on Oct-08-2003 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Nosmo
So what's wrong with "************" and "utilize," again?


people use ************ to mean regardless. but the construction of the word creates a double negative. logically, using the rules of prefixes and suffixes, "ir-" and "-less" create a double negative and should cancel each other out. by rules of english grammar, the word should mean the opposite of what it does. it's on the same intelligence (and logic) level as terms such as, "ain't no" and "don't nobody."

utilize is using two extra syllables and four extra letter to sound like a pompous windbag when you're really just trying to say, "use." can you really tell me that "utilize" and "use" have different meanings or even shades of meaning?

yes, i'm fully aware that i'm a language snob. there's no need to tell me


Posted by Nosmo on Oct-08-2003 03:24:

quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
people use ************ to mean regardless. but the construction of the word creates a double negative. logically, using the rules of prefixes and suffixes, "ir-" and "-less" create a double negative and should cancel each other out. by rules of english grammar, the word should mean the opposite of what it does. it's on the same intelligence (and logic) level as terms such as, "ain't no" and "don't nobody."

utilize is using two extra syllables and four extra letter to sound like a pompous windbag when you're really just trying to say, "use." can you really tell me that "utilize" and "use" have different meanings or even shades of meaning?

yes, i'm fully aware that i'm a language snob. there's no need to tell me



That makes perfect sense to me. I don't think you're a snob at all.


Posted by daffodil on Oct-08-2003 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Nosmo
That makes perfect sense to me. I don't think you're a snob at all.


language snob, not people snob. there are lots of words that just aren't good enough for me


Posted by Nosmo on Oct-08-2003 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
language snob, not people snob. there are lots of words that just aren't good enough for me



That's what I meant--you're not a language snob. I totally think you're a people snob.






Posted by Aya Brea on Oct-08-2003 03:55:

quote:
Originally posted by EriK_V
what does OMGHI2U mean??


oh my god hi to you

hrhr


Posted by BTG on Oct-08-2003 04:43:

Somtimes i talk like i'm typing when i'm lit, but not like "lol, gg n00b" but I talk like a cave man,


Posted by Trancention on Oct-08-2003 04:55:

u�til�ize ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ytl-z)
tr.v. u�til�ized, u�til�iz�ing, u�til�iz�es
To put to use, especially to find a profitable or practical use for.


Usage Note: A number of critics have remarked that utilize is an unnecessary substitute for use. It is true that many occurrences of utilize could be replaced by use with no loss to anything but pretentiousness, for example, in sentences such as They utilized questionable methods in their analysis or We hope that many commuters will continue to utilize mass transit after the bridge has reopened. But utilize can mean �to find a profitable or practical use for.� Thus the sentence The teachers were unable to use the new computers might mean only that the teachers were unable to operate the computers, whereas The teachers were unable to utilize the new computers suggests that the teachers could not find ways to employ the computers in instruction.

That is how I always thought to use it, or should I say utilize the correct useage. (If I just used it wrong, then I need to brush up on my grammar)


Posted by daffodil on Oct-08-2003 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancention
u�til�ize ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ytl-z)
tr.v. u�til�ized, u�til�iz�ing, u�til�iz�es
To put to use, especially to find a profitable or practical use for.


Usage Note: A number of critics have remarked that utilize is an unnecessary substitute for use. It is true that many occurrences of utilize could be replaced by use with no loss to anything but pretentiousness, for example, in sentences such as They utilized questionable methods in their analysis or We hope that many commuters will continue to utilize mass transit after the bridge has reopened. But utilize can mean �to find a profitable or practical use for.� Thus the sentence The teachers were unable to use the new computers might mean only that the teachers were unable to operate the computers, whereas The teachers were unable to utilize the new computers suggests that the teachers could not find ways to employ the computers in instruction.

That is how I always thought to use it, or should I say utilize the correct useage. (If I just used it wrong, then I need to brush up on my grammar)


splendid! where did you find that? i want to forward it to one of my professors


Posted by Trancention on Oct-08-2003 05:16:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=utilize


Posted by 44htz on Oct-08-2003 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
If I ever witnessed someone using any one of these internet slang terms in everyday conversation I'd probably punch them.




but they would prolly duck out of the way and then knee you in the nads!


Posted by 44htz on Oct-08-2003 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
Somtimes i talk like i'm typing when i'm lit, but not like "lol, gg n00b" but I talk like a cave man,




dude with regards to *Song I'm working on ATM* don't worry we all have to start somewhere. Keep working on it. There's hope!


Posted by UWM on Oct-08-2003 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by EriK_V
what does OMGHI2U mean??


Best online acronym of all time.

I think at least one time in my life, if someone offers to show me some photographs they took, I will yell out 'Pics or STFU!'


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