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Originally posted by igottaknow 1st of all don't move this thread to the chillout room! That's the quickest way to kill an intelligent discussion.

Exactly my thoughts. I haven't checked yet, but I hope you haven't moved it to the Chillout Room.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy oh ya another piece of advice..if u start taklking to some girl in a club and she asks if u want to go for a drink say no....i watch many a person fall for this trick..they go buy the girl a drink and before they have time to turn around and say cheers the girl is gone with her drink...ive fallen for this once luckily im a vengeful mother****** and i saw the same girl later on in the night told her to come for another drink ordered it got the drinks and said "this ones on you thnx." and took off

LOL!!!
best advice in this whole thread!

I also find it kinda funny he's asking for advice on girls here in the T.O forum, the sausage fest capital of TA. j/k

I'd like to give some advice but frankly I could use some myself. BTW you sound like a nice guy KawalaBear, don't know if you're new to Toronto or not but TRUST ME , gurls here don't like nice guys. You have to be an ass.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy that is right...look for chances and dont think of it as trying to pick up a girl when u take the chance just see it as being a nice person....if u hit it off great if u dont at least u met someone new and u looked like a good person...for example i go to nightschool at humber college i was walking to go outside for a smoke and this cute girl came up to me asking where The M part of the building was...i had no idea where it was but i helped her out anyways..i grabbed a janitor and asked him where it was and he told me so i turned around told her and kept talking to her...i didnt get her number i didnt bother asking for it and im not sure if she was intrested or not...didnt really matter..its just being social...im sure if it was the right girl something would have happened..i just see it as next time she sees me around im sure she'll remember me and think "hes a really cool guy"

Fuck man! It's like you are me! Last year I did the exact same thing,
went to night-school, finishing up some science classes.
I'll tell ya! The class was crowded with different people, it was like a social-jungle in this class. Everyone had their story, and of course, the chicks were sweet! I even had a relationship with one of them!
After the whole relationship went to hell, I started hanging out with some of the other chicks in my class, you know just chatting with them in the cafeteria and stuff. Eventually I was invited to a party with them... Next thing I know, I'm sleeping with one of her friends, and went on a vacation to Ecuador together with this friend.

Nightschool, huh. It's like a miracle.
And I can't wait to begin in college. In january it's finally my turn!


Oh yeah, I forgot:
You have to think like a sleazy motherfu*ker.
[b]Nice guys finish last [b]

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Originally posted by KawalaBear where do I start? I'm sure there was something like this post in the past but here it is anyways, if your a guy like me you will understand what I mean, if your a girl please inform us guys how to go about this Okay this might seem lame to some of you but I don�t give a damn cause I am confused as are many other guys out there. Here it goes. Yes I am single as are many out there, now to get to the point is how on earth one like myself is or another single Girl suppose to meet? I go to clubs from time to time, movies, parks, and other social area's where people hang out talk etc.., so I got the general idea where to meet "the person" I am not a total nerd, nor I am a super stud, I consider myself a regular Joe if you will.. well sort of. Anyways how would you go about knowing how a girl likes you if you at a club or anywhere else for that matter? When your at a club, rave or party the music is too freakin loud to talk to anyone most of the time. But that�s not the main problem the main problem for me is to distinguish if the girl is "Attracted" to you or wants to talk to you. Is there some sort of hidden sign or signal? Girls in general are nice to you even if they don�t know you I notice this because I see many people (young women) around me where I currently work. If you get past all that lets say you notice she likes you, who should go over and introduce them self�s? The Male? Or the Female? I'm sure many of the girls out there say it�s the Male that should approach? But please if you want us to approach give us a damn signal or something ?! We are simple minded male that do not have the decoder that young women have to understand what is going on in your minds. And finally when you meet this girl lets say at a party or else where and you start talking in a group or 1 on 1, how do you know if your just talking friend on friend or the girl wants more than to be just a friend? Here is a picture of me just for the hell of it, comments, insults etc.. are welcome but I'll probably ignore the insults . So that�s my confusion in a nut-shell im sure there�s more that I can�t think of, so if I missed out a problem that some of you have that is not shown in this thread please Post it. All help appreciated.

