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Posted by djway on Nov-09-2003 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
hey i'm not biased...and how can Darey be justified as cheese...it's far beyond me.


his track selection was cheese. Everyone went knowing it was going to be cheese, so it was cool, bit it was defo cheese.

RE the track selection/crowd control Joy Kitikonti- Joyenergizer, and the 3-5 tracks around that where he BANGED it out, I wouldn't of called that good track selection or crowd control. Everyone I spoke to (all the TA's), said that he was lacking after the 1st hour, when he started banging it out. He lost the crowd. He got them back when he slowed it down again, for sure, but the fact he lost them in most of the TA/halcyon regular's eyes, makes it hard to say it was perfect (considering we are pretty up to speed with trance).

--djway

PS biased Matt Darey...GOD???


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-09-2003 07:21:

Oh well he can't please them all...BUT calling Matt Darey cheese is just depressing and nonsense , he is far from it.

If Matt Darey is cheese, please bring more.


Posted by djway on Nov-09-2003 07:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
Oh well he can't please them all...BUT calling Matt Darey cheese is just depressing and nonsense , he is far from it.

If Matt Darey is cheese, please bring more.


We all have different opnions on what is cheese/what is not, think that's the only resoloution we're going to get

--djway


Posted by djway on Nov-09-2003 08:03:

quote:
Originally posted by djway
We all have different opnions on what is cheese/what is not, think that's the only resoloution we're going to get

--djway


Not to say I didn't enjoy it, it was awsome 1st time I've heard Olmec Heads out in the club before

--djway


Posted by muli on Nov-09-2003 11:08:

i would consider him FAR from the likes of Armin, Ferry & Tiesto.


His mixing was tight, but his track selection was nothing special at all.

Anyone can get up there and bang out 2 hours of trance classics from 99 especially on CD!

Seeing guys like Armin is totally different, the present to us a heap of new tracks and take us on a journey starting with say proggy stuff and working his way through. Darey just played straight uplifting for 2.5hours and well he kinda lost me for a bit because i got bored. I prefer a dj to play a range of styles and present a journey set.

Im kinda over hearing all those old classics so i did get bored at stages, especially when he played a bit hard in the middle there.

I mean you cant honestly say that one of us djs odd TA here couldnt have played the exact same set, it was nothing special at all!

As i said to some others, it was a great set cause it was MATT DAREY, only he could really get away with that. If i played like that i would get bagged out!

anyways, thats my thoughts.

muli


Posted by djway on Nov-09-2003 11:13:

quote:
Originally posted by muli
i would consider him FAR from the likes of Armin, Ferry & Tiesto.


His mixing was tight, but his track selection was nothing special at all.

Anyone can get up there and bang out 2 hours of trance classics from 99 especially on CD!

Seeing guys like Armin is totally different, the present to us a heap of new tracks and take us on a journey starting with say proggy stuff and working his way through. Darey just played straight uplifting for 2.5hours and well he kinda lost me for a bit because i got bored. I prefer a dj to play a range of styles and present a journey set.

Im kinda over hearing all those old classics so i did get bored at stages, especially when he played a bit hard in the middle there.

I mean you cant honestly say that one of us djs odd TA here couldnt have played the exact same set, it was nothing special at all!

As i said to some others, it was a great set cause it was MATT DAREY, only he could really get away with that. If i played like that i would get bagged out!

anyways, thats my thoughts.

muli


How can you say that he played straight uplifting 4 2.5 hours, then say the played harder in the middle. He progressed to hardER trance and back again. That was his journey and range of style

That said, i know TOTALLY what you mean and agree with you.

--djway


Posted by muli on Nov-09-2003 11:17:

quote:
Originally posted by djway
How can you say that he played straight uplifting 4 2.5 hours, then say the played harder in the middle. He progressed to hardER trance and back again. That was his journey and range of style

That said, i know TOTALLY what you mean and agree with you.

--djway


you know what i mean! thats like saying he took us on a journey by playing 3 prog songs in the middle.

The set didnt build, it just stayed the same with a few bangin shitty old hard trance tracks in the middle.


Posted by bassaholix on Nov-09-2003 11:32:

quote:
Originally posted by waXology Westbam - wizards of sonic


OMG i luv this song... its f**n old school classic rave/happy track.. i think i got this sumwhere on CD

/me goes to look...

Dam sounds like it was a nice CLUBBY sorta night, with the cheese central been pumped by the bad speaker setup.. hope they fix it by the next time im able to make it /me sticks middle finga up to uni...

Hehehe

Anyways im out.. need to study ... boooo


Posted by pinkhelmet on Nov-09-2003 13:05:

well sounds like everyone enjoyed the nite

i was a bit upset at first since not many people came, really distracted me from having a great nite for the first hr or so coz i know the boys try so hard and r so passionate! maybe they need a marketing manager *-->points to oneself<--* i duno just disappointing. where were you everyone??? (im assuming bad time of year uni exams and the likes)
moving on, i had bursts of ahh this is great to ahhh lets sit down:P but yeah still enjoyed the nite as a whole


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-09-2003 13:27:

quote:
Originally posted by muli
i would consider him FAR from the likes of Armin, Ferry & Tiesto.


