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Posted by LiveTheDream on Oct-15-2003 14:52:

I agree with most of what you sead Dj O'Callaghan, but there are one or two things ad change, like with army ad bring back national service. It gives 19 to 21 year olds more suspect for people and property around them. and it also makes the population fitter. Alot of people would disagree but alot of the youth problems in England is dew to the fact that they can get away with it. I think its better then boot camp as people will not look down at them when there trying to get a job. And coming from a bad school I know at first hand how much kids can get away with and this has to be stop, ad also bring back the cain, yes it is hash but as long as you do what you are told and get on with your work you dont need to werry about it.

Health Service - There are many problems with the health service, and one of them is not having enough nursing homes, alot of old people are stuck in hosptals that dont need to be there, this drains resorses for people who do need to be there. I also would reduse paper work, which would free alot of time for doctors and nerses.

Education - I would exstend school time for one hour a day for PE and make it that everyone has to do PE for an hour aday. I realy dont like the way people are getting like the Americans, there getting fatter and its starting to happen in england. I would also reduse paper work for teachers, becoue i have seen the amount of paperwork there have and its uncalled for.

I would also ban Macdonalds from operating in england, and any takeaway with food like they`s, Its garbige and totaly unhealthy, alot of people dont know whats in that food, i know i would not tuch it, this also would fit into my plains to make the population a fitter one.

I would also legalize cannabis, this stuff is less hamfull then smoking.

Public Transport i agree with you but ad also make it law for big companyers that are transporting goods from one town/city to anther use trains instead of lorries, there also will have the goods transported by goverment lorries from the trainstation to anyware in the town/city. This will reduse alot of traffic, and I would make the buses public agein as there have gone down hill as you sead, this way the buses will be alot cheeper and incurage people to use them agein.

Crime - ad get it back to the old days where every street had a policeman walk down it at lest once a day, make it a local man who knows the people in the area, the main problem is that the police dont know whats going in on day to day in any area, the police dont know that people, we have to get the police working with the people as much as posible, like you sead with the Black & Asian communities. I dont belive in my local police forse, there dont understand whats going on have the time. We need to get the people to belive that the police are working with them and not agenst them.


Thats my 2 pence warth.


Posted by Ste on Oct-15-2003 15:52:

yeh we thought about bringing back the cain (me and harry)

it makes sense, you get some total idiot reprobate kids who do fuck all and the teachers can do jack, if the teacher jsut touches them they could get sacked, the parents of these kids dont give a shit either, probably the same level of scummishness.

there should be a set of guidelines put in law that makes caining legal in certain situations, coz if we jsut brought back caning kids would get caned left right and centre if they forgot a bit of homework or strict schools which wanted high grades (like harriets last school ) would cane any kid that got a B. it should be set for the complete idiot future smackhead doley kids to get them in line! fucking ****s!

also there should be police powers simialr to the drunk and disorderly rule where you can take in sum1 for the night if there being drunk n disorderly, however replace that behavior with kids being thretening and stuff to people and generally being total ****s. not jsut kids for example, playing football on a no ball games place or whatever, kids who go around breaking people windows and shit in inner cities like that, if they are suspected they should be locked up for the night!


i think it definatly is the case now that the "scum" as it were is getting more and more worse and out of control and it needs to targeted harcore discapline to sort the little shits out!


and oh yeh, dont get me started on the liscencing & legalisation of certain substances


Posted by Dave_Masters on Oct-15-2003 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste


, kids who go around breaking people windows and shit in inner cities like that, if they are suspected they should be locked up for the night!


Erm i believe this is in place... lol

When i was 16.. i went to teh pub for the first time... got fuckin hammered out of my face... i was angry about summin fuck knows what and smashed a window... i then faced 12 hours in a cell, with complete nutters next door screaming and shouting all night... i certainly will never conduct any vandalism again lol



Posted by LiveTheDream on Oct-15-2003 16:14:

I was thinking about bring back the Cat and 9 tails, but that is going abit exstream?


Posted by TiestoFanMatt on Oct-15-2003 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan

Schools - So many teachers complain about the money they get paid, well I would tell them to like it or fucking lump it they get nice long holidays. With their wages I think it should depend on pass rates or if they work at a school in very nasty deprived area then their entitled to get given more money.

Education - I would give people a choice carry on education untill 18 or leave and work at 16. Aswell as A levels I would have a vast ammount of NVQs & trades etc, so people can do trades at school in an apprenticeship, or train to get a certain skill for a certain job aswell, I think this will improve business as a whole as you will have trained workers and most of it mean better employment opportunities for young people.


On the aspect of payment, this comes about from people who live in big cities where living costs are extremely high. If you work in london, the living costs are really attrocious. e.g. my house, 5 bed detatched is worth �160,000, in London ud be looking at allot more than that. In Putney, my Auntie lives there in a one bedroom flat. She, her husband and her daughter all live there and their house is worth �130,000. If you are a teacher and for e.g. your earning �25,000 a year after tax, its a standardised pay throughout of england (until recently). WHen the pay of teachers was addressed it was by the union, and all the teachers supported it because it was mainly the teachers in london could hardly survive on the pay.

