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Posted by astroboy on Nov-04-2003 07:32:

Sure the bear can bite and claw... but only anything stupid enough to let itself get clawed. People who have grown up around bears aren't scared of tehm at all and can be confident around them as long as they have a knife handy, for emergencies. Scientists pick fleas off gorillas born in captivity, and used to human presence. The dude who trained the bears for "Doctor Dolittle" keeps several Grizzlies and wrestles with them daily.

I'm not saying that the gorilla will kill the bear... I'm saying it won't sustain any damage as the bear's attacks are too clumsy and predictable. However, it may cause some damage to the bear as it can gouge and bite too... most pobably neither would die in the fight but the bear would sustain more damage.


Posted by occrider on Nov-04-2003 07:38:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Sure the bear can bite and claw... but only anything stupid enough to let itself get clawed. People who have grown up around bears aren't scared of tehm at all and can be confident around them as long as they have a knife handy, for emergencies. Scientists pick fleas off gorillas born in captivity, and used to human presence. The dude who trained the bears for "Doctor Dolittle" keeps several Grizzlies and wrestles with them daily.

I'm not saying that the gorilla will kill the bear... I'm saying it won't sustain any damage as the bear's attacks are too clumsy and predictable. However, it may cause some damage to the bear as it can gouge and bite too... most pobably neither would die in the fight but the bear would sustain more damage.


What kind of damages? And how would the gorilla be able to bite the bear without getting a death clamp on its neck/a torn belly from 4 inch claws? You're telling me a bear can catch a fish from a river yet cannot match the speed of a gorilla?

We are the smartest beings on the planet so therefore we should technically be able to out-kung fu a bear?


Posted by occrider on Nov-04-2003 07:40:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
when i think of bears i think of yogi bear licking on a honey comb and then gettin his clumsy goofy ass chased by a swarm of bees..


And what would the gorilla do against bees? EVERYTHING runs from bess. Nature 101 ...


Posted by PhloTron on Nov-04-2003 08:10:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
EVERYTHING runs from bess. Nature 101 ...


JOHN WEST!!!! makes his living running at bears...not away...

hehe...i love this ad


Posted by astroboy on Nov-04-2003 08:14:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
We are the smartest beings on the planet so therefore we should technically be able to out-kung fu a bear?


Don't know how true this is but i recall reading somewhere that native american kids used to play with bears, by seeing who could slap it in the face. Because they spent time watching the bears hunt, they could predict is behaviour. Same principle that allows Steve Irwin catch extremely venomous snakes and huge crocodiles that could normally take down a large bull. These animals have no problem-solving ability and can't alter their attacks.


Posted by montie on Nov-04-2003 08:34:

my vote goes the the grizzly. silverback apes can be quite vicious, but grizzlies got them claws and nasty teeth and are super fast. they can outrun any human and tear them apart.
the bear can give the ape the good ole one two with its massive claws and tear that ape a new asshole.





**by the way, this thread rocks!


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-04-2003 16:03:

i think in actuality the gorilla has a big shlong than the bear and will slap it in the face and knock yogi unconscious


Posted by Floorfiller on Nov-04-2003 16:18:

this is stupid. lets settle this. lets raise enough money to buy a bear and a gorilla and find out


Posted by gOOD-tRiP on Nov-04-2003 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
this is stupid. lets settle this. lets raise enough money to buy a bear and a gorilla and find out


why dont we just drop a grizzly onto a silverback while its having sex? or better yet see what happens when the silverback comes home to see his mate cheating on him with the grizzly? haha


on a serious note. although i would have dibs on the grizzly, silverback has serious anger management issues and would be more agressive then the bear.


Posted by blazed it on Nov-04-2003 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
i think in actuality the gorilla has a big shlong than the bear and will slap it in the face and knock yogi unconscious


actually gorillas have small penises and balls, because they do not have other males competing with them to impregnate females. there is usually that one big dominant silverback male that gets all the females, so their sperm does not face much competition. unlike say chimps for example as mutilple chimps mate with the female and there is competition for whose sperm impregnates the female first.