Yeh his Dj skills might be a bit from these people, but his production skills...now thats a different story.

His productions skills is what i admire the most.


Posted by djway on Nov-09-2003 13:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
Yeh his Dj skills might be a bit from these people, but his production skills...now thats a different story.

His productions skills is what i admire the most.


quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
Sorry to disappoint you but Matt Darey was perfect all round, mixing, track selection and crowd control...

Same par quality with Armin...better even.




--djway


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-09-2003 13:37:

LOL well i gotta defend him...

I for one like his Dj skills...but when everyone says different what can be done.

BUT then it comes down to the situation of production skills...sorry but Darey is better IMO (no biasness included, seriously )


Posted by -=M=- on Nov-09-2003 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
No, he played Nocturnal Delight instead

btw it was great to meet the TAs (well some) finally


ok, ok, ok, you're right... it's nocturnal delight (despite my filename and the guy on IDT radio :/)

hehehe i emailed him suggesting the new name


Posted by Michael on Nov-09-2003 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by muli

Anyone can get up there and bang out 2 hours of trance classics from 99 especially on CD!

muli


Dude, it's HARDER to mix on cd than vinyl!! I find with vinyl no problems, but with cdj's I sometimes struggle a bit..


Posted by tubby on Nov-09-2003 22:34:

despite being a big fan of mr darey's work, fridays performance made me think he may be past his prime. The set had no flow at all, and going all sublime in the middle really killed things. the mixing was at best average, he was depending on anthmes to make things happen.
the sound sucked big time, it cannot be that hard to retune a system to a pretty standard mixer for the odd change. often you couldn't even make out the kicks from the rumbling of the distorted bass.


Posted by djway on Nov-09-2003 23:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael
Dude, it's HARDER to mix on cd than vinyl!! I find with vinyl no problems, but with cdj's I sometimes struggle a bit..


Please explain. Digital doesn't wobble like 1200's (or analogue) decks do, which makes them a hell of a lot easier to use. Add to that, when touching up with the pitch fader, you can SEE where u were and where u're going with a digital reprisentation.

--djway


Posted by muli on Nov-10-2003 00:35:

When i said its easy to get up there and mix 99 anthems from CD, i meant its easy to get them on CD, any one can get them off the net.

And well yea he has some good productions, especially stuff like Li Kwan, but i dont like his vocal trance at all, not my kind of trance. But yes he is definatley a talented producer, but as a DJ i wouldnt rank him anywhere near Armin etc...


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-10-2003 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by muli
but i dont like his vocal trance at all


You don't like Beautiful, Gamemaster, Angel etc?????



Now with the CDJ Vs Vinyl, i also find CDJ harder, vinyl is more real and you have a more direct control over it which makes it a whole lot easier...BUT in real sense it's really a sense of which suits you best.


Posted by waXology on Nov-10-2003 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
You don't like Beautiful, Gamemaster, Angel etc?????



Now with the CDJ Vs Vinyl, i also find CDJ harder, vinyl is more real and you have a more direct control over it which makes it a whole lot easier...BUT in real sense it's really a sense of which suits you best.



i dont see a big difference with cdj or vinyl really.

just have to get used to the sensitivity of the jog on the cdj's and the pitch control... but once you have had a few goes its quite easy.

now going from say a cdj 100 to a cdj 1000 is different... they are both really different sensitivty wise.


Posted by muli on Nov-10-2003 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
You don't like Beautiful, Gamemaster, Angel etc?????



Now with the CDJ Vs Vinyl, i also find CDJ harder, vinyl is more real and you have a more direct control over it which makes it a whole lot easier...BUT in real sense it's really a sense of which suits you best.


game master is different, its not a true vocal trance track. I love that track, the others i find cheesey, but thats just my opinion


Well at the moment i find CDJs hard to use, but thats cause i dont really have access to use one (hopefully changing soon!!) but from people who use both they say CD is a bit easier once you get used to it cause u dont have to keep touching up like you do on turntables because turntables flutter etc.... espcially old ones


Posted by Mangler on Nov-10-2003 05:56:

in melb's i thought darey was excellent. sure he played a lot of anthems, but he played what he is famous for & what people expected from him. his mixing was very good.


Posted by djway on Nov-10-2003 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by waXology
now going from say a cdj 100 to a cdj 1000 is different... they are both really different sensitivty wise.


You can change the sensitivity of hte CDJ1000, so it acts like the 100, Only figured that out the other week, lol

Mangler: If Darey had played a set like Armin, I'd of been disapointed. I'm glad he played the way he did

--djway


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-10-2003 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by djway
If Darey had played a set like Armin, I'd of been disapointed. I'm glad he played the way he did


that doesn't even make sense


Posted by Mangler on Nov-10-2003 06:08:

makes perfect sense.. as in.. if he was playing all the latest stuff like on asot it wouldnt be what you expect, nor what you'd want to hear, from Darey .. dummy!


Posted by bassaholix on Nov-10-2003 06:13:

quote:
Originally posted by muli
When i said its easy to get up there and mix 99 anthems from CD, i meant its easy to get them on CD, any one can get them off the net.


So it was him downloading off my Kazza on Thurzday nite?

I knew it.. lol should have cancelled on him @ 99% on each anthem.. heheh


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