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Originally posted by daffodil i can't believe someone else knows that!

OK, no offense to daffodil or boomer (or to anyone else for that matter), but shouldn't that difference be logical? Unless you aren't familiar with the common use of those words, you should notice that "between" has a totally different feel than "among" does.

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Originally posted by DasBrotBesser OK, no offense to daffodil or boomer (or to anyone else for that matter), but shouldn't that difference be logical? Unless you aren't familiar with the common use of those words, you should notice that "between" has a totally different feel than "among" does.

yeah, i know. it is logical. most of grammar and syntax is logical, but people get into speaking habits and throw logic out the window. look at ************

btw, that word is my whipping boy.

Yeah it would seem that between and among limit you to only use them properly, but it is the same with any other word. too and to, seem logical if you know what they mean. there and their, seems extremely logical, but people still confuse them.

Hell I used the two terms interchangeably until recently, so I don't think it is too much common sense.

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Originally posted by netw3rkd heh stop worring about how stupid people talk

How ironic.

Anyway, is it just me or do people who don't speak English as their first language actually type better than people who don't?

Everyone does typos now and then but I'd say most people just do them because they can't be bothered.
Which is kind of disturbing.

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Originally posted by Emil OMGGGG!!! I love these threads. I hate it when people don't put capital letters after a period, or don't use a capital I. Emil

i dont see why people give a shit about such things. its not a formal report or anything for fuck sake.


mr mystery: probs coz when non english get taught how to speak another laguage you get it hammered into you all the rules so you do it right.

for example if i wrote in german i would put capitals on the nouns but im not sure most germans could be arsed with that?

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Originally posted by DasBrotBesser people who type daffy instead of daffodil people who say Calvin & Hobbes isn't the best comic ever

I say daff. "Daffy" makes me think of a certain Merry Melodies character...and she does not remind me of him.

I think Groo the Wanderer is the best comic ever.

And since this is a "grammar" rant thread:

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Originally posted by Boomer187 heres one to think about, between compares only 2 things, you use among when there is more than 2. and of course everything everyone before me said....

"Here's one to think about : between compares only two things. You use among when there are more than two"

Grammar policed that.

"And, of course, everything everyone before me said...."

That too.

Sorry, I could not resist since daff talked about bein a nazi and quoted it with no comment

MrS

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Originally posted by Ste for example if i wrote in german i would put capitals on the nouns but im not sure most germans could be arsed with that?

depends how lazy i feel

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Originally posted by daffodil yeah, i know. it is logical. most of grammar and syntax is logical, but people get into speaking habits and throw logic out the window. look at ************ btw, that word is my whipping boy.

Despite it not making sense, ************ is still a valid word ... I reserve the right to use it

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel I say daff. "Daffy" makes me think of a certain Merry Melodies character...and she does not remind me of him. I think Groo the Wanderer is the best comic ever. And since this is a "grammar" rant thread: "Here's one to think about : between compares only two things. You use among when there are more than two" Grammar policed that. "And, of course, everything everyone before me said...." That too. Sorry, I could not resist since daff talked about bein a nazi and quoted it with no comment MrS

wtf is bein, are you from the south :P

couldn't resist. and I really do suck at my is and are usage. Good thing I am not getting graded on my posts here or I wouldn't be allowed to post here. God forbid I get out my english 396 notes....eeewwww.

I think it is quite stupid when native English speaker flame non-native English speakers when they make a grammar mistake.
And they feel very superior about it. It's just stupid in my opinion.

^^so true^^

ESL is nothing to flame.

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Originally posted by occrider Despite it not making sense, ************ is still a valid word ... I reserve the right to use it

i really thought more of you! sorry you'll be saying, "don't nobody know what i'm talking about." just because enough people say it for it to be in the dictionary does not make it valid and i'm sticking to that.

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Originally posted by daffodil i really thought more of you! sorry you'll be saying, "don't nobody know what i'm talking about." just because enough people say it for it to be in the dictionary does not make it valid and i'm sticking to that.

It's no different from other illogical affixes like debone and unravel. However, those are quite commonly accepted as correct usages of words. And this isn't even getting into the mass multitudes of oxymoronic phrases that are widely accepted in language! So why the discriminatory stance against ************??? Just because it only appeared in the early 20th century? Face it, irrespective and regardless were MEANT to be together. A match made in linguistic heaven!

I dont really care about spelling, except using d instead of th like dis, dat, da instead of the etc.
People saying 'could of' because when they hear people saying couldve they think it means of is a bit annoying. It means have
And americans saying 'i could care less'. Its couldNT care less. Think about what it means...