...holding back....uuugghhhhh.....must insult kyle....uuughhhhh....oooohhh noooo...i yhink im getting an ulcer.....must insult must insult

ok man, as ive mentioned before, i run a loser school for people just like you. I help people like you learn how to talk to women, approach them, get even with them for giving you awful head, etc...

the fees are on a case by case basis. pm me for more info.

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Originally posted by halo20 I COULD WRITE A BOOK

lol, Couldn't we all?


Well, there have been numerous facets to this issue presented so far, and they pretty much all hold good points to be taken into consideration.

There are some things with which I do not agree...

a) Don't talk to a girl inside a club. - Unless you are the grimey kind of guy that makes it foolishly obvious that you're only out for one thing, then talk to the girl! Believe it or not, (and even our own RJ can attest to this, lol), there are in fact girls out there who can appreciate good conversation even if it's in a lounge or a club (perhaps not as much in the latter one). It sounds stupid to some, but to each his/her own. I've had in-depth business and politics related conversations, and even other random ones like discussing the pro's and con's to various motorcycle models with guys at parties (regardless of what the venue was). I know that this doesn't apply to every party-going female, but you'll never know what can happen unless you try. (And in no way am I attacking you, Aaron. )

Just something I thought I could relate to the aformentioned point, since many girls don't care if you're the hottest thing in the room (it was already mentioned in this thread), wouldn't you think it would be to your advantage to present something to her other than your looks? I've never bought the whole "I don't care about looks thing" because it does matter within the whole 'mate selection' process, but some people just don't realize that it can be more of a subconscious motive. To be honest though, I think you can be a good-looking, well-presented male within a club and still be taken seriously by a female. (See: attitude )

b) You have to be an asshole. - Okay, I'm not going to go with the usual "but we like kind, sweet, sensitive guys" stuff that we always ear. See, girls do want that, but it's not supposed to be a 24/7 obvious act. Girls are frightened away by that. We do want someone who likes to have fun, but not necessarily someone whose idea of fun is throwing beer bottles at cars from a bridge or something to that effect. Prove that you can be crazy and enjoy life, without being a tool. I can imagine how challenging it must be (no, I'm not being sarcastic), but it's all a matter of striking that balance between the nice guy and badass attributes, really.


Yes, we're in broken record mode by now, but it's true: Don't look. Just chill. Have fun. Meet people. The more you look, the less likely you are to find what you really want, and should you try it out with whatever it is you've found, I think the less likely you are to be truly happy with it. Think of it like buying a car, perhaps. If you've suddenly found yourself in need of a car, chances are you're not going to run out to the dingiest car dealership down the street from you and grab whatever won't clear out your bank account and still runs. Otherwise, yeah you've finally got that car you were on a mad hunt for, but are you really happy now that it's accumulated double it's actual value in repair bills? (Can you tell that I just got out of a sales seminar? Hah.)

When it comes to clubs, bars, lounges, whatever, if you see a girl you think you fancy - be normal. Smile, be genuine, and strike up whatever random conversation you can think of, should you be so inclined to do so.


And those were my elongated 2 cents.

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Originally posted by 'mju:zik ...holding back....uuugghhhhh.....must insult kyle....uuughhhhh....oooohhh noooo...i yhink im getting an ulcer.....must insult must insult ok man, as ive mentioned before, i run a loser school for people just like you. I help people like you learn how to talk to women, approach them, get even with them for giving you awful head, etc... the fees are on a case by case basis. pm me for more info.

you have got to be kidding me! your social skills are on the same level as a fishstick!

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Originally posted by DigiNut How so? Didn't I say that it's the sleazebags in the clubs that ruin it for the rest of us? I guess I am bitter against the sleazebags, yes. People who run around clubs trying to rape all the girls should be pistol-whipped.

and i proclaim ye the online defender of women against the sleazebag men ..