Posted by dream_logic on Nov-04-2003 18:40:

Bear...........19
Gorilla.........10

(Only counting new votes)


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-24-2003 15:55:

damn... the grizzly would of lost to this fella


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../albino_gorilla


Posted by jinxed84 on Nov-24-2003 19:57:

Grizzly Bear.

ever seen what happens to a car when people leave food in it and a bear finds it. the bear rips the car apart, usually taking the doors off. and one swipe from a bear will remove a persons head i think so that wouldnt feel to good for a gorilla. given, silverbacks are big and nasty, but if the bear got anywhere near him(which is inevitable in a fight) he would swat him like a fly, then rip him to shreds. THWAP


Posted by Dr. Cfire on Nov-25-2003 04:44:

Bear all the way


Ursus arctos horribilis(Grizzly Bear)->"horrible Northern bear"

quote:
Bears possess enormous strength, regardless of species or size. The strength of a bear is difficult to measure, but observations of bears moving rocks, carrying animal carcasses, removing large logs from the side of a cabin, and digging cavernous holes are all indicative of enormous power. No animal of equal size is as powerful. A bear may kill a moose, elk, or deer by a single blow to the neck with a powerful foreleg, then lift the carcass in its mouth and carry it for great distances.



http://www.bowhunting.net/bearhunting.net/bear2.html

What you want to be really scared of is mountian lions. If you see the animal your probably okay, it's when you cant see them that your fucked.


Posted by Serp on Nov-25-2003 05:48:

bear why isnt this thread a POLL?


Posted by Turbonium on Nov-25-2003 05:50:

Man we should seriously put 2 in a boxing ring or whatever (I think it's been mentioned before in this thread).


Posted by j_spot on Nov-25-2003 05:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Cfire


What you want to be really scared of is mountian lions. If you see the animal your probably okay, it's when you cant see them that your fucked.


ya and Wolverines?
ever seen one in the wild?
I have

scared me shitless cuz it disapeared and I didnt know what to do


Posted by Z1D on Nov-25-2003 07:50:

There is a great website that explores interspecies "what if" scenarios.

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict13.html

Lets face it : Bears can weigh well over 1000 pounds and have claws up to 6 inches long. Bears have extremely strong forepaws due to the amount of digging they do, as well as an extremely hard skull. Cap that with speed that is almost unthinkable for an animal so clumsy looking (40mph). The gorilla wouldnt stand a chance.


Posted by 'mju:zik on Nov-25-2003 08:51:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
We are the smartest specimens ... how long would we last against either? Even with tools such as knives


i dont know man, "human tools" such as m16s would quiet the beast a bit.

as to the match up...

grizzly in an enclosed space...unless the gorilla gets on the bear's back. the grizzly would have a hard time romving a 800 pound gorilla from its back IMO.

in open terrain (especially jungle) I would think the gorilla would book it and wait until the bear slept or something to that end. maybe drop a boulder on it.


Posted by magicsushi on Nov-25-2003 12:58:

The Californians of the late 19th century staged well-documented pit fights with grizzlies and spanish bulls. The grizzlies, using their paw as a club, shattered the unfortunate bull's skull or shoulder bones so easily that the betting became poor.

Eventually, and at considerable cost, African lions were brought in to raise the stakes. The most fierce of the adult males was sent in whilst the grizzly was already waiting in the pits. The lion was known for bravely charging straight in and looked good for the money, but the grizzly killed a male lion almost as easily as he'd killed the bull.


er, I'm going with the grizzly


Posted by astroboy on Nov-25-2003 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by magicsushi
The Californians of the late 19th century staged well-documented pit fights with grizzlies and spanish bulls. The grizzlies, using their paw as a club, shattered the unfortunate bull's skull or shoulder bones so easily that the betting became poor.

Eventually, and at considerable cost, African lions were brought in to raise the stakes. The most fierce of the adult males was sent in whilst the grizzly was already waiting in the pits. The lion was known for bravely charging straight in and looked good for the money, but the grizzly killed a male lion almost as easily as he'd killed the bull.



In real life humans have faced both Bulls and Bears armed only with bladed weapons and come out alive... Mas Oyama apparently faced a bull unarmed, shattering its horns with his bare arms (apparently there is actual footage of this in existance, although it was later claimed by some that the bull was old and weak). Not sure if anyone has ever tried to face a silverback...


Posted by magicsushi on Nov-25-2003 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
In real life humans have faced both Bulls and Bears armed only with bladed weapons and come out alive... Mas Oyama apparently faced a bull unarmed, shattering its horns with his bare arms (apparently there is actual footage of this in existance, although it was later claimed by some that the bull was old and weak). Not sure if anyone has ever tried to face a silverback...


I understand your point, but regardless of the gorilla's intelligence and tactics, all it's going to take is one moment for the bear to get a good shot on the gorilla and it's all over. That's why I'd put my money on the bear


Posted by icedale on Nov-25-2003 13:42:

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Posted by smokeape on Nov-27-2003 01:36:


Here's to the bear lovers. Support your local apes. Haaa!
{{{smoke}}}


Posted by Shad0wmaster on Nov-27-2003 03:29:

the gorilla would get ownd


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