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I think you're confusing me with the guy who said it couldn't be done in Reason. I have never even seen Reason used, let aloned used it myself, so I feel no need to be spouting anything Reason-related off. I think my tip about external processing was as non-specific as you can possibly get, and would equally apply to anyone using Buzz, Fruity, Reason or anything else. There's no need to be defensive.

Sorry. It was "thecYrus" i should have quoted.
And yes, i'll be defensive against ignorance anytime

Cheers.

Gamemaster 2003 synth is EASILY recreated with the Spectrasonics Atmosphere.

Take the Synth Bass -> Super Moog Bass preset, and bring Bank A (Hi Moog 3OSC Wide) down an octave. Tweak the cutoffs a little bit and you get the EXACT sound.

the Spectrasonics Atmosphere, is it VST or something like that to use in Fruity Loops? Is it free or something that needs lots of money...

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Originally posted by Joi Lamusic the Spectrasonics Atmosphere, is it VST or something like that to use in Fruity Loops? Is it free or something that needs lots of money...

How the heck are you not able to find out this by yourself ?
IMHO you dont not need it either, if you dont know this.

Cheers

anyone know how i could recreate the synth out of ferry corsten - punk...i've remixed it but couldnt get the synth right

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Originally posted by dj-sean As a general tip, don't do your kicks, percs, whooshes and other similar effects in real time; process them externally as much as you can and import them as samples.

care to explain why you think this is the best thing to do?

come on, no1 knows how to make the Micro de govia sound? of Things that matter(the lead and pad)

I use reason.

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Originally posted by azior care to explain why you think this is the best thing to do?

I guess it's a matter of taste more than anything, but especially for my kicks I like to get them sounding the way I want them to sound before throwing them into the mix. For whooshes and other effects I usually process them externally until I get the sound I'm after, and then throw them through some extra delay in the mix to let them sit a bit better.

To all the pepole who I've promised tutorials for, I promise I'll get them done after exams. I really need to pass my courses this semester =P

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I really need to pass my courses this semester =P

Definitely more important than tutorials man. Good luck with those exams.

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Originally posted by Cryogenic How the heck are you not able to find out this by yourself ? IMHO you dont not need it either, if you dont know this. Cheers

Sorry...But I didn't get if it is vst that can be used with Fruity Sorry... But I hope that little out burst made U feel better Cryogenic

So... I still don't know if this thing is vst and can be used by Fruity...

It's a VST instrument that can be used with fruity. It costs about 400 USD retail, but you can probably find it cheaper.

hey dj-sean do you know how to recreate the synth from ferrc corsten - punk

I'll take a stab at that.
I can see Pro-53 or Absynth doing that fairly easily.
Get back to you on that one.

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Originally posted by Joi Lamusic Sorry...But I didn't get if it is vst that can be used with Fruity Sorry... But I hope that little out burst made U feel better Cryogenic So... I still don't know if this thing is vst and can be used by Fruity...

Im just saying that you have not put any effort in trying to find out yourself, and you're waisting other peoples time, and you contrtbute to make this forum abandonware.

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Originally posted by Mc-SnOe hey dj-sean do you know how to recreate the synth from ferrc corsten - punk

Try a detuned saw thru a lp-filter (max freq. a tad res.) and crank up portamento. Might want to add a bit treble with eq.

I think it also has a very high rate vibrato, altho with a subtle amount of pitch.

What software are you using ?
I can post a Reason file if anyone want.

Cheers.

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Originally posted by Cryogenic Try a detuned saw thru a lp-filter (max freq. a tad res.) and crank up portamento. Might want to add a bit treble with eq. I think it also has a very high rate vibrato, altho with a subtle amount of pitch. What software are you using ? I can post a Reason file if anyone want. Cheers.

Reason file??? Yeah, me wants...

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Originally posted by Cryogenic Im just saying that you have not put any effort in trying to find out yourself, and you're waisting other peoples time, and you contrtbute to make this forum abandonware.

The point of a forum is to ask questions, if reading it is wasting your time, then don't.

es

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Originally posted by Vert The point of a forum is to ask questions, if reading it is wasting your time, then don't. es

Oh, is that what a forum is about. I must be missing sumtin.
And scavaging thru all the crap posts wastes my time, yes.
Obviously wastes your time too.

love love love

please stop flaming guys

anyway i had a question: do you concider it normally to have a build-up of 3 minutes, a short break of 30 secs, then the main melodie 1.5 minutes, and a build-down of 1.5 minutes? (3 / .5 / 1.5 / 1.5)
so basicaly the main melodie is in the song for 2 minutes, and the building up is more than 4 minutes... don't know if that is okay?

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Originally posted by Cryogenic Oh, is that what a forum is about. I must be missing sumtin. And scavaging thru all the crap posts wastes my time, yes. Obviously wastes your time too.

Well you must be here to flame then, because that is what vast ammount of your posts consist of. Stop having jiihads against the newbies with newbie questions and people you think might have warez. It's that simple.

es

Re: love love love

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Originally posted by azior please stop flaming guys anyway i had a question: do you concider it normally to have a build-up of 3 minutes, a short break of 30 secs, then the main melodie 1.5 minutes, and a build-down of 1.5 minutes? (3 / .5 / 1.5 / 1.5) so basicaly the main melodie is in the song for 2 minutes, and the building up is more than 4 minutes... don't know if that is okay?

That sounds like a pretty good formula to work with. There are of course numerous other ones too, hehe. I used to be all about long breakdowns/buildups, but they're just not that effective on the dancefloor unless you've created some huge anthem.

Yah Sean is right with that one.
Generally the rule of thumb with melodies is, after 8 repetitions, it starts to boor the listener. So your climax and such will depend on the length of your riff. I wouldnt go much past 8 bars.

And personally i think the days of long builds are over. More and more you hear more intelligent ways to bring in the lead. It use to be just kill the bass and percs for a while, do a long ass snare roll with lots of crashes.

It's all about variety when it comes to building up your song... if every tune you make has the same general form, they will have a feel of "sameness" even if everything else is different. But when it comes down to it, there is a lot of sameness going around. I'd say for melodic trance or more progressive songs your 3/.5/1.5/1.5 works but for hard trance or more dance-floor oriented tunes you should waste no time getting to the lead. Or just be like Ferry Corsten and don't even bother with any sort of buildup.

Anyone knows how to create the synth Mauro Picotto uses in New Time, New Place? Here's a sample:

Sample

I know how to create the warble sound in the synth, but mine just sounds so thin and normal. Any help is appreciated.

ps: great tune this is!!!

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