Aso, i want to become a teacher, and i have to say that it is fucking hard work. Yes you get like 5 weeks off during the summer, and xmas and easter. But the days, they should consist of like 8-5/6 days. DUring the holidays u are marking books allot. You have to meet target etc... my mum does about 1 and a half hour marking every night. she gets home usually at 6, and leaves in the morning at half 7. Judging pay by pass rates is a very risky road. why? well what will happen with the potential students getting pushed higher? they wont because the able children will be left at a average stage, and the lower ability will be helped as much as possible. I would agree thought that there are allot of shit teachers around who can be bone idol, just like most jobs.

After G.C.S.E's, (your 16) you can leave and get a job. NVQ's and GNVQ's are available through colleges and sixth forms. If the turnout for the lessons is not good, i.e only 2 people want to do that programme, then it would be dropped. There were though various GNVQ's and NVQ's as well as A-levels at my old school.


Posted by Streakfury on Oct-15-2003 17:04:

Is it true that you only need �500 and two people to vote for you and you can start your own party?? We should start a UKTA Party and rule the country, they'd get my vote. Any takers on who wants to be PM?? Sign below:




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Posted by dj_mdma on Oct-15-2003 17:09:

that is true with the teachers. A lot of my mums colleagues are not earning enough to put down mortages and such and are renting rooms and stuff. Living costs in london are relatively high.

When my family moved from Teddington to Twickenham (not too far) the house we bought was worth �175,000 just over 3 years ago. After a few modifications (conservetory, driveway and did the kitchen and bathroom), its now worth �260,000. Many more houses in the same street are up for sale at around the same price. But many aren't geting sold, cos even though these houses are bottom end of the market (i.e. perfect for first time professional buyers) people still can't afford it!

And matt, an 5 bedroom detached house in my area is worth about 1.25 million, and in Richmond its about 2 million


Posted by TiestoFanMatt on Oct-15-2003 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
And matt, an 5 bedroom detached house in my area is worth about 1.25 million, and in Richmond its about 2 million



Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Oct-15-2003 23:23:

Nah with the teachers thing you guys are obviously bias about it cos you've got family members and friends etc who teach and I'm not getting at you for it, thats just thats the fucking score with me on it, as no one in my family has anything to deal with teachers neither do my friends.

But you lads Lam & Tiestofan your talking about London. I thought people would get higher wages for working in London? Higher wages for London etc as aye it is an expensive place to live but I think with elsewhere it should go on the system I mentioned.

With London prices shit I don't have a clue why everything is so fucking expensive. Like yeah its obviously going to be the most popular place to move to and live, however the prices compared to other cities you can add about �100,000. Fucking mental shite.

Aye Ste I agree, I think caining could potentially work aswell.

Livethedream I think with the boot camp idea it will depend on the person, cos you couldn't really trust some feral person with no order etc to sit there suddenely getting shouted at and given guns, however I think it will be good for the silly people who get into trouble once or twice the tag alongs etc.

I'm totally with your view on PE. I think we're quite lucky in a way British people are quite unhealthy with eating etc and health but their fit at the same time, but there is not a lot of obese people which is good.

Another thing I forgot to add in my list. I would love to see a massive crack down in companies and corperations diverting their work to foreign countries to cost cut. I heard BT were sending most their call centre operations to FUCKING INDIA!!!!! No wonder I can't understand the bastards when they ring me lol or I ring them, I think that is utterly terrible and I was quite digusted the Name is British Telecom thus it should remain in Britain! I heard their trained by watching Eastenders and fucking Cornation street to understand British culture like WTF! its make believe.

But on a more serious note. A lot of people lose their jobs every year because of operations being moved to Asia and I say it must stop people can't go on losing their jobs as soon, we'll start losing certain industries and the job market will look bleak for future generations.


Posted by DjDeComp on Oct-15-2003 23:25:

It's cool that I can vote in a federal election even if I'm out of the country


Posted by Spin Doctor on Oct-16-2003 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
Is it true that you only need �500 and two people to vote for you and you can start your own party??


Yes, but we need to get a certain percentage of the votes before we get out �500 pounds back. You can start with as few/many people in the party as you want though.


Posted by chojin on Oct-16-2003 08:22:

Wouldnt care, and wouldnt bother voting. dont think i can anyway at 18 :/ anywy, politics is beyond me.


Posted by Ste on Oct-16-2003 09:33:

quote:
Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt
e.g. my house, 5 bed detatched is worth �160,000,



woah tahts wierd, it would be about the same price up where i live in darlington maybe even more!

harriet lives jsut near london and her house is 300k 4 bed not particularly new or amazing or anything!


Posted by Ste on Oct-16-2003 09:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Dave_Masters

Erm i believe this is in place... lol

When i was 16.. i went to teh pub for the first time... got fuckin hammered out of my face... i was angry about summin fuck knows what and smashed a window... i then faced 12 hours in a cell, with complete nutters next door screaming and shouting all night... i certainly will never conduct any vandalism again lol





nah they can only do it to kids if theyve already been taken in and put on some "watch out for these little shits" list


Posted by tu_face on Oct-17-2003 11:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
nah they can only do it to kids if theyve already been taken in and put on some "watch out for these little shits" list


unless u live in leeds.

the new anti-social behaviour bill will be making sure that similar rules get put into place in all major cities.


Posted by Spin Doctor on Oct-18-2003 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by chojin
Wouldnt care, and wouldnt bother voting. dont think i can anyway at 18 :/ anywy, politics is beyond me.


18 is the age of majority � you can vote.


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