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Originally posted by Essential1 i can't believe how many grown adults don't know the difference between there and their!

redundancy is my pet peeve...

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Originally posted by occrider It's no different from other illogical affixes like debone and unravel. However, those are quite commonly accepted as correct usages of words. And this isn't even getting into the mass multitudes of oxymoronic phrases that are widely accepted in language! So why the discriminatory stance against ************??? Just because it only appeared in the early 20th century? Face it, irrespective and regardless were MEANT to be together. A match made in linguistic heaven!

my beef with "************" is this (as posted in the internet slang thread):

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people use ************ to mean regardless. but the construction of the word creates a double negative. logically, using the rules of prefixes and suffixes, "ir-" and "-less" create a double negative and should cancel each other out. by rules of english grammar, the word should mean the opposite of what it does. it's on the same intelligence (and logic) level as terms such as, "ain't no" and "don't nobody."

invented words don't bother me. words that mean the opposite of what their construction indicates does. that term was created and perpetuated by ignorance and stupidity and i'll never change my opinion of that. and just because a word or usage is generally accepted by the population means nothing to me. the general population can't locate france on a map.

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Originally posted by daffodil my beef with "************" is this (as posted in the internet slang thread): invented words don't bother me. words that mean the opposite of what their construction indicates does. that term was created and perpetuated by ignorance and stupidity and i'll never change my opinion of that. and just because a word or usage is generally accepted by the population means nothing to me. the general population can't locate france on a map.

It is a word that sounds cool though...I just don't use it cause I forget how to spell it properly.

I think the word means that the object lacks 'irregard' which I think is esperanto for "fancy underwear"

MrS

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Originally posted by daffodil my beef with "************" is this (as posted in the internet slang thread): invented words don't bother me. words that mean the opposite of what their construction indicates does. that term was created and perpetuated by ignorance and stupidity and i'll never change my opinion of that. and just because a word or usage is generally accepted by the population means nothing to me. the general population can't locate france on a map.

like you, i don't necessarily have beef with neologisms as much as I do with jargon. jargon, in all of its redundant and obfuscatory forms, is the chief culprit in the poisoning of the english language...

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Originally posted by daffodil my beef with "************" is this (as posted in the internet slang thread): invented words don't bother me. words that mean the opposite of what their construction indicates does. that term was created and perpetuated by ignorance and stupidity and i'll never change my opinion of that. and just because a word or usage is generally accepted by the population means nothing to me. the general population can't locate france on a map.

************ , you're fighting a losing battle if you're trying to stop the bastardization and misuse of the English language.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/indepth/words/static_style.html

I champion the illogical nonsensicalness of the English language! If we all understand each other each other perfectly, and work together, God will smite us tower of babel style for sure!

God at work:



Therefore I stand by my stance.

Edit: Damned image tags!!!

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Originally posted by occrider Therefore I stand by my stance.

your cromulence embiggens us all my friend

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Originally posted by Konijn Island your cromulence embiggens us all my friend

Yes well my noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.

Don't you try to out simpsons me!

PS: It was cromulent!

i'm not trying to stop the bastardization of the english language, i'm just refusing to participate in the wild orgy.

























... for once

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Originally posted by daffodil i'm not trying to stop the bastardization of the english language, i'm just refusing to participate in the wild orgy. ... for once

What if we get you nice and drunk? Will you orgy with us then????

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Originally posted by occrider What if we get you nice and drunk? Will you orgy with us then????

it's always possible. for all my raging about grammar, you'd laugh if you heard me talk on a typical day. i'm one of those people who routinely screw up syntax, word order and just mumble in general on some days. that's when i'm around my friends though and talking for the sake of talking.

get me drunk and it's all over. you know how some people get blurred vision when they're drunk? i lose my hearing, so i have no idea what's going on half that time

does anyone know the difference between a podium and a lectern?

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Originally posted by daffodil it's always possible. for all my raging about grammar, you'd laugh if you heard me talk on a typical day. i'm one of those people who routinely screw up syntax, word order and just mumble in general on some days. that's when i'm around my friends though and talking for the sake of talking. get me drunk and it's all over. you know how some people get blurred vision when they're drunk? i lose my hearing, so i have no idea what's going on half that time does anyone know the difference between a podium and a lectern?

Don't worry, I'll get you nice and lushy. Then we'll have all sorts of fun bastardizing. Podium is the raised platform ... lectern is the thing you stand behind. Right?

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