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Originally posted by wienerschnitzel you have got to be kidding me! your social skills are on the same level as a fishstick!

how would you know? i never wanted to pick you up

anyways so thats all the info i can give u...well theres a shit more but it all has to do with details....my problem is not the approach or the talking or anything..its find the right one..every single girl i meet theres something wrong with them....i dunno could be me but who cares i dont meet girls looking for a relationship thats kinda what im not looking for...i just love the game

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Originally posted by wienerschnitzel you have got to be kidding me! your social skills are on the same level as a fishstick!

a fried fishstick, if you please.



anyway, i finally had the time to read through the whole thread and to be honest, i have nothing to add... except... if you don't come to chillout room, chillout room comes to yoU!!



and: the time will come. life is full of surprises, go out have fun, be yourself, and don't try to force anything, when the time is right your questions will be answered (ugh, going off on a matrix tangent there....)

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Originally posted by dEsidEL soooooo .. bitter Aaron ..

He's not bitter, he's being realistic. Everything he said is bang-on for the most part!

Thankfully someone realizes that women who seem "cold" in clubs and bars are not bitches, but rather just being on the defense against random creeps.

It's sad - there are a whole lot of good guys out there in the scene, but there have been so many more who, by being an asshole, have ruined the credibility for every man trying to approach a woman.

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Originally posted by Dr. Z #1: Get out of your pants.

Don't let the meat stick think for you.

maybe thats just u....i dunno not alot of girls act that way with me...the ones that due usually get a good ol fuck you

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy maybe thats just u....i dunno not alot of girls act that way with me...the ones that due usually get a good ol fuck you

you sound like one of the guys that has ruined the reputation of all the nice guys out there.

Ok i just want to say one thing. I'm not gay or anything, but you look like Leonardo Decaprio. Pretty good lookin' if you ask me.

You should have no problems meetin' women. Which brings me back to my original point. It sounds like you're a decent guy, that's the problem

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Originally posted by 'mju:zik how would you know? i never wanted to pick you up

true, im probably not your type. I made that assumption based on your "most of you are dorks" thread, along with some other quality posts you have made.

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Originally posted by Skipper you sound like one of the guys that has ruined the reputation of all the nice guys out there.

actually im not...but if a girl is going to act like a bitch im not just gonna turn away with my head in between my legs and pout...im gonna rip at them right back and shiw them who wears the pants...

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy actually im not...but if a girl is going to act like a bitch im not just gonna turn away with my head in between my legs and pout...im gonna rip at them right back and shiw them who wears the pants...

now i know why girls cary pepper spray (or should i say vivid repellent)

Wait, Vivid is right. Just because she is a girl means she can get away with whatever she wants? (ie being snobbish and suckering the guy into buying her booze and using him? Uh NO). I mean it's either you stand up for yourself and have some self respect when a woman, or anyone tries to use you, or you just stand there and let them abuse the fact that you're a nice person. It's like some vicous cycle. The man treats the woman like crap who in turn gets all snobbish and then decides to use all other guys at a club for her own uses. Then those guys won't stand for it and tell the girl where to go and end up looking like asses? Bahh. I'm confused enough over all this...I figure I just party and enjoy life and stuff will fall into place whenver.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Wait, Vivid is right. Just because she is a girl means she can get away with whatever she wants? (ie being snobbish and suckering the guy into buying her booze and using him? Uh NO). I mean it's either you stand up for yourself and have some self respect when a woman, or anyone tries to use you, or you just stand there and let them abuse the fact that you're a nice person. It's like some vicous cycle. The man treats the woman like crap who in turn gets all snobbish and then decides to use all other guys at a club for her own uses. Then those guys won't stand for it and tell the girl where to go and end up looking like asses? Bahh. I'm confused enough over all this...I figure I just party and enjoy life and stuff will fall into place whenver.

Basically, Chris, what goes around comes around, as Vivid illustrated earlier.

haha so much fuss over such a simple thing..

it's all just a game..

*stands up and clears my throat*

My name is Pete and I'm a Nice Guy

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Originally posted by wienerschnitzel true, im probably not your type. I made that assumption based on your "most of you are dorks" thread, along with some other quality posts you have made.

actually i just like the ganja is that such a crime?

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Originally posted by brunette it's all just a game..

True. A game I refuse to play.

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Originally posted by brunette haha so much fuss over such a simple thing.. it's all just a game..

according to many posters, games are morally wrong and just for sick bastards and bitches.

(not my words though, I agree it's a game, can't hurt to explain the rules however )

Chris, my man, what you're hoping for is not going to happen... to play or not to play isn't a choice that you have to make. You're already in it!

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